Gamora Spotlight

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https://playcontestofchampions.com/champion-spotlight-gamora/

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GroundedWisdom

I don't form opinions and judgments before things even go live.

Denzel116

What I hoped for:
Gamora’s buffs would fall off one at a time, similar to Howard the Duck

Gamora’s heavy animation would be changed to something more tactical and practical. The spinning jump 3 kick that was standard for all female characters is outdated and annoying.

New synergies with the Guardians of the Galaxy and the black order to add to her buffs and/buff times

The longer the fight, the more frequent the buffs. The more buffs, the more potent the next buffs.

Critical bleed guaranteed on SP2

What will get get?
Most likely a ronin Nova tune up mash up.

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whatitdobayb

If they changed her heavy animations and give it more reach it would fix some of her play style issues, make her sp1 animation her heavy.....

This is actually a good idea + give her a passive stun in her combo like wasp and boom we just did Kabams job 100x better and we’re not even being paid

Bugmat78

Why do they even try if every Buff is "not good enough"?
Because different people find different buffs bad. Some complain about all or most, some are more realistic and don’t only see bad things about the buffs that truly seem flawed.

I think I’ve only said that Ronin, Hood, Nova and Gamora were bad buffs. I’ve since changed my mind about Ronin.

And to be clear, I am not expecting any champion to become broken. That’s why I am not saying “why hasn’t gamora been given CGR damage, along with permanent buffs on every hit and also 100% AAR and miss, evade counter etc”

Miles’ buff doesn’t look like it’ll catapult him to the top of his class, but there’s a reason I’m not saying his buff is bad, and that’s because it looks like his kit is well designed, usable and fun. Gamora is not, timers like this for champions is not a good mechanic, especially when if you don’t hit your mark you lose all your damage, and all your utility. Forcing a player to heavy between 9-14 seconds is not fun gameplay, it’s stressful and bad design for me.

If a champion is well designed, cool, that’s all good with me. Whatever level they end up being I don’t mind as long as their kit functions and makes sense, while being fun to use. That’s why I actually love the DDHK buff, I awakened him on my mini account as a 6* with my abyss gem. His damage isn’t the best, but he’s a lot of fun. God tier doesn’t matter to me, what does matter, is buffs that don’t just half heartedly change a couple things about an already mediocre champ and expect anything to change with how they’re used.

This buff hasn’t changed any of the core issues with Gamora, it’s just added some utility on top of her flawed mechanic.
People have complained about every buff besides Colossus from what I've seen.

Look harder then - as listed above plenty buffs have been great and universally appreciated with no argument including Mr Fantastic, Diablo, Mole man, Falcon. Red & White Magneto.

You're not even trying today!

GroundedWisdom

Why do they even try if every Buff is "not good enough"?
Because different people find different buffs bad. Some complain about all or most, some are more realistic and don’t only see bad things about the buffs that truly seem flawed.

I think I’ve only said that Ronin, Hood, Nova and Gamora were bad buffs. I’ve since changed my mind about Ronin.

And to be clear, I am not expecting any champion to become broken. That’s why I am not saying “why hasn’t gamora been given CGR damage, along with permanent buffs on every hit and also 100% AAR and miss, evade counter etc”

Miles’ buff doesn’t look like it’ll catapult him to the top of his class, but there’s a reason I’m not saying his buff is bad, and that’s because it looks like his kit is well designed, usable and fun. Gamora is not, timers like this for champions is not a good mechanic, especially when if you don’t hit your mark you lose all your damage, and all your utility. Forcing a player to heavy between 9-14 seconds is not fun gameplay, it’s stressful and bad design for me.

If a champion is well designed, cool, that’s all good with me. Whatever level they end up being I don’t mind as long as their kit functions and makes sense, while being fun to use. That’s why I actually love the DDHK buff, I awakened him on my mini account as a 6* with my abyss gem. His damage isn’t the best, but he’s a lot of fun. God tier doesn’t matter to me, what does matter, is buffs that don’t just half heartedly change a couple things about an already mediocre champ and expect anything to change with how they’re used.

This buff hasn’t changed any of the core issues with Gamora, it’s just added some utility on top of her flawed mechanic.
People have complained about every buff besides Colossus from what I've seen.
Look harder then - as listed above plenty buffs have been great and universally appreciated with no argument including Mr Fantastic, Diablo, Mole man, Falcon. Red & White Magneto.

You're not even trying today!

If you want to be literal, then no. Not EVERY buff. However, there is too much complaining and discontent when they don't turn out mind-blowing. Some have missed the mark, like the first Diablo and Maw buffs. No doubt. Not nearly as many as people claim suck.

GroundedWisdom

It's usually expectations vs. reality.

The_Sentry06

Isn't the point of a buff to get more people to use that champion? How is this buff going to achieve that?

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Shadowstrike

The change may be minimal, but that's reasonable. They're not all going to be significant changes, as per their objectives. One rework, one small values change. That's the goal.
Small values doesn’t have to mean insignificant. Angela had a value buff and she’s one of the top cosmic champs in the game with an incredibly unique and fun ability set.
See. There's the comparison. People are comparing them to other buffs and not how they worked before. I was even surprised she was being buffed. She wasn't the top of my list for needs.
They said in the announcement “ We’ve heard it from our players and feel it ourselves, some of the updates are not up to the level that Summoners had hoped. While not every Champion is meant to suddenly skyrocket to the top of the DPS charts or replace every Champion in your Roster, we feel that players are not happy with some of the updates they have received lately.

While we understand that this change will lead to fewer Champion updates per month, we believe that this will allow us to give you better quality updates every month with fewer issues.”

So Kabam know the community weren’t happy with the level of some of the updates, and as a result, they pumped out another update in line with the ones we wouldn’t be happy with.

You realize these buffs were planned out in advance?

That announcement came out last week when they were working on her a couple months back, so they were already too far along to make the drastic changes you'd prefer.

Realistically, you'll probably be seeing that extra elbow grease they're promising to apply, kick in around November - December..

mgj0630

Definitely a very disappointing buff.

The best thing about Gamora continues to be her synergy with CAIW, giving the 25% buff duration increase to all cosmics, making the heavy hitters like CGR and Hercules even more fun to play (I'm looking at you Hercules with an 11.25 second immortality!!).

I don't know, I guess for me, the biggest frustration is that this is the second time around missing the mark for Gamora.

I think most people, certainly myself, liked a lot of the aspects of her first buff, but the vast majority of complaints were how difficult it was to keep her buffs up.

Now they take another swing at her, immediately after saying they were slowing from three to two champs per month, in an effort to avoid undesirable buffs, and promptly delivered an undesirable buff.

Pikolu

I like how everyone complains her true strike is locked behind sp3 when it is currently locked behind sp3 right now 🤣 the buff just adds shock damage to that sp3

The_Sentry06

I like how everyone complains her true strike is locked behind sp3 when it is currently locked behind sp3 right now 🤣 the buff just adds shock damage to that sp3

What? What does the true strike being locked behind sp3 now have to do with us pointing out how impractical it is?

Stellar

Definitely a very disappointing buff.

I think most people, certainly myself, liked a lot of the aspects of her first buff, but the vast majority of complaints were how difficult it was to keep her buffs up.

Exactly ! While she can deal some high damage, she is too RNG dependent to get the buffs and the way to keep them alive too strict.

Having to get and maintain 10 buffs to deal with miss effect... CGR can do it with 5 hits ! Hercules can do it with its SP1, Silver surfer with its SP1 too, and that is only for cosmic champions. They don't have to do something special to maintain, only hit and do their specials which means they can more easily counter stun immune champion relying on miss effect.

the same goes with True strike, she have to go up to her SP3 before activating it. there other champions able to do that more easily/rapidly and with the same utility/damage than Gamora => Proxima for example

if you want to make her buff dependent for her damage and her ability, make her activate True Strike when reaching 3 Fury buff and vigilance when reaching 3 cruelty buff. You could add something like if she does her SP3 she gain a permanent aptitude buff enhancing her buff by +20%

slacker

The change may be minimal, but that's reasonable. They're not all going to be significant changes, as per their objectives. One rework, one small values change. That's the goal.
Small values doesn’t have to mean insignificant. Angela had a value buff and she’s one of the top cosmic champs in the game with an incredibly unique and fun ability set.
See. There's the comparison. People are comparing them to other buffs and not how they worked before. I was even surprised she was being buffed. She wasn't the top of my list for needs.
They said in the announcement “ We’ve heard it from our players and feel it ourselves, some of the updates are not up to the level that Summoners had hoped. While not every Champion is meant to suddenly skyrocket to the top of the DPS charts or replace every Champion in your Roster, we feel that players are not happy with some of the updates they have received lately.

While we understand that this change will lead to fewer Champion updates per month, we believe that this will allow us to give you better quality updates every month with fewer issues.”

So Kabam know the community weren’t happy with the level of some of the updates, and as a result, they pumped out another update in line with the ones we wouldn’t be happy with.

My theories is, Gamora was suppose in 3 buffs schedule, then Kabam changed that and throw her in 2 buff schedule as a "back up" like 3 buffs, that's why we have this situation, and i think that Kabam decide to take more time to test the other buff champs so they didn't have time to test Gamora properly, and i think we should see this efficient of 2 buffs in other months when all "3 buffs schedule" champs are over and get "2 buffs schedule" treatment.

Lovek

so many people said " she is a stress champ'" with her timer....
and timer still here !!!

totally disapointed... again....

her kit utility on sp3 is so short and will add more stress..

should be "the most stressful champ' in the galaxy"

unplayable champ' again. Still will we never used

i definitively quit the forum. i feel like we talk to wall now. thank you and goodbye all.

ThatGuyYouSaw235

Damn, I had my hopes up with my 6* Gamora.

raviXsharma

A 100-second cooldown of the Godslayer Strike will make it borderline useless in most fights. It's a good ability, but not "too good to use twice in a fight" good. It won't win you the fight.

Having her counter ~~auto-block~~ at 10 buffs is also strange. The buff-reliant utility concept works for Angela because it's really easy to reach 3 or 4 buffs, but 10 buffs with Gamora? It'll become easier as the fight goes on but it feels like you'll be without that mechanic for quite some time while you build them up. An ~~auto-block~~ counter is not something you want to be without for that long, I think.

Edit: It should be Miss, not Auto-Block. My bad.

It would have been nice if you got some buff or another by using the Heavy, I think. That would make building them up smoother. But we'll see, I guess. I don't have any experience with Gamora whatsoever since I haven't ever pulled her in any rarity over 3 or maybe 4* (and don't have those ranked up), so I don't really know how good she is at building buffs. If she builds them like crazy, maybe it'll work.

But yeah, hiding a true strike behind her SP3 is weak. I guess Kabam finally listened to all of our whining about "too much True Focus in the game!"?

If you've a high Sig gamora you can decrease the godslayer cooldown timer to 20 seconds. They're trynna make dupes more usefulness with every bugged champion so people don't be in an awe when duping

sudeep9680

Bro, this is couldn't be a discussion because you shouldn't post on newly featured or buffed characters in any manner

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DualityCope

She was never a terrible champ. I don't mind the impractical buff. Happens a lot. As they buff old champs, sometimes the synergys alone make it worth it. I was hoping her synergys would change some.

Having a borderline useless dud of a buff like this means a lot more now than it did before bcause of the promise of higher quilty buffs in exchange for less buffs per month.

Kabam have slashed the amount of buffs we get per month in half. Which means this buff is one of the now only *2* buffs we get every month. Kabam supposedly lowered the amount of buffs per month to give us better quality updates. If this "buff" what kabam meant by that, this is a bad sign to come.

Now we are left with practically only 1 buff this month because kabam has failed to deliver.

I just hope that all this negative feedback ensures something like this won't happen again.

GroundedWisdom

That's pretty dramatic over a values change, as per their objectives. She wasn't even that bad to begin with since her last buff. Honestly, the issue is being exaggerated.

DualityCope

That's pretty dramatic over a values change, as per their objectives. She wasn't even that bad to begin with since her last buff. Honestly, the issue is being exaggerated.

The more people that say this is okay the higher chance kabam will think the same.

Please don't contribute to that this time around. We want good buffs

GroundedWisdom

That's pretty dramatic over a values change, as per their objectives. She wasn't even that bad to begin with since her last buff. Honestly, the issue is being exaggerated.
The more people that say this is okay the higher chance kabam will think the same.

Please don't contribute to that this time around. I want good buffs

You think we control what they do?
They don't all have to be AMAZING.

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J0eySn0w

A very useless buff, I don't think any effort or thoughts went into this buff. If this is the kind of buffs we're going to get, we might as well take the old buff system like that. Sadly how optimistic some of us where when the buffs were reduced hoping we'd get a more thought-out designs.
Like what someone suggested on her spotlight discussion page, give her the ability to chain her combo into heavy like Doom and Wasp (fyi wasp's is broken, idk if it's known). If you like add a timer to it like Elsa's parry-evade. That way it's more practical to use her and not have to worry about expiring buffs meaning expiring utility so-called miss & evade counter.

Denzel116

That's pretty dramatic over a values change, as per their objectives. She wasn't even that bad to begin with since her last buff. Honestly, the issue is being exaggerated.

“She wasn’t even THAT bad” is the equivalent of saying she’s not good. Which is essentially what people are clamoring about. We don’t want the hype of and “buff” but the reality of a dud.

I’ve read your responses. I understand you believe most of us are being “dramatic.” I won’t make this a personal attack towards you because, hell…I don’t have the energy.

But champion buffs are the next best thing to getting exciting champs out of crystals. Especially when these are champions that have so much POTENTIAL. A tweak here, a bump there, and instant amazing champ.

But for most of us it feels like there’s an intentional effort to limit these amazing buffs in the name of “balance.” Which is hard to process because we have more than enough new champs flying around here throwing 10K mediums like it’s normal. The balance argument because pretty repetitive.

People want to be excited about champs they recognize and have grown to like. Outside of MCOC I had no idea Quake was a thing. But Gamora is a thing. And when a simple adjustments could have such positive pro players impact, then it’s a bit callous calling people dramatic.

But alas…I understand you are contrarian. And I know deep down some part of you gets where we are coming from.