[MERGED] Parry Issue Fix

I think I’ve identified the issue with Parry. It seems it was a delayed reaction with the Ebony Maw buff, where he’s still subpar. I think another buff would fix the issue 🤓

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Intensity108

The past month and a half have been quite the struggle, BUT with struggle has come compensation packages to help us see the light of the situation. And I think we have been rewarded very well with the compensation packages that we have gotten in the past 5 weeks or so. But the question still stands, does the amount of glory (which I believe might just be AQ compensation) make up for the amount of stress, frustration and anger that have come from the Parry and Controls issue.

Personally, I think the glory is a perfect way to apologise and keep us at high hopes. But every one has had the Parry and Controls bug effect them differently, in my case, it hasn't effected me at all (nearly at all).

Some people think that we should get a larger final compensation package when the entire bug has been fixed, and i'm pretty down for it. but I'm not sure if it's really a need, more of a generous thing to do.

IF we did get this final compensation package, I would think we'd see this in each level of progression:

Thronebreaker - x5000 6-Star Shards + x5 Level 3 Revives

Cavalier - x2500 6-Star Shards + x5 Level 3 Revives OR 1x 5-Star Nexus + x5 Level 3 Revives

Uncollected - x7500 5-Star Shards + x5 Level 2 Revives

Everyone Else - x1 4-Star Nexus + x5 Level 2 Revives

I need to make this clear, I don't think I need this, but some do.

The_Sentry06

That's too less tbh.

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Qfury

Ah.. think you might be mistaken.

They said once the fix is in place is when they'll start measuring the impact it's had on the game.

My estimation is 2 weeks tops once the fix is live

Intensity108

This isn't about the same exact topic. I'm saying that I think we don't need a compensation package, but you keep doing what you're doing

DrDrill

So 5 revives is enough to compensate on all your revives you had to use 'if you have the bug' during your last 45 days and counting?
I think Math is hard sometimes

SpideyFunko

i personally think that’s a bit small

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Inferior_Ironman

Just to note: Kabam Mods specifically said that they would be working on a final compensation package once the issue has been resolved. So something is coming for certain, but we have no details what or when. I like your suggestion, although for many who have been affected by this issue and forced to spend units to complete content, 5 revives would likely feel like a slap in the face (especially after they got AQ revives every week for 5+ weeks). I was not personally affected as much as some others, but it complicated my Summer of Pain progression. Personally, I would suggest the following (building off your tiered list):

Thronebreaker - x5000 6-Star Shards OR 1 Mythic Crystal + x15 Level 3 Revives and 25 Level 5 Health Potions

Cavalier - x2500 6-Star Shards OR 1x 5-Star Nexus + x15 Level 3 Revives and 20 Level 5 Health Potions

Uncollected - x5000 5-Star Shards OR 1 Legendary Crystal + x15 Level 2 Revives and 20 Level 4 Potions

Everyone Else - x2500 5-Star Shards OR 1 4-Star Nexus + x15 Level 2 Revives and 20 Level 3 Potions

Add on some champion boosts for each package. Players get to choose what they feel impacts them the most. Maybe 5k 6 star shards is not appealing because they just opened a 6*. The mythic crystal represents a chance at another 6*, but could be only 5*. Interesting choices (in my mind) for each of the progression tiers. I increased the rewards overall from your suggestion because Kabam has mentioned that they want to increase the rate of progression for lower level players.

Stebo_79

Would probably be similar to the one last year... or was it the year before?
Anyone under conqueror got a 4 star nexus and 5k 5 star shards.
Over got a 5 star nexus and 5k 6 star shards. Maybe this time TBs will get a 6 star nexus and an awakening gem or something

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ChaosMax1012

I dont think so either but people are gonna milk those rewards and disagree with anyone who says otherwise. But hey, benefits us all atleast.

Demonzfyre

I'm usually against most comp because it's rarely needed for super small bugs. This is not one of those cases. There truly people who can't play some content because of the bug like the monthly EQs or AQ. There are ones who are trying and spending resources they wouldn't normally.

Kabam has said to back off the harder content for now. I do expect compensation for things like MEQs. Not act 7 or abyss rewards because that can be done anytime. But I would expect shards for sure. Maybe some rank up materials but doubtful and definitely revives and pots.

We don't need things like 6* nexus crystals or t6b. But there is a need for it.

TheBoogyMan

Only 5k shards for TB? Bruh the cav eq gives more than that

Pulyaman

You mean you don't need it seeing you were not affected at all. The compensation that was sent out was for people who were affected running AQ. Plenty of people were affected and had to step down from higher tiers of maps and do difficult content despite having issues. You could always not claim the compensation if you don't need it, just saying.
With regards to your compensation package, I think they can skip the shards and only give items. Compensation is for things you used when the bug was present. Items are what people use to clear content, not shards or cats. Glory, revives and potions are what I would be looking at.

Hoitado

You do realize that for Regular Compensation they sent out we got 10 L2 revives and 10 potions which heal for 10k health (don’t know the level lol)

That would be so much less

Jeal79

I agree with the above. For many, compensation just needs to be a replacement of their additional costs (units, Revives, heals etc).

However, there will also be players (potentially newly Cavalier) who will not have been able to finish monthly content because of the issues. These players would actually have missed out on quest completion rewards so I believe there could still be shards within a compensation package.

In game mails are already advising players not to take on difficult content. If this content happens to be timed like EQ is then that advice causes missed rewards so I fully expect the compensation to be a broad distribution of shards, cats and potions based upon your progression level.

Ercarret

I think you need to take two things into consideration.

1) The game has been nearly unplayable for some people for almost 2 months now. Even when people haven't been directly affected or have been affected to a lesser extent than others, it has crippled many alliances which affects all players in them whether they personally experience the bug.

The AQ compensation has balanced up that somewhat but I think that even a fix to the bug won't necessarily fix everything that's gone wrong for alliances. People have reduced their participation in events or just downright left the game (whether temporarily or forever, I can't say), and whatever "flow" you had before is most certainly gone by now. We were doing great in my alliance in the weeks before the bug and was just crushing it in both AQ and AW, and now we're down to scratch and will most likely have to rebuild again.

The compensation we've had has been nice, but man, there has to be something huge for me to feel like it's enough. I'm honestly not sure if Kabam can manage that. I won't be angry at them if they don't (assuming they don't completely drop the ball) but I have a hard time seeing myself saying to my alliance mates, yeah, this compensation really was above and beyond what could be expected given the nature of the problem's we've faced.

2) The bug came right as the biggest progression-pushing event in (I'm fairly certain) the history of the game was going on. Even without the bug, the event has been stressful all summer long for a lot of players. Add an inability to not even do the most basic things in the game and...I can't imagine how hard some of these fights must have been.

As a Thronebreaker, the rewards I'll receive are nice but not game-changing. They won't push me significantly towards the next progression title, whatever that may be. However, this was a great chance for Cavalier players to become Thronebreakers. How many Cavs have not been able to defeat the necessary bosses for that to happen? Or have been able to, but with a huge amount of unnecessary stress?

You can't ignore how the year's spiciest rewards (I think? Outside of the Gauntlet, perhaps) were missed out on or cost way more resources than they should have, simply because of the bug. This is something that has to be compensated as well. I personally haven't missed out on anything but I can see how especially Cavs could have been affected greatly. We've also heard stories of Uncollected players that tried to push for Cavalier to try their luck in SOP but couldn't because of the bug. This bug really messed up a lot of people's plans relating to this.

So with that said, what can be done? Well, I have no idea. But the game has been completely dead for two months and Kabam really need to figure out how they are going to reignite people's interest in it.

The only thing I know is, I don't envy them.

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Demonzfyre

Agreed. People want T5CC and whatnot and I just don't think that's going to happen. Get that SOP is timed but I don't see Kabam giving rewards to people who didn't try or went in once. You can practice as much as you want for an entire week to get the timing down. We'll get revives for sure in the comp so if you want the SOP rewards, that's the place to use them. Not Cav difficulty.

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Doctorwho13

To your point regarding shards. I wonder how much and how in depth the data will be reviewed post bug fix.

I say this as if people heeded kabam’s advice and did not do harder content while the bug is in play they actually did miss out on some shards. At least the difference between the level the normally do and the lower level of content

AntzRodz

My question is when will the fix be live in the first place..😂😂

Pulyaman

Depends on what content though. The events like Monthly eq and side events are always on, so I don't think they need to be compensated, similar to arena or incursions. Permanent content can be done anytime. Only thing that was temporary is SOP. Some would argue that even that was easy. So, I am not sure what content people missed out on.

Graves_3

Multiple compensation threads have had a common theme where people were asking regular revives and potions and other people were pointing them to the kabam announcement of not doing hard content. For some that may have meant not doing cavalier event quest of the legendary side quest and doing the lower difficulty. If kabam sent questing revives and potions regularly and encouraged people to do the more difficult content, I would agree with you that shards may not be needed but if people stepped down a difficulty per kabams advice then they do merit shard compensation.
And you mention that they only deserve consumable as compensation since that’s what they spent. Now let me ask you what the need for consumable(which expire) is once the bug has been fixed? Will they give units since some people used units to revive/top up on health?
And why are you discounting monthly event quest and side quest since it’s recurring? When kabam clearly is giving resources for AQ which recurs weekly?

Graves_3

They did say they did not face the bug at all. Maybe they will let the compensation sit in stash unclaimed and expire😉

Pulyaman

I was always in support of compensating or at least increasing the inventory temporarily once it crossed 14 days. It's not a popular opinion, but I was a little surprised when Kabam compensated for a failed AQ week, but people said that since it was a major resource giver, it made sense to compensate AQ and Kabam have continued to do so. I don't consider SEQ and MEQ as difficult content, so I don't see any reason to not complete it even with the current issues.

Fitnesscw

As much as I love their compensation it gets annoying when that's all people talk about. Let's worry about the game. Compensation is coming.

Diplodocus

Have u ever completed any SEQ and MEQ after turning off your parry and dexterity mastery. Not saying that bug completely closes those masteries but u will get a hand on experience of how bad those bugs affected some players.

Searmenis

SoP wasn't the only temporary event, monthly EQ and July's sidequest was also under the "influence" of the bugs. Considering they told us Not to do hard content, that, typically, includes cav difficulties of both EQ and SQ. Personally I didn't have major issues on these events, with the exception of SoP and days here and there when the game was really unplayable.

I m currently cavalier, started my way to TB a week or so before the bugs, since I m 5% before my first t5 cat, and currently stuck in 6.3.4 for the past 45 days (tried once or twice to do a path, parry and screen freezes costed my champs, so I stopped trying.) The thing is, I started making an effort for TB because of the SoP rewards, not to get the t3-t6 cats, I don't care about them at this stage, but for a somehow better rewards, a few t5 % more, especially since SoP wasn't as hard as I thought it will be. I m ending rank 6 because I skipped.. Mysterio I think, so there. As for July's EQ, I do use revives, for bosses mostly, but last month I used a LOT. I barely made it through for 100% the event by spending more than 500 units overall, not to mention SQ's hit monkey, some days was acting like he was the boss of 8.3 or something. Anyway.

Glory helped at the start, now I m overflowing of AQ revives and potions. Five lvl2 revives and some potions they gave us halfway don't cover 10% of what we spent or we ve been through, Summer of Pain was everything else except the self titled event.

I do want units as a final compensation. But I won't get units and that's natural, they can't give you the base of their money-spending system. So, Potions and revives, first of all, Level THREE and above and at least 10 each. One rank up gem 4-5 5* for cav+, one (not generic) awaking 6* gem and two 6* nexus. It's not much, but it will do for me.