[MERGED] Parry Issue Fix

I think I’ve identified the issue with Parry. It seems it was a delayed reaction with the Ebony Maw buff, where he’s still subpar. I think another buff would fix the issue 🤓

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Jeal79

I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.

YOU don't consider it difficult content but many people (particularly who might not have your roster) may do.

Quite arrogant of you that you think the benchmark should be set solely on your own personal standard 🙄

Real_Madrid_76_2

@Intensity108 are you mad or what? UC players need at least 5k six star shards, 1 5 star nexus, 5 40% team revives, 10 10k Health potions. Some boosts some loyalty and a ton of battlevhips and gold. If asked, I would need at least 100k battlechips and 100k gold. And I believe every cab and above deserve a six star nexus and don't think I am joking.

This bug has affected my gameplay style and content finishing time so much

BuggyDClown

The past month and a half have been quite the struggle, BUT with struggle has come compensation packages to help us see the light of the situation. And I think we have been rewarded very well with the compensation packages that we have gotten in the past 5 weeks or so. But the question still stands, does the amount of glory (which I believe might just be AQ compensation) make up for the amount of stress, frustration and anger that have come from the Parry and Controls issue.

Personally, I think the glory is a perfect way to apologise and keep us at high hopes. But every one has had the Parry and Controls bug effect them differently, in my case, it hasn't effected me at all (nearly at all).

Some people think that we should get a larger final compensation package when the entire bug has been fixed, and i'm pretty down for it. but I'm not sure if it's really a need, more of a generous thing to do.

IF we did get this final compensation package, I would think we'd see this in each level of progression:

Thronebreaker - x5000 6-Star Shards + x5 Level 3 Revives

Cavalier - x2500 6-Star Shards + x5 Level 3 Revives OR 1x 5-Star Nexus + x5 Level 3 Revives

Uncollected - x7500 5-Star Shards + x5 Level 2 Revives

Everyone Else - x1 4-Star Nexus + x5 Level 2 Revives

I need to make this clear, I don't think I need this, but some do.

I rarely bother about compensation stuffs. It's what it is. But what you stated as compensation is way too less. This is BS tbh.

More than a month we are dealing with basic and one of most important aspect and core mechanism of the game. It's failed for some and some were less affected. But the impact was very large. It was not in terms of Content or materialistic but mentally. Players got frustrated, exhausted, annoyed, irritated, angry, de motivated occasion to occasion due to this bug. Most players who crush map 6 with epic mods were finding difficult to play 5 due to this bug. Because they were screwed by this bugs during fights. Special lock and Dex are prime example. This de motivates and irritated players. More than half of of SOP was done during this bug problem. Apart from permanent content, all temporary content were forced to be done by players because why not. Players can't rewards once such contents expires.
Do you think after this all such Frustrating month ,your little sympathetic compensation cuts for it. I am not saying to give AGs or something ridiculous but your statement kind of disrespect majority of those players who did content despite bugs. Most of them just forced their way out somehow. Even permanent content impacted many players. For example many tried to beat GM to become TB (or theoretically) so they can participate in SOP for higher rewards. Such opportunity barely shows up.
So don't try to become sweet child of papa kabam here and irritate players who were affected by this bug and we're actually annoyed and frustrated to a very pain point. You will never understand how much I felt when I restarted cav eq chapter 2.3 for 17 times due to special and Dex problems

Pulyaman

I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.
YOU don't consider it difficult content but many people (particularly who might not have your roster) may do.

Quite arrogant of you that you think the benchmark should be set solely on your own personal standard 🙄

Of course I don't consider it difficult, when did I speak for everyone else?. Considering UC and below can be completed with 4 stars on a regular month, using 5 stars to complete it even with the current issues should not be that difficult. It has nothing to do with the roster. If you say act 6 or any of the variants that require specific tags, I agree. I am a average player, so I am talking from that perspective.

Pulyaman

I was always in support of compensating or at least increasing the inventory temporarily once it crossed 14 days. It's not a popular opinion, but I was a little surprised when Kabam compensated for a failed AQ week, but people said that since it was a major resource giver, it made sense to compensate AQ and Kabam have continued to do so. I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.
Have u ever completed any SEQ and MEQ after turning off your parry and dexterity mastery. Not saying that bug completely closes those masteries but u will get a hand on experience of how bad those bugs affected some players.

Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.

BuggyDClown

I was always in support of compensating or at least increasing the inventory temporarily once it crossed 14 days. It's not a popular opinion, but I was a little surprised when Kabam compensated for a failed AQ week, but people said that since it was a major resource giver, it made sense to compensate AQ and Kabam have continued to do so. I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.
Have u ever completed any SEQ and MEQ after turning off your parry and dexterity mastery. Not saying that bug completely closes those masteries but u will get a hand on experience of how bad those bugs affected some players.
Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.

I think you should also consider player's mental status too
There's difference between anger over getting bad champ due to RNG of game and getting screwed out of nowhere due to a bug which is like celebrating it's 1 month birthday in game.

Scopeotoe987

The most amusing thing is... more people are excited to get compensation than the Summer Event items. Says a lot really.

People don’t know what the comp pack will be, it’s like a mystery box of goodies that you know will be great but you can’t say how great, the sense of suspense and mystery add to it.

JessieS

I would be happy with some revives and potions . Say 20 lvl2 review and 20 lvl5 potions

Pulyaman

The most amusing thing is... more people are excited to get compensation than the Summer Event items. Says a lot really.

The problem is, people expect a lot from these as time goes on. Tempering your expectation should be a basic now. The multitude of compensation threads are not helping it.

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Diplodocus

Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.

I am talking about u and not others since u said seq and meq are so easy that they can be easily completed with those bugs. Some players completed SOP emma with 3* so will that mean that SOP emma was easy?

Also as was advised by kabam that players should remain away from the difficult content so many may have missed on those monthly rewards so they did not lost revives but lost actual shards.

Also I dont understand why u think resources lost because SEQ and MEQ should not be considered because they can be earned next month. Its not that next month will give 2 times the total resources for making up the last month.

Pulyaman

I was always in support of compensating or at least increasing the inventory temporarily once it crossed 14 days. It's not a popular opinion, but I was a little surprised when Kabam compensated for a failed AQ week, but people said that since it was a major resource giver, it made sense to compensate AQ and Kabam have continued to do so. I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.
Have u ever completed any SEQ and MEQ after turning off your parry and dexterity mastery. Not saying that bug completely closes those masteries but u will get a hand on experience of how bad those bugs affected some players.
Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.
I think you should also consider player's mental status too
There's difference between anger over getting bad champ due to RNG of game and getting screwed out of nowhere due to a bug which is like celebrating it's 1 month birthday in game.

Sure, I am just saying what I feel will be more valuable to majority of the players in the long run. Shards will come, there is no question about that. But, we should not expect a lot which always happens when there is talk of compensation. Shards are exciting, potions and revives are boring. But, shards disappoint more often than not, items help you clear difficult content. I am willing to forego the shards if it gives me more items. Again, personal opinion.

BuggyDClown

I was always in support of compensating or at least increasing the inventory temporarily once it crossed 14 days. It's not a popular opinion, but I was a little surprised when Kabam compensated for a failed AQ week, but people said that since it was a major resource giver, it made sense to compensate AQ and Kabam have continued to do so. I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.
Have u ever completed any SEQ and MEQ after turning off your parry and dexterity mastery. Not saying that bug completely closes those masteries but u will get a hand on experience of how bad those bugs affected some players.
Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.
I think you should also consider player's mental status too
There's difference between anger over getting bad champ due to RNG of game and getting screwed out of nowhere due to a bug which is like celebrating it's 1 month birthday in game.
Sure, I am just saying what I feel will be more valuable to majority of the players in the long run. Shards will come, there is no question about that. But, we should not expect a lot which always happens when there is talk of compensation. Shards are exciting, potions and revives are boring. But, shards disappoint more often than not, items help you clear difficult content. I am willing to forego the shards if it gives me more items. Again, personal opinion.

Problem is that people's mentality regarding compensation structure is different based hoon their progression and needs. I kind of agree with you that revives are essential for content meanwhile shards will come eventually. Personally I have lot of revives saved so I want some shards to get some decent champ to work upon. But you are right on the point that how long run should be prioritize

Pulyaman

Some players, yes. My point is even if players completed those content using revives, they should be getting back those and not the shards. Revives and potions have value in the game far more than crystal shards which are rng dependent. You can use those items to clear content. So, they are far more valuable. You can earn the same rewards from next month's EQ and use the compensated items to clear other content. That's just me though. I would definitely prefer items over shards.
I am talking about u and not others since u said seq and meq are so easy that they can be easily completed with those bugs. Some players completed SOP emma with 3* so will that mean that SOP emma was easy?

Also as was advised by kabam that players should remain away from the difficult content so many may have missed on those monthly rewards so they did not lost revives but lost actual shards.

Also I dont understand why u think resources lost because SEQ and MEQ should not be considered because they can be earned next month. Its not that next month will give 2 times the total resources for making up the last month.

Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.

Searmenis

This dex parry bug marks the first time this year that I have not only failed to 100% cav eq, but also the first time I have failed to complete a single run through since launch.

For those that haven’t experienced the bug, imagine you choose an easy path in familiar content and either lose or nearly lose every fight. Or walking down the road in broad daylight and then falling down a succession of camouflaged manholes.

Those failed attempts cost time and resources.

After repeated attempts, I have soloed the majority of the SoP fights. Emma Frost however, for whatever reason cost me 45 revives for a single clear. 45 revives. And yes, I can dex her sp1. Yes I understand how the nodes work. I couldn’t bring myself to do the last objective. I’m a little bit deflated as it looks like I’ll end SoP with 26 points.

I’m feeling a little burnt out right now. I’ve got no specific demands for compensation. I’m not really sure what would work for me, but The OPs suggestion of 2k 6* shards and 5 revives does feel more than a little thin.

Emma was a completely different issue. There's a thread somewhere here, for this "new" AI upgrade/bug/whoknows nobody answers when asked, where the defender attacks when you try to intercept, starts a special middle-combo etc etc.

Jeal79

Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.

Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health

Grootman1294

Fix is coming today or tomorrow, y'all can stop asking now lol

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StarLord_Outlw

Just want to give a thanks to Kabam for keeping focus on the players while working on a fix. It's usually difficult to find the issue and develop a quick solution any time a fundamental function of a game engine, primary process, etc is changed and affects any software, because every interaction in the application needs retested after the time it takes to develop the solution.

Thanks for the weekly compensation to help offset the resource usage, extending SOP an extra week when the issue first surfaced to give players time to react, and delaying summoner showdown and the war season to keep the competition fair.

Cody4prez

Whatever the compensation looks like, can we please get them broken into two compensation packages of health pots/revives and shards? I would like to have the option of waiting to have revives/health pots go into my stash and not expire of possible. I know it would likely be too complex to increase inventory or expand the expiration time frame. Having the option to claim over 30 days then use within 14 days could help manage our inventory better. @Kabam Miike

Pulyaman

Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.
Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health
Read this slowly. If you completed something when there was an issue in the game using items, you are entitled to a compensation. If you don't even attempt it, but expect something, you are not entitled to the shards.
I complete content for the rewards, be it shards or cats or whatever. But, I don't expect Kabam to give me compensation for something I did not spend. That being said, here you go. I opened some 20 featured crystals trying for vision and war machine, so I am a little short on 5 star shards.

Actually, the "don't do hard stuff" directive from the management, shatters your "you're not entitled to a compensation if you don't attempt it" reasoning.

I have no idea why people don't read the whole thing. I was specifically talking about MEQ and SEQ. I agree that tackling content like Abyss, Act 6 and some variants is not good. Kabam have said that. But, SEQ and MEQ are not the hard stuff. So, all it shatters is my belief that people actually read posts before replying.

I am not even against compensation, I was not affected as others and I still will get it. What I was asking if you some posts before this one was that, compensation should not be shards, it should be items used to complete the content when the game was bugged. I know we will still get the shards, but people should not expect whatever they could not get by completing content as compensation.

Kaizen_King

@DalBot told you it was Unity.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/276481/update-gameplay-concerns-affecting-parry-and-dexterity

Jeal79

Where you are at within the game has massively warped your perception of what is considered difficult (at least amongst other players)

It comes as no surprise that a player who has done the abyss and explored act 6 considers the monthly content as easy but that just means you are massively out of touch with a large proportion of the community.

Nothing about anybodies reading ability, just your inability to see outside of your own little cage.

Graves_3

Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.
Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health
Read this slowly. If you completed something when there was an issue in the game using items, you are entitled to a compensation. If you don't even attempt it, but expect something, you are not entitled to the shards.
I complete content for the rewards, be it shards or cats or whatever. But, I don't expect Kabam to give me compensation for something I did not spend. That being said, here you go. I opened some 20 featured crystals trying for vision and war machine, so I am a little short on 5 star shards.

Actually, the "don't do hard stuff" directive from the management, shatters your "you're not entitled to a compensation if you don't attempt it" reasoning.
I have no idea why people don't read the whole thing. I was specifically talking about MEQ and SEQ. I agree that tackling content like Abyss, Act 6 and some variants is not good. Kabam have said that. But, SEQ and MEQ are not the hard stuff. So, all it shatters is my belief that people actually read posts before replying.

I am not even against compensation, I was not affected as others and I still will get it. What I was asking if you some posts before this one was that, compensation should not be shards, it should be items used to complete the content when the game was bugged. I know we will still get the shards, but people should not expect whatever they could not get by completing content as compensation.

In which post did kabam specify that act 6, abyss and variants are the hard stuff? They made a blanket statement that avoid hard stuff. To me act 6 and variants are not the hard stuff since I explored them all and abyss is just a unit sink and not hard. But to a new/mid cavalier, the monthly event quest and side quest may be hard. Since kabam didn’t specify what is considered hard, you are just extrapolating your experience to the broader community. And if people spent units to complete content, is it ok to expect units?

Diplodocus

Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.

U literally repeated yourself. You are saying SEQ and MEQ are easy based on some players completing it with bugs. It is same as saying SOP emma was easy with 3*s because some players completed it with 3*s.
Again u are talking about others whom I dont even know that how much were they affected by that bug. Bug happened for many but for some it was worst. That's why I asked u earlier to turn off your parry and dex and do the MEQ and than come here to say that it is easy.
Also I dont think it is the case in which people did not even attempted. They might have attempted many times until it became clear that revive cost will be much more than the reward stuff(I am not making this up, many people have claimed horrible stuff like this on the main thread of parry issue). So for people like this shard stuff will definitely make more sense.

For me personally, dex issue occurred very few times and can be considered negligible. Parry issue was not the worst for me in comparision to others but still it was failing once in every 1-2 fights. I was uncollected when week 4 SOP came and after seeing how much possible it was to complete, I decided to become cavalier. But due to these issues it took me 9-10 more days to become cavalier and was not able to even attempt venom fight. I am now sitting on 4 points after completing every other fight and just one point less than the nexus selector and 25%T5CC.

OWENS

Well, i don't know about anyone else, but, parry for me, is considerably worse.

Yodabolt21

Others in my ally are saying the same

Pulyaman

Again, SEQ and MEQ are easy. I have players who have completed everything last month with the bugs. Kabam advised people to stay away from difficult content, SEQ and MEQ are not difficult content. You can always choose to do it using items if you find it difficult and then ask for compensation, which is fair. Not even attempting them and asking for the shards is a little odd though.
No idea why you are asking about the EF fight. The more skilled you are, the easier it gets. I found the fight very difficult at first, and once I got enough practice in, I finished the fight.
Aaarrgghhh! I feel like I'm talking to a wall!

SEQ and MEQ are easy FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE!! How about someone who has only recently become Cavalier?

Great for you that you think these are easy. Great for you that you don't need the shards. Compensation will be global, separated by progression level. Just because you missed nothing, plenty others did.

You also say that items are worth more than shards? Because it gets you through more content right? What are you doing that extra content for if not for the shards at the end?!? Also how do you invest resource in a champ you haven't pulled yet?

Honestly, your nonsense is making my head hurt. Since shards are nothing, do me a favour and show me the hundreds of unopened crystals in your inventory.

Anyway, my doctor suggests I stop engaging with you now as it's detrimental to my mental health
Read this slowly. If you completed something when there was an issue in the game using items, you are entitled to a compensation. If you don't even attempt it, but expect something, you are not entitled to the shards.
I complete content for the rewards, be it shards or cats or whatever. But, I don't expect Kabam to give me compensation for something I did not spend. That being said, here you go. I opened some 20 featured crystals trying for vision and war machine, so I am a little short on 5 star shards.

Actually, the "don't do hard stuff" directive from the management, shatters your "you're not entitled to a compensation if you don't attempt it" reasoning.
I have no idea why people don't read the whole thing. I was specifically talking about MEQ and SEQ. I agree that tackling content like Abyss, Act 6 and some variants is not good. Kabam have said that. But, SEQ and MEQ are not the hard stuff. So, all it shatters is my belief that people actually read posts before replying.

I am not even against compensation, I was not affected as others and I still will get it. What I was asking if you some posts before this one was that, compensation should not be shards, it should be items used to complete the content when the game was bugged. I know we will still get the shards, but people should not expect whatever they could not get by completing content as compensation.
What about new Cavs, who may see Cav EQ as a similar difficulty to Act 6? Cav EQ is not difficult for you, but remember there is a wide spectrum of players who play this game.

OK. I get that and I did take into account the new cavs or the new uc players too. New cav players would have found the cav eq difficult regardless or bugs and there will be some items used to explore cav eq by new players. This bug just makes it more item intensive.
Kabam will compensate with shards, regardless of what I say, so I don't even know what is the issue. I have been saying from the start this is from my perspective. Not for everyone. Not even other players who have explored act 6, just me. 😂

TheBair123

just curious, are you guys on android or ios?

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