I’m also waiting for the extra Darkhawk point to be removed. Leaving a point unclaimed until it disappears, so hopefully there’s time to claim the other.
Don’t do that. Just finish the objectives. The point is likely removed after it ends and before rewards go out.
It's funny how some people "could not do all the fights/objectives because of the parry bug". Do you realize EVERYONE had that bug? yet many players COULD do all the fights/objectives while the parry bug was there. How is that even possible?
Are you aware that a lot of people (like me) have not had the bug?
Eh, the last one's not that hard. Lower half of the difficulty level here. At least with stun immunity we're not supposed to rely on parrying. I could do without "opponent dashes back in the same frame they'd get hit and then attacks in next so there is no humanely possible way to react" or "melee attack I dodged suddenly lands across half the map" but those are Kabam's classics so whatever.
It's funny how some people "could not do all the fights/objectives because of the parry bug". Do you realize EVERYONE had that bug? yet many players COULD do all the fights/objectives while the parry bug was there. How is that even possible?
Are you aware that a lot of people (like me) have not had the bug?
Well those have an easier time getting all milestones than those with the bug, haven't they?
Complaining about parry is not valid, we received 10 potions 40%, which helped a lot to advance in the summer of pain, people who didn't, because they didn't know how to play against Emma, you can be sure they only lost those points, a fight that even the parry is not used...We save the tears for another occasion
@Kabam Miike Do you have any plan for some compensation regarding parry/dex bugs and the SOP’s challenges ? It’s been 6 weeks now since the first bug, we still have bugs and we only had one package of compensations… I’m not asking for 1-2-3-… more points, I’m just asking for an extra challenge which would allow players (who had real troubles because of the bugs) to get the points they deserve. I hope you’ll answer my question 🙏🏽
@Kabam Miike Do you have any plan for some compensation regarding parry/dex bugs and the SOP’s challenges ? It’s been 6 weeks now since the first bug, we still have bugs and we only had one package of compensations… I’m not asking for 1-2-3-… more points, I’m just asking for an extra challenge which would allow players (who had real troubles because of the bugs) to get the points they deserve. I hope you’ll answer my question 🙏🏽
Everyone had trouble with the bugs. Everyone who got the point played through it. Having an extra challenge will just make the entire event unfair to those that persevered through it to get it done by rewarding those who didn’t.
Expected more points, it's painfull to end at 26 points...
Based on what is your expectation fueled?
Based on that there is one more week of SOP
They always said 9 fights. After the 2nd week of objectives we knew that each week would have 3 objectives, meaning 9 points from fights, plus 6 x 3 lots of objectives giving 27 points exactly. That left no room for missing any points if you wanted the last milestone, I’m sorry to say that this one is on you, not Kabam.
@Kabam Miike is there any chance we can get the rewards separately? So we can open up the Nexus Crystal BEFORE we have to choose the t5cc selector?
Hmmm... I still wondering till these days. What happened if the game force closed either by purpose or run out of battery during the selection? Will the nexus/cats selector be moved into inventory or be selected randomly?
I don't understand what people are saying, has the extra darkhawk point been removed? Who did it all ended up with 28 points, minus 1 will be removed, or maximum score was 27 and 1 point will be removed? So no one would receive the final milestone.
@Kabam Miike is there any chance we can get the rewards separately? So we can open up the Nexus Crystal BEFORE we have to choose the t5cc selector?
Hmmm... I still wondering till these days. What happened if the game force closed either by purpose or run out of battery during the selection? Will the nexus/cats selector be moved into inventory or be selected randomly?
@Kabam Miike is there any chance we can get the rewards separately? So we can open up the Nexus Crystal BEFORE we have to choose the t5cc selector?
The best course of action is to select whichever Nexus you value most (has best odds of a result good for your account) and to select whichever cats you value most, independently. One has no real effect on the other. Or it shouldn't. Try viewing the progression of your account with a longer perspective than the here and now.
You will always be able to form cats. And it will only speed up with time. Go for the champs you really want. Cats will come and go.
I don't understand what people are saying, has the extra darkhawk point been removed? Who did it all ended up with 28 points, minus 1 will be removed, or maximum score was 27 and 1 point will be removed? So no one would receive the final milestone.
Expected more points, it's painfull to end at 26 points...
Based on what is your expectation fueled?
Based on that there is one more week of SOP
They always said 9 fights. After the 2nd week of objectives we knew that each week would have 3 objectives, meaning 9 points from fights, plus 6 x 3 lots of objectives giving 27 points exactly. That left no room for missing any points if you wanted the last milestone, I’m sorry to say that this one is on you, not Kabam.
I mostly agree with you, but if Kabam goes out of their way to say certain calendars have no grace days, I feel like they should’ve taken the same simple step for this. My accounts ended with a perfect score on my main and 20 on my alt. I’m happy with what I did (and with what I chose to skip).
I don't understand what people are saying, has the extra darkhawk point been removed? Who did it all ended up with 28 points, minus 1 will be removed, or maximum score was 27 and 1 point will be removed? So no one would receive the final milestone.
I only skiped 1 point and i have 26
I understand, so the darkhawk repeat point has already been removed
Expected more points, it's painfull to end at 26 points...
Based on what is your expectation fueled?
Based on that there is one more week of SOP
They always said 9 fights. After the 2nd week of objectives we knew that each week would have 3 objectives, meaning 9 points from fights, plus 6 x 3 lots of objectives giving 27 points exactly. That left no room for missing any points if you wanted the last milestone, I’m sorry to say that this one is on you, not Kabam.
I mostly agree with you, but if Kabam goes out of their way to say certain calendars have no grace days, I feel like they should’ve taken the same simple step for this. My accounts ended with a perfect score on my main and 20 on my alt. I’m happy with what I did (and with what I chose to skip).
Calendars have different reasonable expectations from challenge content. It is reasonable to expect to get all the rewards from a calendar, and the rewards are designed on the assumption that most people will get them all. But if the calendar has a long enough duration, it is possible for accidents or circumstances to cause a player to miss a day. It isn't unreasonable to try to account for that.
But when you allow for grace *fights* in *challenge content* you're now diluting the intent of the content, and since the rewards are not balanced on the assumption everyone will get them all giving people extra chances to maximize their rewards is a lot less of a reasonable expectation.
It is painful to end one point short, but it is supposed to be painful. Calendars are not really supposed to be painful. Challenge content is supposed to be painful. The pain is intentional. It turned out to not be painful for the highest tier players, but it was always going to be painful for someone.
4 disagree tags but no comment... Maybe it is useful to remind that Thronebreakers and Cavaliers do not have the same objectives since a while. In the last week, TB could win several points per week (with the different objectives) while Cavs could only win one point (no objective). Cavs could not reach higher than step 6, said the in-game message. Of course it would have been easy for Cavs to score several points on Ghost or Venom.
4 disagree tags but no comment... Maybe it is useful to remind that Thronebreakers and Cavaliers do not have the same objectives since a while. In the last week, TB could win several points per week (with the different objectives) while Cavs could only win one point (no objective). Cavs could not reach higher than step 6, said the in-game message. Of course it would have been easy for Cavs to score several points on Ghost or Venom.
There are disagrees because you’re asking for extra points to get the next milestone for either 1) no work, which doesn’t make sense because you didn’t work for them. Or 2) to get access to the Thronebreaker milestones while you’re Cav. Which doesn’t make sense because, as the name suggests, they are for Thronebreaker players.
Cav players had the opportunity to get to milestone 6 if they did every fight, and we knew how many fights you’d have to do all the way through. You knew at the start of each week how many you’d need to do to get the milestone you were targeting. If you didn’t manage to do enough fights then that’s not really on Kabam I’m afraid.
4 disagree tags but no comment... Maybe it is useful to remind that Thronebreakers and Cavaliers do not have the same objectives since a while. In the last week, TB could win several points per week (with the different objectives) while Cavs could only win one point (no objective). Cavs could not reach higher than step 6, said the in-game message. Of course it would have been easy for Cavs to score several points on Ghost or Venom.
I didn't flag, but if you want a comment you seem to be asking for an extra point for no other reason than you want an extra point. Yes, Thronebreakers can earn more points per week than Cavalier players. That's deliberate: those points go along with the milestones accessible to Thronebreakers that also require more points to reach. But Thronebreaker rewards are designed around their maximum points possible just like Cavalier players. Cav players can reach a maximum of milestone six, and they need to complete every single fight to reach it. If they fail one, they drop down in rewards. Thronebreakers are in the same situation. Yes, they have more opportunities to earn points but they also need more points to reach their maximum milestone rewards. If they miss a fight or objective, they are also stuck unable to reach the maximum rewards possible and will end up in between milestones.
It sounds like you're saying that it is easier for Thronebreakers to reach milestone six than it is for Cavalier players to reach milestone six and thus Cavalier players are penalized more for missing fights. But that is echoing the belief that Cavalier players are somehow unfairly penalized for not being Thronebreaker players. As if a Cav missing or achieving milestone six is no different from a TB missing or reaching milestone six so it is an unfair disadvantage if it is harder for Cavs than TB players. But that's false: milestone six is the pinnacle of Cav rewards: it should take maximum effort to reach it. Milestone six is a pedestrian reward for TB players: it should be relatively easy for TBs to reach it, because the relative appropriate goal is much higher.
I can't speak for the people who flagged you, but I suspect the inference is you think if TBs had more opportunities for points then it is appropriate for Cavs to get some of those extra opportunities also, which ignores completely the fact that the points, milestones, and rewards are designed differently for the two different progress tiers and aren't interchangeable. The requirements for the maximum Cav reward should be compared to the requirements for the maximum TB reward, not the middle TB reward, even if they are coincidentally the same bundle of rewards.
Expected more points, it's painfull to end at 26 points...
Based on what is your expectation fueled?
Based on that there is one more week of SOP
They always said 9 fights. After the 2nd week of objectives we knew that each week would have 3 objectives, meaning 9 points from fights, plus 6 x 3 lots of objectives giving 27 points exactly. That left no room for missing any points if you wanted the last milestone, I’m sorry to say that this one is on you, not Kabam.
I mostly agree with you, but if Kabam goes out of their way to say certain calendars have no grace days, I feel like they should’ve taken the same simple step for this. My accounts ended with a perfect score on my main and 20 on my alt. I’m happy with what I did (and with what I chose to skip).
Calendars have different reasonable expectations from challenge content. It is reasonable to expect to get all the rewards from a calendar, and the rewards are designed on the assumption that most people will get them all. But if the calendar has a long enough duration, it is possible for accidents or circumstances to cause a player to miss a day. It isn't unreasonable to try to account for that.
But when you allow for grace *fights* in *challenge content* you're now diluting the intent of the content, and since the rewards are not balanced on the assumption everyone will get them all giving people extra chances to maximize their rewards is a lot less of a reasonable expectation.
It is painful to end one point short, but it is supposed to be painful. Calendars are not really supposed to be painful. Challenge content is supposed to be painful. The pain is intentional. It turned out to not be painful for the highest tier players, but it was always going to be painful for someone.
Uncertainty and pain are two different things. I think Kabam’s struggles with effective communication are felt by many users in many areas of the game. On the other side of that coin, Kabam could avoid a substantial number of questions/complaints by being about 10% more clear.
This is another example where a simple statement (Summoners must complete every objective to reach the highest peak milestone) would have removed any frustration or doubt from summoners’ minds. If you skip an objective, the top tier is out the window. Period.
It doesn’t affect the quality of the content or the challenge involved. It clarifies (and raises, IMO) the stakes. It makes for a better user experience by building better understanding.
I don’t want grace fights or need them. I just want a clear statement of the maximum (or the cushion) intended so I can make an informed decision.
Expected more points, it's painfull to end at 26 points...
Based on what is your expectation fueled?
Based on that there is one more week of SOP
They always said 9 fights. After the 2nd week of objectives we knew that each week would have 3 objectives, meaning 9 points from fights, plus 6 x 3 lots of objectives giving 27 points exactly. That left no room for missing any points if you wanted the last milestone, I’m sorry to say that this one is on you, not Kabam.
I mostly agree with you, but if Kabam goes out of their way to say certain calendars have no grace days, I feel like they should’ve taken the same simple step for this. My accounts ended with a perfect score on my main and 20 on my alt. I’m happy with what I did (and with what I chose to skip).
Calendars have different reasonable expectations from challenge content. It is reasonable to expect to get all the rewards from a calendar, and the rewards are designed on the assumption that most people will get them all. But if the calendar has a long enough duration, it is possible for accidents or circumstances to cause a player to miss a day. It isn't unreasonable to try to account for that.
But when you allow for grace *fights* in *challenge content* you're now diluting the intent of the content, and since the rewards are not balanced on the assumption everyone will get them all giving people extra chances to maximize their rewards is a lot less of a reasonable expectation.
It is painful to end one point short, but it is supposed to be painful. Calendars are not really supposed to be painful. Challenge content is supposed to be painful. The pain is intentional. It turned out to not be painful for the highest tier players, but it was always going to be painful for someone.
Uncertainty and pain are two different things. I think Kabam’s struggles with effective communication are felt by many users in many areas of the game. On the other side of that coin, Kabam could avoid a substantial number of questions/complaints by being about 10% more clear.
This is another example where a simple statement (Summoners must complete every objective to reach the highest peak milestone) would have removed any frustration or doubt from summoners’ minds. If you skip an objective, the top tier is out the window. Period.
It doesn’t affect the quality of the content or the challenge involved. It clarifies (and raises, IMO) the stakes. It makes for a better user experience by building better understanding.
I don’t want grace fights or need them. I just want a clear statement of the maximum (or the cushion) intended so I can make an informed decision.
But by week 2 of objectives we knew there would be no grace fights?
Expected more points, it's painfull to end at 26 points...
Based on what is your expectation fueled?
Based on that there is one more week of SOP
They always said 9 fights. After the 2nd week of objectives we knew that each week would have 3 objectives, meaning 9 points from fights, plus 6 x 3 lots of objectives giving 27 points exactly. That left no room for missing any points if you wanted the last milestone, I’m sorry to say that this one is on you, not Kabam.
I mostly agree with you, but if Kabam goes out of their way to say certain calendars have no grace days, I feel like they should’ve taken the same simple step for this. My accounts ended with a perfect score on my main and 20 on my alt. I’m happy with what I did (and with what I chose to skip).
Calendars have different reasonable expectations from challenge content. It is reasonable to expect to get all the rewards from a calendar, and the rewards are designed on the assumption that most people will get them all. But if the calendar has a long enough duration, it is possible for accidents or circumstances to cause a player to miss a day. It isn't unreasonable to try to account for that.
But when you allow for grace *fights* in *challenge content* you're now diluting the intent of the content, and since the rewards are not balanced on the assumption everyone will get them all giving people extra chances to maximize their rewards is a lot less of a reasonable expectation.
It is painful to end one point short, but it is supposed to be painful. Calendars are not really supposed to be painful. Challenge content is supposed to be painful. The pain is intentional. It turned out to not be painful for the highest tier players, but it was always going to be painful for someone.
Uncertainty and pain are two different things. I think Kabam’s struggles with effective communication are felt by many users in many areas of the game. On the other side of that coin, Kabam could avoid a substantial number of questions/complaints by being about 10% more clear.
This is another example where a simple statement (Summoners must complete every objective to reach the highest peak milestone) would have removed any frustration or doubt from summoners’ minds. If you skip an objective, the top tier is out the window. Period.
It doesn’t affect the quality of the content or the challenge involved. It clarifies (and raises, IMO) the stakes. It makes for a better user experience by building better understanding.
I don’t want grace fights or need them. I just want a clear statement of the maximum (or the cushion) intended so I can make an informed decision.
But by week 2 of objectives we knew there would be no grace fights?
Another way to say that was “we spent three to four weeks not knowing if 27 points was the max.” I’m not sympathetic to the complaints but if Kabam can do a better job setting expectations with one sentence, they should do it.
Expected more points, it's painfull to end at 26 points...
Based on what is your expectation fueled?
Based on that there is one more week of SOP
They always said 9 fights. After the 2nd week of objectives we knew that each week would have 3 objectives, meaning 9 points from fights, plus 6 x 3 lots of objectives giving 27 points exactly. That left no room for missing any points if you wanted the last milestone, I’m sorry to say that this one is on you, not Kabam.
I mostly agree with you, but if Kabam goes out of their way to say certain calendars have no grace days, I feel like they should’ve taken the same simple step for this. My accounts ended with a perfect score on my main and 20 on my alt. I’m happy with what I did (and with what I chose to skip).
Calendars have different reasonable expectations from challenge content. It is reasonable to expect to get all the rewards from a calendar, and the rewards are designed on the assumption that most people will get them all. But if the calendar has a long enough duration, it is possible for accidents or circumstances to cause a player to miss a day. It isn't unreasonable to try to account for that.
But when you allow for grace *fights* in *challenge content* you're now diluting the intent of the content, and since the rewards are not balanced on the assumption everyone will get them all giving people extra chances to maximize their rewards is a lot less of a reasonable expectation.
It is painful to end one point short, but it is supposed to be painful. Calendars are not really supposed to be painful. Challenge content is supposed to be painful. The pain is intentional. It turned out to not be painful for the highest tier players, but it was always going to be painful for someone.
Uncertainty and pain are two different things. I think Kabam’s struggles with effective communication are felt by many users in many areas of the game. On the other side of that coin, Kabam could avoid a substantial number of questions/complaints by being about 10% more clear.
This is another example where a simple statement (Summoners must complete every objective to reach the highest peak milestone) would have removed any frustration or doubt from summoners’ minds. If you skip an objective, the top tier is out the window. Period.
It doesn’t affect the quality of the content or the challenge involved. It clarifies (and raises, IMO) the stakes. It makes for a better user experience by building better understanding.
I don’t want grace fights or need them. I just want a clear statement of the maximum (or the cushion) intended so I can make an informed decision.
But by week 2 of objectives we knew there would be no grace fights?
Another way to say that was “we spent three to four weeks not knowing if 27 points was the max.” I’m not sympathetic to the complaints but if Kabam can do a better job setting expectations with one sentence, they should do it.
Actually, that's not 100% true. We knew, or at least I knew with reasonable certainty, that Cavalier players would have to fight and defeat all nine fights in the nine week series to reach milestone 6. That's obvious from the wording of the announcement. Nine fights, one point per fight, and it explicitly stated that if a Cav completes all of them they would get to milestone 6. You can quibble about the semantics, but the reasonable assumption is that nine fights and nine points correspond to milestone 6, and all of them are necessary.
It doesn't explicitly state that the maximum points possible for Thronebreakers is 27, but that's the safe assumption. To assume that they would make every fight necessary for Cavs to reach the top milestone but would not make every fight and all objectives necessary for TBs to reach their top milestone is being self-serving without justification. The *safe* assumption was to assume you had to do everything.
I didn't know, in the mathematical sense, with absolute certainty what the point distribution was going to be. But I knew enough to know that missing even one fight or one TB objective carried with it the extremely high risk that I would be losing maximum rewards. That very high risk is something I knew with certainty, and so should everyone else have.
The devs can always do better with communication, but that doesn't mean the players don't have a reasonable burden to interpret things reasonably, and not aggressively in their favor. Communication requires both sides to work together. If one side chooses not to act reasonably, there's no reasonable expectation that the other side can do all the work.
How about a "grace week" where all fights are available but you only get points for objectives missed.
I don't want anything for free but I'd appreciate another chance to earn the point I missed. I'm sure there are TB guys that wouldn't mind an opportunity either.
I'd completely understand someone saying they whaled out on a particular point and wouldn't have needed to if they knew they'd get a re-do, I also understand that the rules were one fight for one week and it sucks to be me but the unique situation of a pretty major issue with parry/dex coupled with the juiciest rewards for an event in a very long time might make this worth considering.
The compensation packages, while appreciated, were heavily weighted towards other parts of the game while this event was on.
Expected more points, it's painfull to end at 26 points...
Based on what is your expectation fueled?
Based on that there is one more week of SOP
They always said 9 fights. After the 2nd week of objectives we knew that each week would have 3 objectives, meaning 9 points from fights, plus 6 x 3 lots of objectives giving 27 points exactly. That left no room for missing any points if you wanted the last milestone, I’m sorry to say that this one is on you, not Kabam.
I mostly agree with you, but if Kabam goes out of their way to say certain calendars have no grace days, I feel like they should’ve taken the same simple step for this. My accounts ended with a perfect score on my main and 20 on my alt. I’m happy with what I did (and with what I chose to skip).
Calendars have different reasonable expectations from challenge content. It is reasonable to expect to get all the rewards from a calendar, and the rewards are designed on the assumption that most people will get them all. But if the calendar has a long enough duration, it is possible for accidents or circumstances to cause a player to miss a day. It isn't unreasonable to try to account for that.
But when you allow for grace *fights* in *challenge content* you're now diluting the intent of the content, and since the rewards are not balanced on the assumption everyone will get them all giving people extra chances to maximize their rewards is a lot less of a reasonable expectation.
It is painful to end one point short, but it is supposed to be painful. Calendars are not really supposed to be painful. Challenge content is supposed to be painful. The pain is intentional. It turned out to not be painful for the highest tier players, but it was always going to be painful for someone.
Uncertainty and pain are two different things. I think Kabam’s struggles with effective communication are felt by many users in many areas of the game. On the other side of that coin, Kabam could avoid a substantial number of questions/complaints by being about 10% more clear.
This is another example where a simple statement (Summoners must complete every objective to reach the highest peak milestone) would have removed any frustration or doubt from summoners’ minds. If you skip an objective, the top tier is out the window. Period.
It doesn’t affect the quality of the content or the challenge involved. It clarifies (and raises, IMO) the stakes. It makes for a better user experience by building better understanding.
I don’t want grace fights or need them. I just want a clear statement of the maximum (or the cushion) intended so I can make an informed decision.
But by week 2 of objectives we knew there would be no grace fights?
Another way to say that was “we spent three to four weeks not knowing if 27 points was the max.” I’m not sympathetic to the complaints but if Kabam can do a better job setting expectations with one sentence, they should do it.
Week 1-3 only had 1 point available so that's 3 weeks that don't count out of your 3-4 weeks where we didn't know. As DNA said, the precedent had been set that Cav players had to complete every fight to get their max, so the safe bet was that TB would have to as well. By Week 4, where the objectives came in, we were 99% sure that the max available points were 27, and it was spoken about on the forum a lot.
How did we know? 9 fights each giving a point = 9 points. Week 4 came with 3 objectives, so there was a massively strong possibility that each fight would have 3 objectives heading forward. This was further backed up by the simple maths that 9 points for each fight, plus 3 points for objectives for each fight was 9+(3x9)=27. Can you really look at that and tell me that it's just a massive coincidence that by the first week of objectives there was heavy evidence for it to all add up to 27, meaning no grace fights. The reason I said by week 2 of objectives, is that at week 5 of SoP it was the second set of 3 objectives which took our confidence from 99% to 99.999%. It wasn't like we had no idea from the start and then at week 5 was the eureka moment.
Most heavily suspected from the start, anyone not completing a fight from Week 1-3 with literally any champion doesn't really have a leg to stand on if they missed a fight. From Week 4, the evidence strongly pointed to there being no grace fights, since 3 objectives came with the fight and it was unlikely to change in the coming fights. Anyone missing an objective here doesn't really have a leg to stand on either, since no grace fights were an incredibly likely option. Week 5 confirmed it, and from then on, we knew there was almost no chance of grace fights.
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Do you have any plan for some compensation regarding parry/dex bugs and the SOP’s challenges ?
It’s been 6 weeks now since the first bug, we still have bugs and we only had one package of compensations…
I’m not asking for 1-2-3-… more points, I’m just asking for an extra challenge which would allow players (who had real troubles because of the bugs) to get the points they deserve.
I hope you’ll answer my question 🙏🏽
Are there anything else to get 1 more point?
Cavs are more pessimistic than TB, no additional points, even completion point.
You will always be able to form cats. And it will only speed up with time. Go for the champs you really want. Cats will come and go.
But when you allow for grace *fights* in *challenge content* you're now diluting the intent of the content, and since the rewards are not balanced on the assumption everyone will get them all giving people extra chances to maximize their rewards is a lot less of a reasonable expectation.
It is painful to end one point short, but it is supposed to be painful. Calendars are not really supposed to be painful. Challenge content is supposed to be painful. The pain is intentional. It turned out to not be painful for the highest tier players, but it was always going to be painful for someone.
Maybe it is useful to remind that Thronebreakers and Cavaliers do not have the same objectives since a while. In the last week, TB could win several points per week (with the different objectives) while Cavs could only win one point (no objective). Cavs could not reach higher than step 6, said the in-game message. Of course it would have been easy for Cavs to score several points on Ghost or Venom.
Cav players had the opportunity to get to milestone 6 if they did every fight, and we knew how many fights you’d have to do all the way through. You knew at the start of each week how many you’d need to do to get the milestone you were targeting. If you didn’t manage to do enough fights then that’s not really on Kabam I’m afraid.
It sounds like you're saying that it is easier for Thronebreakers to reach milestone six than it is for Cavalier players to reach milestone six and thus Cavalier players are penalized more for missing fights. But that is echoing the belief that Cavalier players are somehow unfairly penalized for not being Thronebreaker players. As if a Cav missing or achieving milestone six is no different from a TB missing or reaching milestone six so it is an unfair disadvantage if it is harder for Cavs than TB players. But that's false: milestone six is the pinnacle of Cav rewards: it should take maximum effort to reach it. Milestone six is a pedestrian reward for TB players: it should be relatively easy for TBs to reach it, because the relative appropriate goal is much higher.
I can't speak for the people who flagged you, but I suspect the inference is you think if TBs had more opportunities for points then it is appropriate for Cavs to get some of those extra opportunities also, which ignores completely the fact that the points, milestones, and rewards are designed differently for the two different progress tiers and aren't interchangeable. The requirements for the maximum Cav reward should be compared to the requirements for the maximum TB reward, not the middle TB reward, even if they are coincidentally the same bundle of rewards.
This is another example where a simple statement (Summoners must complete every objective to reach the highest peak milestone) would have removed any frustration or doubt from summoners’ minds. If you skip an objective, the top tier is out the window. Period.
It doesn’t affect the quality of the content or the challenge involved. It clarifies (and raises, IMO) the stakes. It makes for a better user experience by building better understanding.
I don’t want grace fights or need them. I just want a clear statement of the maximum (or the cushion) intended so I can make an informed decision.
It doesn't explicitly state that the maximum points possible for Thronebreakers is 27, but that's the safe assumption. To assume that they would make every fight necessary for Cavs to reach the top milestone but would not make every fight and all objectives necessary for TBs to reach their top milestone is being self-serving without justification. The *safe* assumption was to assume you had to do everything.
I didn't know, in the mathematical sense, with absolute certainty what the point distribution was going to be. But I knew enough to know that missing even one fight or one TB objective carried with it the extremely high risk that I would be losing maximum rewards. That very high risk is something I knew with certainty, and so should everyone else have.
The devs can always do better with communication, but that doesn't mean the players don't have a reasonable burden to interpret things reasonably, and not aggressively in their favor. Communication requires both sides to work together. If one side chooses not to act reasonably, there's no reasonable expectation that the other side can do all the work.
I don't want anything for free but I'd appreciate another chance to earn the point I missed. I'm sure there are TB guys that wouldn't mind an opportunity either.
I'd completely understand someone saying they whaled out on a particular point and wouldn't have needed to if they knew they'd get a re-do, I also understand that the rules were one fight for one week and it sucks to be me but the unique situation of a pretty major issue with parry/dex coupled with the juiciest rewards for an event in a very long time might make this worth considering.
The compensation packages, while appreciated, were heavily weighted towards other parts of the game while this event was on.
How did we know? 9 fights each giving a point = 9 points. Week 4 came with 3 objectives, so there was a massively strong possibility that each fight would have 3 objectives heading forward. This was further backed up by the simple maths that 9 points for each fight, plus 3 points for objectives for each fight was 9+(3x9)=27. Can you really look at that and tell me that it's just a massive coincidence that by the first week of objectives there was heavy evidence for it to all add up to 27, meaning no grace fights. The reason I said by week 2 of objectives, is that at week 5 of SoP it was the second set of 3 objectives which took our confidence from 99% to 99.999%. It wasn't like we had no idea from the start and then at week 5 was the eureka moment.
Most heavily suspected from the start, anyone not completing a fight from Week 1-3 with literally any champion doesn't really have a leg to stand on if they missed a fight. From Week 4, the evidence strongly pointed to there being no grace fights, since 3 objectives came with the fight and it was unlikely to change in the coming fights. Anyone missing an objective here doesn't really have a leg to stand on either, since no grace fights were an incredibly likely option. Week 5 confirmed it, and from then on, we knew there was almost no chance of grace fights.