The grind is real I guess

Pulyaman · September 2021

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

pseudosane said:

GroundedWisdom said:

DNA3000 said:

Odachi said:

Honestly, what's the issue? Just play the game and stop moaning about having to play the game or find a new game to play.
Not everyone grinds arena. Arena grinders will probably find the objectives fairly easy, non-grinder are going to find them a lot more problematic depending on circumstances.

I'm all for having people have to play the game. I didn't complain about the sunglasses fights. And these aren't *wildly* ridiculous, but depending on reasonable circumstances a lot of players are going to have to go way out of their way to get these. Normal gameplay *can* get them, for some players, but a lot of reasonably active players cannot get them that way.
That's where I diverge. Some people don't enjoy the Arenas, fair enough. Some don't have the time to invest, fair as well. However, the Arena is an aspect of the game. In terms of wanting maximum Rewards, it's going to come up now and then. I think it's an advisable aspect of the game. Not that I'm disputing that this iteration is excessive. I think far too many people neglect the Arena, but that's just me.
hard disagree. Arena is an optional mode. And this is coming from a relatively hardcore arena grinder. I do arena because i want to, not have to.
No one HAS to do anything but die and pay taxes. However, if they're trying to get the maximum Resources possible out of the game, which are pretty much necessary if you want to compete or achieve the higher levels of status in the game, then it's pretty much sacrosanct.
Nope not true plenty people “at the top” don’t do arenas. Not because of time because they don’t have to.

They have to either grind arena or spend money. I agree that arena is an optional mode for the most part. But, I assume kabam wants players to play all the modes and not just 1 or 2. I am also not sure playing arena is the only way to complete these objectives. While they are tedious, it made me wait a while and use my sp at the right times when doing master and uc eq which I usually autoplay or just wade my way through. Not the best content, but not as bad as some of these comments make it out to be. Kabam can't hit a homerun every ball.

Rookiie · September 2021

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.

I genuinely don't care anymore. I got to a stage (or probably, have mostly always been at this stage) where if I see something I like I will do it. And a lot of the times, there are things I don't like, but hey. Kabam's loss not mine 🤷🏻‍♂️

Kerneas · September 2021

I was hyped at first about the two months lomg event. However I thunk the smart thing to do rn would be to split these and make october a separate event. September is mostly lost cause imo, but let's not drag october down along.

Chrisco66 · September 2021

I understand the priority is fixing the game engine but this month is bad bad bad. Shang Chi ch2 is poorly designed & difficult to complete with a broken game & doesn’t reward well. & these objectives are the cakes icing. Plz improve. Ty

Psychoakuma · September 2021

I love a good (and innocuous conspiracy theory), so let me draft one:

Here's the reason why Kabam released these objectives: people moaning and whining about side-quests being too monotonous, or too hard, too much energy needed, or too randomised etc etc etc.

They then take away side-quests and bombard us with even worse "objectives" to replace side-quests.

We get more upset and annoyed with these, and gladly welcome back side-quests instead of these objectives lol.

Honestly though, these objectives along with the summer event + all the bugs have just combined into one long arduous summer (for the northern hemisphere). Luckily for us southern hemisphere folk all this muck occurred in our winter when things were already bleak, and will end as we approach our summer

GroundedWisdom · September 2021

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.

Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.

Jaded · September 2021

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.

Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.

GroundedWisdom · September 2021

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.

You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?

GroundedWisdom · September 2021

Things come up all the time for me that take me away from the game. People earn things I didn't have time to do. That's called fairness.

ItsDamien · September 2021

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?

Because we're being rewarded less for more effort right now compared to other similar objectives. Your comparison is bad.

GroundedWisdom · September 2021

ItsDamien said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?
Because we're being rewarded less for more effort right now compared to other similar objectives. Your comparison is bad.

I'm talking about the complaints towards the Objectives in general. We can't expect full Rewards all the time for logging on a few minutes a day. This Objective is a bit extreme, and I've already agreed on that front.

Jaded · September 2021

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?

Oh I got the gist of it dude, you’re just missing the point completely.

@ItsDamien explained it exactly

GroundedWisdom · September 2021

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?
Oh I got the gist of it dude, you’re just missing the point completely.

@ItsDamien explained it exactly

I got the point of the arguments towards this Objective. I don't agree with the arguments against Objectives.

rcm2017 · September 2021

Its still a grind. I tried it with cosmic god hyperion and as he has a special almost always ready. I completed most of it BUT its still a BIG GRIND and I would not want to do it again. I also dont touch arenas. Fun is where you want the game mode again back in future and I dont want this to be back.

LordSmasher · September 2021

I don't care about the objectives, I don't want to do them. I don't care about missing out on the rewards.

What I don't want is for me to be locked out of quests but I didn't climb up this mountain of chores.
What sort of design locks fun stuff behind chores? It makes no sense.

Giuliameij · September 2021

The 100 kills weren`t that bad. I did them, easily and without any special thought from 1 round of 5/6* arena. The first week relied more on using specific champs.
If you don`t grind arena thou, I can see your 'pain'.

J0eySn0w · September 2021

This grind it ridiculous not even a debate, for the majority of the player base c'mon. What makes this month's worse is we had to do the same last month's as well (I hated last month's, didnt do all but did a huge %).
If I were Kabam, I will lock these objectives or side quest to progression level like I mentioned before. I believe some are okay with the grind (esp newer players and growing accounts)
Example (wild and a long stretch but just a thought)
- Cavs can have the objective grind thing / it's own rewards or same rewards as TB
- TBs a less grindy objective, maybe a map kind of quest with paths gated or something / it own rewards or same as Cavs
- Now, they can make it such that depending on how the rewards are structured, if you wanna do the other titles' you can have a pass i.e TBs to do Cavs and vice versa...a pass of just $0.99, it's moreso for those that are okay with the grind to offer something small for the rewards over there.

But knowing Kabam they'll butcher this with some absurd rewards structure or pass fee.

The_Sentry06 · September 2021

GroundedWisdom said:

ItsDamien said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?
Because we're being rewarded less for more effort right now compared to other similar objectives. Your comparison is bad.
I'm talking about the complaints towards the Objectives in general. We can't expect full Rewards all the time for logging on a few minutes a day. This Objective is a bit extreme, and I've already agreed on that front.

No one's asking for rewards after logging in for a few daily for a minutes. There's a massive grey area between that and what we have currently.

Pulyaman · September 2021

Am I reading these right or do we need to complete only 1 solo objective per week to get access to next months eq. So, if you feel defeating 6 stars with a special is crazy and boring, just do the 3 star one. I am done with 6 and 5 star ones, but the 3 star ones are very easy to do. Bishop with full synergies - Go into ROTL chapter with 3 stars(1.1.5 or 1.1.6) or the UUDD side quest, fire sp3 till the objectives are done.
I get that not everyone has the time and don't find this fun, but I like completing grinds like these. The objectives are excessive to some, but not as tedious as asking to finish the fight using a skill champ with a light attack. I find those more annoying than these generic ones.

Rohit_316 · September 2021

I am not sure if it has been asked before or not but do we have to do all special objectives in order to be eligible for next month total rewards ? I am TB so do i need to do proven objectives ?

BitterSteel · September 2021

GroundedWisdom said:

ItsDamien said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?
Because we're being rewarded less for more effort right now compared to other similar objectives. Your comparison is bad.
We can't expect full Rewards all the time for logging on a few minutes a day.

Could you show some respect to what people are saying instead of minimising their thoughts and opinions into “I want all rewards to be given for a few minutes effort”.

BLEEDlNG_DGE · September 2021

Yeah lol HARD pass. Not even a strip club has this much grinding.

GroundedWisdom · September 2021

BitterSteel said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ItsDamien said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?
Because we're being rewarded less for more effort right now compared to other similar objectives. Your comparison is bad.
We can't expect full Rewards all the time for logging on a few minutes a day.
Could you show some respect to what people are saying instead of minimising their thoughts and opinions into “I want all rewards to be given for a few minutes effort”.

Yes. If there was a benchmark for respect, it would be the way you interact with me.

Searmenis · September 2021

From my point of view, a game should be all about skills, not time. But, the game lately targets people who don't have time, so they have to pay for stuff. If you do have the time, you can grind, do the same boring -not fun as a game supposed to be- stuff over and over again for rewards. It s like a punishment for ftp players.

Ten fights/day or 100/week is no big deal for me personally, since I have a more flexible work schedule and can do a little Arenas here and there, but I really get the frustration of it. And arenas, are no fun, getting the same battles over and over again because, don't know, the ai system decides I have to fight against King Groot-Fisk-Green Goblin 5-6 times in a row, if you say it is, you re lying.

BitterSteel · September 2021

GroundedWisdom said:

BitterSteel said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ItsDamien said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?
Because we're being rewarded less for more effort right now compared to other similar objectives. Your comparison is bad.
We can't expect full Rewards all the time for logging on a few minutes a day.
Could you show some respect to what people are saying instead of minimising their thoughts and opinions into “I want all rewards to be given for a few minutes effort”.
Yes. If there was a benchmark for respect, it would be the way you interact with me.

Respect like saying someone is dramatic? Petulant? Spoiled? All words you've used to describe me. Is that the benchmark you're referring to? I'm not interested in getting into a he said she said debate, but just think on that.

GroundedWisdom · September 2021

BitterSteel said:

GroundedWisdom said:

BitterSteel said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ItsDamien said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?
Because we're being rewarded less for more effort right now compared to other similar objectives. Your comparison is bad.
We can't expect full Rewards all the time for logging on a few minutes a day.
Could you show some respect to what people are saying instead of minimising their thoughts and opinions into “I want all rewards to be given for a few minutes effort”.
Yes. If there was a benchmark for respect, it would be the way you interact with me.
Respect like saying someone is dramatic? Petulant? Spoiled? All words you've used to describe me. Is that the benchmark you're referring to? I'm not interested in getting into a he said she said debate, but just think on that.

Never called you that at all. I talked about views being petulant and people being spoiled. Not once have I directed that at you.

BitterSteel · September 2021

GroundedWisdom said:

BitterSteel said:

GroundedWisdom said:

BitterSteel said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ItsDamien said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Jaded said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Konstant45 said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:

BitterSteel said:

Pulyaman said:
I am not sure what the players want.
Shang chi quest. Too roster specific.
Summer of pain. Too easy or too hard.
Side quest too grind.
Summoner event. Too complicated.
When are people going to accept that not everything can be tailored made to enjoy for every single player. I accept that some complaints are very valid. But, no event will satisfy every single player. For arena grinder like me, this event is not that bad. I agree that it cannot be autoplayed like last week. But we cannot expect every week to be like that. I adjusted my gameplay a little and I finished the 4 and 5 star ones very easily. I can finish the 6 star ones after arena resets and can autoplay the 3 star one.
People will always give feedback, and yes, Kabam will never get a side quest that people universally like. However, this seems to be one that a vast majority dislike. I mean, if you don't take a forum post that has 74 agrees and 2 disagrees as proof that this event isn't very liked I'm not sure what you do. Not to mention the data will likely speak for itself, people are abstaining from doing this because it's boring. I am, I've seen many posts and comments saying the same. Reddit doesn't like it either.

People don't like grinding, it's why not as many people play arena as they do event quest for example. Your defence of this event is "It's not that bad", you think that's a pro of it. I think that's a monumental con. You're thinking about a 2 month event in a mobile video game and saying, oh I guess it's not that bad. Why can't we have events that we think, wow I can't wait to log on and do this! Instead of sighing and thinking, better log on and grind for hours to get these 150 6* shards so I don't miss out on next weeks hours of grinding. Which do you think has a better influence on how people view the game?

I really don't get the point of "people complain about everything, I don't know what they want/why do kabam try/ why even do anything". Do you realise that different people are complaining about summer of pain being too easy/too hard, summoner event to complicated, shang chi quest too specific? Please tell me you get that, it's a very simple point.

When the majority of people complain about the same thing, that's when you know there is definitely something wrong. At some point you've got to ask yourself is this event fun, and if it isn't, then you've got to think about the point of a video game.

I understand that people don't like grinding. The disagrees are proof of that. But I am not sure how kabam can dish out event after event of easy rewards. The in out challenge was one of the easiest I have seen. 3 fights for a 5 star crystal. But, it seems to be a overwhelming amount of negative comment for something that can actually be completed relatively easily. If every event was like this, I will definitely agree. But some events are grindy while some are fun. For me, sop was very good for the rewards, in out challenge was just a giveaway and shang chi challenge was easy with the right champs, but doable with a relatively good roster. Summoner event after the grace days is not that bad for free rewards. But, I could actually see the same people complain about every one or these events which makes no sense. These are vastly different events with different requirements from players. How can you not like any of the events and still play the game?. The reason I decided to post my opinion that it is not all doom and gloom. It's a side quest extending over 2 months. Last week was too easy, It was just use a set of champs to defeat certain times. This week is a little more grindy. Next week could again be easy. So, it is better to wait before washing our hands of this event altogether like some have done.
But you’re not getting my point. People will complain about everything. Yes, but it’s some,not all. So the argument of people complain about everything so we shouldn’t listen to the complaints, is a terrible argument. Because that begs the question when do you ever listen to complaints and change something?

If you don’t listen to an overall point of complaining because some people are complaining, then that means you don’t get to ever listen to feedback unless it’s unanimous.

Nobody is saying we should have an event that is great for everyone, and I agree that people would complain about almost every single event. That’s simply the nature of the game’s player base.

But equally, this objective based event is not fun and people are giving their feedback. Not to mention this will mean 3 months in a row of these grinding, objective events. A quarter of a year. You saying “we should wait to see what the rest are like” is quite incredibly missing the point.
Never said kabam should stop listening to complains. That is what the forums is for after all. But, I am seeing the same people complain about everything which is a little crazy. We have had both grindy and good events mixed together. No idea what point I am missing though. If I don't find something fun, I simply don't play it. That is why I uninstalled fure revolution after 1 hr. I just don't see the point of complaining about every event and still continue to play the game. These objectives don't even need you to go out of the way and do it like last month. You can simply do it while doing regular arena grinding or questing.
Its a video game, you are supposed to have fun. Where in the world do you think people will have the time to do 100 fights against 6 stars ending with a special attack in a week? And yes a week because there are other objectives for further weeks too. The fact that you consider that grindy events 3 months in a row is a good thing is beyond me. I dont know how many arena grinders i will offend by saying this, but its simple, arena grinders have too much time on their hands. The rest of the playerbase doesn't, they have stuff to do irl too. The entire summoner appreciation jazz has been beyond me too.
You're asking a guy who forgets to eat his lunch because he has places to be and people to meet and work to be get done, do 10 fights everyday? What? I can login, it takes a tap, 10 fights dont take a tap.
The general direction of where this game is heading is abysmal, kabam needs to put this ideology of "people playing this game have too much time in their hands" aside and actually do something that the vast majority of playerbase enjoy.
If i login for 20 mins everyday, i wanna login to have fun, not grind fights. Gives me no pleasure.

Kabam needs to know that they have by far one of the most loyal playerbase and im not even capping. People have stick to this game for over 3 months of bugs and lag issues and showed their general concern over the forums, ready to talk to the devs 1 on 1.

And what does kabam give us back in return? Yeah this grindy set of objectives. And oh dont use the "compensation" card on me, i dont have a use of those AT ALL. I still have 3 war compensation packages sitting in my inventory unclaimed because they will go to overflow and eventually expire. I play war in a very low tier alliance which is very stressfree, we dont earn much rewards but its quite fun being in a small alliance and so i have literally 0 deaths so far because the fights are just too easy. Where am i supposed to use the compensation package then? You know what i and the rest of the playerbase could use? Some actual ingame questing revives because those are what the vast majority of people need atm.

People will complain but people will also appreciate, there were so many players that showed their gathered happiness and enjoyment over sop when it ended, why are you ignoring them? If people complain then they also appreciate.
Fun is subjective, and it entirely depends on what people call fun. I understand there's a point where it goes too far. No arguments with that. However, it's also a game that rewards time and effort. It's perfecty understandable that people have other obligations. That doesn’t entitle them to Rewards for less time and effort.
I get that it's not a job, but let's go with that example. Johnny Coworker stays late, works extra hours, and puts in more time than me because I have a family and other things to be home for. Should I get paid the same amount as Johnny? The answer is no. People who put more time and effort in earn more. That's not a design flaw. It's called getting what you put into it.
Yeah tell that to all the salary working managers out there. More work and time doesn’t always equate to earning more in your pocket. Work smart not harder. You just described something that is wrong with society and tried to implement it as procedures in a game. If this was the case all the officers and leaders in the game should have way better accounts then those that don’t do those extra jobs/responsibilities.
You apparently never got the point of the example. The gist of it is, people who have more time to put in the effort earn more. Why should people be more rewarded for less effort?
Because we're being rewarded less for more effort right now compared to other similar objectives. Your comparison is bad.
We can't expect full Rewards all the time for logging on a few minutes a day.
Could you show some respect to what people are saying instead of minimising their thoughts and opinions into “I want all rewards to be given for a few minutes effort”.
Yes. If there was a benchmark for respect, it would be the way you interact with me.
Respect like saying someone is dramatic? Petulant? Spoiled? All words you've used to describe me. Is that the benchmark you're referring to? I'm not interested in getting into a he said she said debate, but just think on that.
Never called you that at all. I talked about views being petulant and people being spoiled. Not once have I directed that at you.

Like I said, not interested. Try and stay on topic please.

The grind is real I guess

Comments