What Champions has God Tier potential if they get a substantial value buff?

I'm talking about champs who have good kits and abilities but severely lack numerical output. One that comes to mind would be Heimdall or the Champion.

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The_HoTU

mangog

JhonST33

Mephisto, if he drains power on every sp 3, he will be great. Also if he increase his damage base ratting on each persistent charge it will be cool.

Erosenseiog

Ghost Rider.

raviXsharma

Warlock + slight attack value refinement = Summoner go boom boom!

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Draconic_12

Silver surfer

ESF

I also think that Mr Sinister has a good base kit that could be improved with higher numbers

I really do love the kit, but what makes him interesting is also his weakness, because you need at least three fights to see benefits from the kit, but getting those three wins is rough

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Mysterio

Mr Sinister
Man Thing
Mysterio
Emma frost
Gladiator hulk
Proxima

To name a few. This doesn’t mean any of these champions are necessarily bad or useless, but I think they’ve all got promising kits that could be tweaked with some number changes

Pleasssse Kabam

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H3t3r

Honestly I think korg or iceman

TrashyPanda

Define 'value buff'.

I originally thought value buff meant number tweaking, but Kabam value buff seems to include everything up to new signatures.

Avengers320

Define 'value buff'.

I originally thought value buff meant number tweaking, but Kabam value buff seems to include everything up to new signatures.

as in what champs have a good kit and utility on paper, but is held back by low damage or defence

TrashyPanda

Depends on God Tier as well I guess, but I'll go with somewhat easy ones:

Cull: High Block Prof (combo-chainable heavies would be better, as parry-heavy is becoming less viable)

Namor: Lower his Bleed chance

Doctopus: Increase the potency and duration of his effects

Luke Cage: Decrease Indestructible cool down (by half, at least), and guarantee an Exhaustion every hit. Lol.

Not saying these need it, but I don't consider them proper Gods. Anymore, at least.

BuggyDClown

Dormammu, Rouge , Ghost rider

Yodabolt21

A lot have already been said, but the obvious ones to me are:
Dormammu
Rogue
Nebula

None of them really “need” it, but slight changes to buff duration or a damage increase would make all 3 so much more useable.

JuggerNot

Mr Sinister
Man Thing
Mysterio
Emma frost
Gladiator hulk
Proxima

To name a few. This doesn’t mean any of these champions are necessarily bad or useless, but I think they’ve all got promising kits that could be tweaked with some number changes
Trust me, Emma doesn’t need a buff whatsoever. Already top 6/7 mutant
I'm sorry, Emma a top 7 mutant?? She's good but she cannot compete with the likes of Apocalypses, Magneto, Omega Red, Archangel, Colossus, Sunspot, Namor, Professor X, Stryfe... the list goes on. She is good but Mutant is way too overpowered
Nah she’s definitely better than sunspot, Namor and Stryfe

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UnidentifiedCreature

Invisible Woman. Just give her some utility and she'll be good to go.

A few others that come to mind are:
Annihilus
Red Skull
Vision (OG and AOU)
Thor (OG and Ragnarok)
Sentry
Psycho Man
Phoenix
Nova

Kerneas

I always think about Dormammu whenever there is a thread like this.

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Ghostboytjie

*cough* Cosmic Ghost Rider could benefit from some increased damage *cough*

Holros

Unpopular opinion but Karnak would be really nice with a nice update, his kit is nice just lacking numbers

Qfury

Green Goblin
Black Bolt
Storm

All lower mid tier, but some attack/crit boosts could make them relevant again(?).

Dr. Zola

Black bolt with hitmonkey and Medusa is crazy good.

Polygon

The real answer here is Morningstar. A fully ramped MS is insane, the problem is the rampup. If this was more user friendly, she would easily jump to a top 2 mystic.

Mauled

My top 5 to just tune up/make more user friendly would be:

Proxima - missions in any order and a bit more block proficiency ideally some form of nullify resistance would be nice because if she loses a prowess/fury her damage is hideous.

VtD - change his buff cycle so if you finish a combo on a medium you get an offensive buff (fury/precision), light = defensive (armour up, perfect block), heavy = utility (regen, power gain). I think this would make his ramp up so much less painless as I think the main reason he’s not used regularly is because that first fight ends up taking 10 minutes while you continuously roll the dice.

Gulk - just needs more damage. His face me damage output should be his standard damage level and it still wouldn’t be that impressive.

Nebula - far higher block proficiency and a way to not release shock charges prematurely, e.g. release on a light ending combo and then combo into sp1/2

Phoenix - damage increase, her incinerates should actually do more than me waving a lighter at somebody and she should be incinerate immune in the way Surfer is so it can feed her if you run willpower.

Out of all of these Proxima probably needs the least but she’s my favourite champion and I think that tiny tweak would make her perfect.

Berjibs

@Mauled while I agree on vtd the heavy choosing a buff type doesn’t work as it also banks the buff?

Maybe a Shang chi style where MM, MLM, MLLM combos are the trigger for buff type changing works better. That way your normal MLLLM or MLLL type combos and heavies are unaffected.

Mauled

@Mauled while I agree on vtd the heavy choosing a buff type doesn’t work as it also banks the buff?

Maybe a Shang chi style where MM, MLM, MLLM combos are the trigger for buff type changing works better. That way your normal MLLLM or MLLL type combos and heavies are unaffected.

Yeah, I had a brain fart there lol. You'd think that having an R2 VtD would make me remember this..

The main thing is that the player needs a bit more control of how to get the buffs, even something like Surfer where it cycles through and you can choose to activate them would be great.

DawsMan

Mr Sinister
Man Thing
Mysterio
Emma frost
Gladiator hulk
Proxima

To name a few. This doesn’t mean any of these champions are necessarily bad or useless, but I think they’ve all got promising kits that could be tweaked with some number changes
Trust me, Emma doesn’t need a buff whatsoever. Already top 6/7 mutant
I'm sorry, Emma a top 7 mutant?? She's good but she cannot compete with the likes of Apocalypses, Magneto, Omega Red, Archangel, Colossus, Sunspot, Namor, Professor X, Stryfe... the list goes on. She is good but Mutant is way too overpowered
Nah she’s definitely better than sunspot, Namor and Stryfe

I don't know a lot about Stryfe but he can do some good damage and has really good utility. I'd take him over Emma any day. Saying that she's better than Namor is bobblesquat. Namor is an amazing champion with lots of damage, the thing that makes him better than Emma is that sig 200. You could make a case for Emma over sunspot but he has such good blocks, amazing damage, he can do some stuff. I've seen him brought into certain lanes in Act7 and do cool things. Same with namor and a bit of stryfe. Emma though? Haven't seen her since people were doing some Act 6. Even then she was few and far between.

Colonaut123

Mordo. Although it would be more than pure values. But he has some interesting things in his kit.