A Tip for Avoiding SoP Symbiote Supreme’s Nullification Nuke

It is possible to avoid the nuke damage, although you will still take a chunk of damage from Close Encounters.

SS has three phases. Chthon’s Cunning, Null’s Shadow, and Set’s Fangs that he rotated through in that order. It is the phase that he starts in, Chthon’s Cunning, that just auto-nullifies everything currently on you and crushes your hopes and dreams. He automatically transitions to his next phase every 15 seconds, but it is important to note here that if SS uses his sp1, he switches to his next phase immediately.

From what I’ve seen, it takes approximately the same amount of time for him to switch phases as it does for the Placeboes to wear off of you. So, if you want to dodge the massive damage from him shifting into Chton’s Cunning, you need to not hit him for the duration of Set’s Fangs AND not let him throw his sp1. This will give you enough time for your Placeboes, as well as any of your own buffs, to fall off, thereby avoiding the worst of the damage.

This is not easy. Ideally, you want SS to get to an sp2 at the beginning of his Set’s Fangs phase. Then just dex that and ride out the phase. You’ll want to parry and just stand near him as much as you can to offset the Close Encounters damage.

Please note that this is NOT a perfect solution. You almost certainly will still take at least some damage, like the dexterity perk getting nullified off of you. But this goes from just a straight auto-kill to something that is very survivable.

If you have any techniques you’ve found to be useful, feel free to share with the class here. Good luck y’all, and happy hunting!

Comments

Bendy

Yeah i kept dying to this was rather annoying as he gained so much power that he could double special soloed once but control denial was my worse attempt since i feel not enough damage before detonation if the placebo doesn't wear off before the full buff nullify

Wicket329

Yeah, I had to turn on suicides for the Control Denial attempt to get enough damage output to get through without it being an item sink. These objectives were tough but I really enjoyed it.

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Magrailothos

Thanks. Didn't realise the SP1 was causing a change. That'll be helpful with the last target - still need to get him down with a Mercenary.

Wicket329

do you have red guardian?

Yes, and I did do an initial one-shot clear with him. Unfortunately, he doesn’t accomplish any of the objectives.

There are many champions outside of the objectives who can handle this fight, but I wanted to provide some help for those who were struggling to get through it with Cosmic/Mercenary/Control: Denial champions.

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Wicket329

do you have red guardian?
Yes, and I did do an initial one-shot clear with him. Unfortunately, he doesn’t accomplish any of the objectives.

There are many champions outside of the objectives who can handle this fight, but I wanted to provide some help for those who were struggling to get through it with Cosmic/Mercenary/Control: Denial champions.
use captain america infinity war

do you have red guardian?
Yes, and I did do an initial one-shot clear with him. Unfortunately, he doesn’t accomplish any of the objectives.

There are many champions outside of the objectives who can handle this fight, but I wanted to provide some help for those who were struggling to get through it with Cosmic/Mercenary/Control: Denial champions.
or human torch

I don’t think you are understanding the point of this thread. This is a discussion of a playstyle that will let (almost) any champion that fits under the Thronebreaker objective categories handle the fight with minimal revives. You are talking about champions who can get completion done, but do not address the objectives.

If you want to talk about options for completion, I’d recommend doing so on one of the other threads on the subject.

Wicket329

Thanks. Didn't realise the SP1 was causing a change. That'll be helpful with the last target - still need to get him down with a Mercenary.

A lot of my alliance mates have been getting one-shots with Domino, letting the critical bleed off her sp2 do the bulk of the work. I don’t have her ranked up, so I used BWDO. Used two revives, really only needed one but I goofed after the first one. If you use her, it’s also important to let your shocks fall off so that redoubled determination doesn’t ruin your life.

Seraphion

You can also let RNG take the wheel.

If you have champs that can decrease ability accuracy like Domino Taskmaster Mr Sinister etc then you can simply skip phases of Symbiote Supreme.

Pacify also helps. Stun him right before the buff change and you have an additional 30% chance that it might fail.

That way you can go ham and do as much damage as possible with a little luck.

That way you can get a 1 shot Hyperion too.

Austin555555

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Qfury

do you have red guardian?
Yes, and I did do an initial one-shot clear with him. Unfortunately, he doesn’t accomplish any of the objectives.

There are many champions outside of the objectives who can handle this fight, but I wanted to provide some help for those who were struggling to get through it with Cosmic/Mercenary/Control: Denial champions.
use captain america infinity war

do you have red guardian?
Yes, and I did do an initial one-shot clear with him. Unfortunately, he doesn’t accomplish any of the objectives.

There are many champions outside of the objectives who can handle this fight, but I wanted to provide some help for those who were struggling to get through it with Cosmic/Mercenary/Control: Denial champions.
or human torch
I don’t think you are understanding the point of this thread. This is a discussion of a playstyle that will let (almost) any champion that fits under the Thronebreaker objective categories handle the fight with minimal revives. You are talking about champions who can get completion done, but do not address the objectives.

If you want to talk about options for completion, I’d recommend doing so on one of the other threads on the subject.

You tell them!

These god damn cav peasants don't even know what they're talking about.

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Wicket329

I don’t mean to be rude or dismissive, I just know how quickly threads get knocked wildly off course and I’m trying to help people out with some genuinely difficult challenges. Completion, while still commendable, is a *much* lower bar and can be talked about in its own thread.

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I don’t mean to be rude or dismissive, I just know how quickly threads get knocked wildly off course and I’m trying to help people out with some genuinely difficult challenges. Completion, while still commendable, is a *much* lower bar and can be talked about in its own thread.

This guide/tip is helpful indeed. I suggest you just ignore those mentioning non-objective type counters as most of us knew already and those replies helps nothing.

BTW, I used BWCV for denial and I just keep pushing SS to SP2 with aggressive intercept + regen mode SP2, still can’t avoid SS’ cunning mode and suffer huge damage yet it is slightly better. Used 1 revive to finish the last 25%. Also, I tried DV afterwards and his SP2 + odd combo helps me to one shot him. Thanks to YT guide from Jason Vooches.

Graves_3

I don’t mean to be rude or dismissive, I just know how quickly threads get knocked wildly off course and I’m trying to help people out with some genuinely difficult challenges. Completion, while still commendable, is a *much* lower bar and can be talked about in its own thread.
This guide/tip is helpful indeed. I suggest you just ignore those mentioning non-objective type counters as most of us knew already and those replies helps nothing.

BTW, I used BWCV for denial and I just keep pushing SS to SP2 with aggressive intercept + regen mode SP2, still can’t avoid SS’ cunning mode and suffer huge damage yet it is slightly better. Used 1 revive to finish the last 25%. Also, I tried DV afterwards and his SP2 + odd combo helps me to one shot him. Thanks to YT guide from Jason Vooches.

What I noticed with Claire was that hitting Sym supreme with SP2 buff immunity just before he cycles into the chthons cunning(nullification phase) prevents him from dealing any damage/nullifying your buffs/placebos.

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I don’t mean to be rude or dismissive, I just know how quickly threads get knocked wildly off course and I’m trying to help people out with some genuinely difficult challenges. Completion, while still commendable, is a *much* lower bar and can be talked about in its own thread.
This guide/tip is helpful indeed. I suggest you just ignore those mentioning non-objective type counters as most of us knew already and those replies helps nothing.

BTW, I used BWCV for denial and I just keep pushing SS to SP2 with aggressive intercept + regen mode SP2, still can’t avoid SS’ cunning mode and suffer huge damage yet it is slightly better. Used 1 revive to finish the last 25%. Also, I tried DV afterwards and his SP2 + odd combo helps me to one shot him. Thanks to YT guide from Jason Vooches.
What I noticed with Claire was that hitting Sym supreme with SP2 buff immunity just before he cycles into the chthons cunning(nullification phase) prevents him from dealing any damage/nullifying your buffs/placebos.

Thanks for that hints. I always wonder BWCV should have ways to bypass such huge damage but I have no clues ytd. Thanks again.