I don't really see too much of an issue here. These fights aren't an easier source of t5cc fragments than other content available to Cavs, save for stuff like Abyss. It is amount-wise, but not skill-wise. If you can consistently beat the bosses, you can clear the variants, meaning you still have the skills to earn t5cc the "normal way" anyway. I guess I could agree that maybe the fourth milestone would have been a better cut-off point for cavs, but it's not a hill I'm willing to die on. If cav players can beat all of these bosses and the Grandmaster, I have absolutely no problem with them becoming TB.
With that being said, I think it could be a good thing to not be able to r3 6* champions until after they've beaten the Grandmaster. I have absolutely no problems with cavs having increased avenues of earning t5cc but actually r3'ing champs should be an Act 6 Completion privilege, I feel.
I grew an extra hair on my chest, but lost a few on my head during that fight, lol.
So far, there have only been a few counters for each fight (within reason). The skill level required to use some of these counters is most certainly worth the rewards IMO. And so what if some Cav players get 50% of the t5cc. The other 50% is RNG and will still take some time to accomplish. On my alt account, which is currently at 6.3.3, isn’t even to 20% of a t5cc yet because I don’t explore Cav difficulty. I will probably end up getting 50% of selectors (I didn’t have a DarkHawk counter, so 7 points is my cap). By the time I get around to completing Act 6, it will be around October I think and I’m hoping I’ll hit TB before Xmas, but the RNG aspect may hold that account back a bit.
Having said all that, yeah theoretically anyone can do these fights with revives and units, but if the goal is getting players to advance, then this event makes perfect sense!
It seems to me that whatever Kabam does, its never good enough one way or the other. Personally I think this is the best event we have had by far. Majority of the players can participate, no energy needed, one week to try the fights and practice. Challenge is decent and what is even better, you can tweak it for yourself if you think its too easy or too hard. Too hard? Farm some revives, use boosts and practice til you get it done, there's time. Too easy? You have objectives. Still too easy? You can do it like MSD with 3 stars and flex.
As OP said, rewards are awesome and I for one appreciate this event a lot. All things considered I really don't know how could they make it any better and I am not bothered by the fact that cavalier players will get some nice rewards out of it too. Good for them.
Absolutely agree to you.. Kabam as clearly mentioned it that the event is for cavalier and higher title holder's... Being a TB I am glad that all the cavalier title holder will have an opportunity to r3 at least a Champ leaving them with just GM 6.4.6 To clear... Given them an opportunity to earn t5cc 25% class selector depending on points which is Very rare in the current game scenario... Kabam as done absolutely fantastic in this event in regards to difficulty and Rewards as well as solo objectives... People who spend or have extreme high skills or huge roster will complain about everything in the game.... If quest are easy why easy.. if quest are very hard then rewards are not worth it.... something or the other keeps coming up .... These people need to understand that not everyone is skilled enough or has a huge roster to beat SOP every week .. so let's enjoy the game and let everyone enjoy it rather then baby cry and complain why so easy or why so much rewards bla bla bla.... Kabam has done well overall...
As a thronebreaker player I see nothing wrong with this event benefiting both cav and tb players. They already capped cav player rewards via objectives availability and if the rewards are their final push towards getting a R3 I'm happy for them. Also taking into account this is a multimonth event with possibly some roster rankup commitments due to objective tags, there is nothing to complain about better rewards. Better reward payout is a pro-player move and we should appreciate it.
It seems to me that whatever Kabam does, its never good enough one way or the other. Personally I think this is the best event we have had by far. Majority of the players can participate, no energy needed, one week to try the fights and practice. Challenge is decent and what is even better, you can tweak it for yourself if you think its too easy or too hard. Too hard? Farm some revives, use boosts and practice til you get it done, there's time. Too easy? You have objectives. Still too easy? You can do it like MSD with 3 stars and flex.
As OP said, rewards are awesome and I for one appreciate this event a lot. All things considered I really don't know how could they make it any better and I am not bothered by the fact that cavalier players will get some nice rewards out of it too. Good for them.
1000% agree with this.
Only 1 fight to do, no energy cost, 1 week to practice and nodes are nice. Fight aren't easy, it look easy as it is just 1 fight.
I love this event, finally I enjoy something without throwing my phone to the wall. It is helping me getting better against annoying champs and nodes as it is energy free and only 1 fight. I got so much better thanks to SOP.
I wish they add something similar as permanent content for training purposes.
Thanks Kabam and please don't listen to OP because no matter what you do the flexer like him will say it's easy.
OP is a cav and isn't a flexer. Honestly, these types of posts just show how selfish the community is and how reading comprehension doesn't exist. Read and understand other people's points before making posts such as these.
At the beginning of the event I thought asking for at least 5 points would be too much. And I’ve done all 7 fights till now as a cav. This really is too easy, far from how they described the fights. The Rogue fight was the perfect level for how they described they fight. Not like Mr Sinister which is restricted to only few champs, and definitely not like the past 4 weeks where I soloed each of them or took a maximum of only 1 revive.
I love SoP so far, I think it’s been a wonderful event, and the rewards are awesome.
A bit too awesome at the moment
As of right now any cav players with mediocre skills or some unitd, even ones on 6.2, are going to receive 50% t5cc in selectors at the end. If the next 2 fights are close to the same difficulty, that will be 75% t5cc.
We are going to be having cav players working through 6.2 and beyond with a r3 6*, which are usually so difficult to obtain that it’s quickest to get abyss done. Nearly every cav player that has 6.4 done is guaranteed tb, and anyone before that is getting tb right with 6.4 completion.
Now, this sounds great for cavs, but in all reality it’s going to make late game progression even easier, which means that the next time we get hard content, there’ll be a lot more players who haven’t improved their skills enough and were carried through act 6 with a r3.
Tb is also going to no longer be a very rare title, because most cavs are going to be getting it after SoP.
There’s not really a solution other than a nerf, which would be a HORRIBLE decision, so there’s not really any options left here.
I just wanted to do a quick explanation of why I think content like this needs either higher difficulty by a lot or less rewards, because it’s bad for the game as a whole.
4-5 year veterans have been feeling that way since 3 years ago…
It seems to me that whatever Kabam does, its never good enough one way or the other. Personally I think this is the best event we have had by far. Majority of the players can participate, no energy needed, one week to try the fights and practice. Challenge is decent and what is even better, you can tweak it for yourself if you think its too easy or too hard. Too hard? Farm some revives, use boosts and practice til you get it done, there's time. Too easy? You have objectives. Still too easy? You can do it like MSD with 3 stars and flex.
As OP said, rewards are awesome and I for one appreciate this event a lot. All things considered I really don't know how could they make it any better and I am not bothered by the fact that cavalier players will get some nice rewards out of it too. Good for them.
1000% agree with this.
Only 1 fight to do, no energy cost, 1 week to practice and nodes are nice. Fight aren't easy, it look easy as it is just 1 fight.
I love this event, finally I enjoy something without throwing my phone to the wall. It is helping me getting better against annoying champs and nodes as it is energy free and only 1 fight. I got so much better thanks to SOP.
I wish they add something similar as permanent content for training purposes.
Thanks Kabam and please don't listen to OP because no matter what you do the flexer like him will say it's easy.
What? I'm cav, with mediocre skills at best. It's just too easy. I had so much more difficulty with literally variants, because those I couldn't solo after 2 tries. The rewards are just way too insane for the difficulty
At the beginning of the event I thought asking for at least 5 points would be too much. And I’ve done all 7 fights till now as a cav. This really is too easy, far from how they described the fights. The Rogue fight was the perfect level for how they described they fight. Not like Mr Sinister which is restricted to only few champs, and definitely not like the past 4 weeks where I soloed each of them or took a maximum of only 1 revive.
I wasn't even expecting to beat a single fight with how they talked it up as making even people who breezed through abyss suffer.
Definitely not 7 and definitely not for the rewards given lol
At the beginning of the event I thought asking for at least 5 points would be too much. And I’ve done all 7 fights till now as a cav. This really is too easy, far from how they described the fights. The Rogue fight was the perfect level for how they described they fight. Not like Mr Sinister which is restricted to only few champs, and definitely not like the past 4 weeks where I soloed each of them or took a maximum of only 1 revive.
I wasn't even expecting to beat a single fight with how they talked it up as making even people who breezed through abyss suffer.
Definitely not 7 and definitely not for the rewards given lol
Exactly. When the rogue fight came out, I thought I would get only 2 points, 3 at best. When Mysterio came out and I used all my available units to beat his, which was about 400, I thought I’m just gonna settle for 3. Then they decided to make the rest of fights around uncollected level, when they literally said the first 3 were “warm up” fights. And I’ve used a total of 2 revives since week 4 was released. Heck, I’ve died more times against Hercules in the SQ than I have the past 4 SoP weeks totally. And imma be honest, my skill is less than average for a cav player. So imagine how Swedeah, MSD, Bero Man and all the other skilled players are feeling. Maybe the boss rush might finally bring back something challenging to them, because SoP definitely wasn’t.
Easy for you, difficult for others ^_^ I'm TB and still found these fights to be really really difficult (only exception was Darkhawk vs. red mags), pushing my skills to a point that i thought it couldn't be possible ^_^ So i dsagree with you, the effort required to get those rewards is more then enough to justify them in my opinion ^_^
Easy for you, difficult for others ^_^ I'm TB and still found these fights to be really really difficult (only exception was Darkhawk vs. red mags), pushing my skills to a point that i thought it couldn't be possible ^_^ So i dsagree with you, the effort required to get those rewards is more then enough to justify them in my opinion ^_^
It seems to me that whatever Kabam does, its never good enough one way or the other. Personally I think this is the best event we have had by far. Majority of the players can participate, no energy needed, one week to try the fights and practice. Challenge is decent and what is even better, you can tweak it for yourself if you think its too easy or too hard. Too hard? Farm some revives, use boosts and practice til you get it done, there's time. Too easy? You have objectives. Still too easy? You can do it like MSD with 3 stars and flex.
As OP said, rewards are awesome and I for one appreciate this event a lot. All things considered I really don't know how could they make it any better and I am not bothered by the fact that cavalier players will get some nice rewards out of it too. Good for them.
1000% agree with this.
Only 1 fight to do, no energy cost, 1 week to practice and nodes are nice. Fight aren't easy, it look easy as it is just 1 fight.
I love this event, finally I enjoy something without throwing my phone to the wall. It is helping me getting better against annoying champs and nodes as it is energy free and only 1 fight. I got so much better thanks to SOP.
I wish they add something similar as permanent content for training purposes.
Thanks Kabam and please don't listen to OP because no matter what you do the flexer like him will say it's easy.
OP is a cav and isn't a flexer. Honestly, these types of posts just show how selfish the community is and how reading comprehension doesn't exist. Read and understand other people's points before making posts such as these.
People have an alarming habit of reading what people say and deciding, “no, I know better why you have this opinion/agenda”
@Crcrcrc is telling you why he thinks what he thinks. And people saying, nope, I think it’s more likely he was jealous, or flexing, or a spurned Thronebreaker. Here’s an idea, why don’t you read why OP is saying the things he’s saying and try and consider that his opinion may come from a position of wanting the best future for the game, rather than projecting your petty reasons onto him.
@ChaosMax1012 Venom fought with a 6* R1 spider-gwen was probably the hardest fight for me, being able to fully dex Venom's SP2 four times in a row was something that i didn't know i was able to do *_* All other fights weren't that much exhausting but they were equally difficult ^_^
I love SoP so far, I think it’s been a wonderful event, and the rewards are awesome.
A bit too awesome at the moment
As of right now any cav players with mediocre skills or some unitd, even ones on 6.2, are going to receive 50% t5cc in selectors at the end. If the next 2 fights are close to the same difficulty, that will be 75% t5cc.
We are going to be having cav players working through 6.2 and beyond with a r3 6*, which are usually so difficult to obtain that it’s quickest to get abyss done. Nearly every cav player that has 6.4 done is guaranteed tb, and anyone before that is getting tb right with 6.4 completion.
Now, this sounds great for cavs, but in all reality it’s going to make late game progression even easier, which means that the next time we get hard content, there’ll be a lot more players who haven’t improved their skills enough and were carried through act 6 with a r3.
Tb is also going to no longer be a very rare title, because most cavs are going to be getting it after SoP.
There’s not really a solution other than a nerf, which would be a HORRIBLE decision, so there’s not really any options left here.
I just wanted to do a quick explanation of why I think content like this needs either higher difficulty by a lot or less rewards, because it’s bad for the game as a whole.
You got it all wrong.
What is bad for the game? If no one is spending money, because then the game will be cancelled. So the developers need to ensure that people keep playing and some of those people keep spending.
How do you make people keep playing (and thus spending)? By dropping exciting new content. Should the content be extremely hard so that only a fraction can enjoy it? Well. SOP is only for TB and Cav. So you can point out that UC and below cannot even play it - from the developers perspective, that means they want UC and below to become at least cav.
For cavs, the rewards are limited. So they might wanna be TB. Is it bad for the game if more people are TB? Not really, as long as you keep 'em busy. TBs have their own goals to achieve and even though some fights are definitely not painful (as in summer of pain) but rather easy for developed rosters, I guess TBs are having fun using different champs.
Do you think many TBs will leave the game because SOP is too easy for Cavs? Or does the event rather prevent Cavs and some TBs from quitting because of boredom - and thus ensure a certain cash flow?
I might be late to the party but I got lost trying to figure out what the exact problem is? So we are supposed to be mad that others will be able to progress?
Are we supposed to be mad that “progression” is “easier?”
Are we supposed to just be mad? (Insert grrrr)
Y’all aren’t exhausted? How is it possible to find something negative in everything? I could wake up tomorrow and EVERYBODY is Thronebreaker. How’s that impact me personally? Not an ounce. I’ll still be over here, secretly hoping Winter Solider will get buffed, and Ebony Maw will one day be feared.
But then again I don’t play this game to compete with anybody else. I don’t do AW. I don’t talk to alliance mates, I don’t rush to have the highest prestige…..I jump on every night to relax, grind potions, do event quests, and play around with the random champs that aren’t actually good but look cool.
That has nothing to do with anybody else. Besides, you can put the highest ranked highest powered champs in the hands of an average player and they will still get clapped. (As I cringe every time I try to play the Abyss. Keyword try)
Am thronebreaker but I could care less if cav players are getting almost the same rewards as me, I play for myself and try not to look at other people progression. This is not a 5v5 moba game where competition is mandatory.
Am thronebreaker but I could care less if cav players are getting almost the same rewards as me, I play for myself and try not to look at other people progression. This is not a 5v5 moba game where competition is mandatory.
I might be late to the party but I got lost trying to figure out what the exact problem is? So we are supposed to be mad that others will be able to progress?
Are we supposed to be mad that “progression” is “easier?”
Are we supposed to just be mad? (Insert grrrr)
Y’all aren’t exhausted? How is it possible to find something negative in everything? I could wake up tomorrow and EVERYBODY is Thronebreaker. How’s that impact me personally? Not an ounce. I’ll still be over here, secretly hoping Winter Solider will get buffed, and Ebony Maw will one day be feared.
But then again I don’t play this game to compete with anybody else. I don’t do AW. I don’t talk to alliance mates, I don’t rush to have the highest prestige…..I jump on every night to relax, grind potions, do event quests, and play around with the random champs that aren’t actually good but look cool.
That has nothing to do with anybody else. Besides, you can put the highest ranked highest powered champs in the hands of an average player and they will still get clapped. (As I cringe every time I try to play the Abyss. Keyword try)
It’s just that the rewards are too much for the difficulty, and I’m saying this as a cav player. The description of the event made it seem like the abyss was a piece of cake compared to this. But the act 5 collector is harder than each of the fights in the past few weeks. As an average cav player I have completed all the fights till now, which shows how easy SoP actually is.
Am thronebreaker but I could care less if cav players are getting almost the same rewards as me, I play for myself and try not to look at other people progression. This is not a 5v5 moba game where competition is mandatory.
Well said.... Haters will disagree every comments that's mentioned great to see cav getting the t5cc class selector ..
I as a cav have to kind of agree. Hasn’t kabam always been about the game economy? This dosnt seem very economic. If they meant for it to be harder, or for the rewards to be worse, I believe it’s too late for that now. It feels like a tipping of the scales. Half the cavs turn into throne breakers. Perfectly balanced, as alll things should be
Honestly, this week’s SymSup is a great fight. To make it even more challenging, adding “Prey on the Weak” and “Stun Immunity” would have made it pretty nightmarish.
I wonder how well this particular comment will age
Gonna age perfectly. The OP sounds like a petulant child "look I did and now they did and IT'S NOT FAIR!!!". The rewards outweigh the difficulty? Are you insane? Aside from the fact that you need VERY specific counters for the fights (sure the occasional Ronan cheese) you still need skill to make it happen as well as waiting out 90+ day for those rewards. If you told me that ALL the milestones would be given out I'd agree that is insane but hitting your own personal top milestone, or even the top top, is still not game breaking or game changing. Was the article written well? Sure! Maybe? Who cares? The point is silly at best.
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Having said all that, yeah theoretically anyone can do these fights with revives and units, but if the goal is getting players to advance, then this event makes perfect sense!
Definitely not 7 and definitely not for the rewards given lol
@Crcrcrc is telling you why he thinks what he thinks. And people saying, nope, I think it’s more likely he was jealous, or flexing, or a spurned Thronebreaker. Here’s an idea, why don’t you read why OP is saying the things he’s saying and try and consider that his opinion may come from a position of wanting the best future for the game, rather than projecting your petty reasons onto him.
What is bad for the game? If no one is spending money, because then the game will be cancelled. So the developers need to ensure that people keep playing and some of those people keep spending.
How do you make people keep playing (and thus spending)? By dropping exciting new content. Should the content be extremely hard so that only a fraction can enjoy it? Well. SOP is only for TB and Cav. So you can point out that UC and below cannot even play it - from the developers perspective, that means they want UC and below to become at least cav.
For cavs, the rewards are limited. So they might wanna be TB. Is it bad for the game if more people are TB? Not really, as long as you keep 'em busy. TBs have their own goals to achieve and even though some fights are definitely not painful (as in summer of pain) but rather easy for developed rosters, I guess TBs are having fun using different champs.
Do you think many TBs will leave the game because SOP is too easy for Cavs? Or does the event rather prevent Cavs and some TBs from quitting because of boredom - and thus ensure a certain cash flow?
Are we supposed to be mad that “progression” is “easier?”
Are we supposed to just be mad? (Insert grrrr)
Y’all aren’t exhausted? How is it possible to find something negative in everything? I could wake up tomorrow and EVERYBODY is Thronebreaker. How’s that impact me personally? Not an ounce. I’ll still be over here, secretly hoping Winter Solider will get buffed, and Ebony Maw will one day be feared.
But then again I don’t play this game to compete with anybody else. I don’t do AW. I don’t talk to alliance mates, I don’t rush to have the highest prestige…..I jump on every night to relax, grind potions, do event quests, and play around with the random champs that aren’t actually good but look cool.
That has nothing to do with anybody else. Besides, you can put the highest ranked highest powered champs in the hands of an average player and they will still get clapped. (As I cringe every time I try to play the Abyss. Keyword try)
The description of the event made it seem like the abyss was a piece of cake compared to this. But the act 5 collector is harder than each of the fights in the past few weeks. As an average cav player I have completed all the fights till now, which shows how easy SoP actually is.
If you told me that ALL the milestones would be given out I'd agree that is insane but hitting your own personal top milestone, or even the top top, is still not game breaking or game changing.
Was the article written well? Sure! Maybe? Who cares? The point is silly at best.