State of the Game - Sept 2021

https://youtu.be/-fu6BeULRFg

As you can see, Brian Grant of ContestChampion.com has made a video regarding the state of the game, a lot of points being made I agree on. I like to believe what started this was BrutalDLX’s decision to play that game in a more casual way instead of retirement.

There are things that I’d like to address and I hope you guys can provide your thoughts toward the State of MCOC in September 2021. This coming December will officially bring the game to its 7th year. And while having that as a milestone is great, it may shock you that some things have never changed within those seven years.

Alliance Quest - I agree with BG on this where although AQ can be stale and monotonous because it’s the same thing every week, it’s good to have something as stable as AQ where you log in for a few minutes, fight, earn rewards, job is done. This can be particularly frustrating for people who work full time jobs and cannot be bothered by being forced to take a bathroom break for AQ so I do hope that changes in the future.

Alliance War - There was a Dev Note describing how AW would be overhauled from the ground up. However, all we’ve seen are Defense Tactics and Attack Tactics being added, which provided no meaningful value to the AW experience except to cause more frustration. Although this overhaul of AW may still be in development, all we ask is communication - how is the development process? Do you like it as it is? Do you think we would like it? etc. AW Seasons as it is is not enough.

Champion Acquisition - BrutalDLX said it best, I believe, when he said champion acquisition has become too costly and too time consuming. For those arena grinders, having to deal with bots is another issue.

Not only that, but having the player base wait for months just for the champion to be added to the basic pool is ridiculous. On top of that, we have the RNG factor to consider too. I’m not saying that RNG should be removed or how these crystals operate should change, I am asking for an addition to these so I can feel like I’m working towards something. Whether it takes 2-3 months, if I have to log in every day or every week (to work towards this goal) so I can be able to pick up the champion I desire - I would seriously love and appreciate that.

These are some of my thoughts. I’m sure there are other concerns such as Content (Event Quest, Side Quest, Variants, Everest Content, Story Content, etc.) So I would like to know your thoughts about the State of MCOC in 2021.

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Riptide

"brian grant of contestchampion.nevermind"

What happened to his website?

FlyGalaxyBomb

Though war is fun, would be amazing to see it overhauled and hopefully they do a good job doing it lol

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Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

This was most definitely not started by BrutalDLX’s vid, I really saw an issue when Seatin stopped uploading as frequently. He’s the biggest MCOC creator and he just decided to take a step back. That just shows me the game losing peoples’ interest and attention

Colinwhitworth69

BG has a right to his opinion, as do all of us.

I stopped watching his video about 20 minutes in because 1) all he talked about were obv problems we all know about already, and 2) almost completely ignored anything good about the game.

And there is a lot good to say about MCOC. But no one wants to hear that. Instead they use tis forum as a therapy session to bare their tortured souls and explain how they've been wrecked by a free mobile video game.

I want the bugs fixed, too. It's software. It's complicated. Bugs happen. I don't let it create existential crises or jump to conclusions that the game is dying or threaten to quit. I'm just here to have fun playing MCOC. So far mission accomplished.

VanillaCoke

Though war is fun, would be amazing to see it overhauled and hopefully they do a good job doing it lol

Same here, but unfortunately they’ve stopped communication regarding their dev diaries update. I understand the past month being dedicated to fixing the bugs, but I’m not sure why we haven’t heard from them beforehand

Hoitado

BG has a right to his opinion, as do all of us.

I stopped watching his video about 20 minutes in because 1) all he talked about were obv problems we all know about already, and 2) almost completely ignored anything good about the game.

And there is a lot good to say about MCOC. But no one wants to hear that. Instead they use tis forum as a therapy session to bare their tortured souls and explain how they've been wrecked by a free mobile video game.

I want the bugs fixed, too. It's software. It's complicated. Bugs happen. I don't let it create existential crises or jump to conclusions that the game is dying or threaten to quit. I'm just here to have fun playing MCOC. So far mission accomplished.

Definitely disagree with you there but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I mean it’s kind of hard to find something good about the game that hasn’t been good all along. The game as he said is very stale atm. I’ve drastically cut down my playtime because there simply isn’t much to do especially with the Parry Dex bug because it will probably cost resources and I don’t want to have to spend resources and units every time I do a quest

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VanillaCoke

This was most definitely not started by BrutalDLX’s vid, I really saw an issue when Seatin stopped uploading as frequently. He’s the biggest MCOC creator and he just decided to take a step back. That just shows me the game losing peoples’ interest and attention

You may have missed the timing but BrutalDLX announced his “Account Status” on August 20th. BG made a Twitter post about the State of the Game on August 21st.

Not to mention, back in August SOP was around and you can see that Seatin was posting content. What has Seatin hooked now is NFT’s - add on top of the fact that this game isn’t in its best state - we can see why Seatin has taken a step back from content creation.

Hoitado

This was most definitely not started by BrutalDLX’s vid, I really saw an issue when Seatin stopped uploading as frequently. He’s the biggest MCOC creator and he just decided to take a step back. That just shows me the game losing peoples’ interest and attention
seatin is the not biggest, just one of the first, and certainly not one of the best - his absence doesnt show anything, but him pivoting from his main source of income

He is the biggest MCoC YouTuber

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Hoitado

i felt his video was pretty accurate. except i hate when he goes on nerfing champs

For real 😂

I don’t want my Ghost to be weak.

HarleyQuinnFan

BG has a right to his opinion, as do all of us.

I stopped watching his video about 20 minutes in because 1) all he talked about were obv problems we all know about already, and 2) almost completely ignored anything good about the game.

And there is a lot good to say about MCOC. But no one wants to hear that. Instead they use tis forum as a therapy session to bare their tortured souls and explain how they've been wrecked by a free mobile video game.

I want the bugs fixed, too. It's software. It's complicated. Bugs happen. I don't let it create existential crises or jump to conclusions that the game is dying or threaten to quit. I'm just here to have fun playing MCOC. So far mission accomplished.

Lol..ya it is software, bugs happen. But do you know what testing means.. Most of these bugs should have been caught in Testing phase itself, you would know this if you are into software development cycle..

Atleast 8 out of 10 side quests are released with bugs..and some bugs in games exist for months..like persistent charge bugs.. And there was no proper response/update on this.. Except for Standard response "Please fill out form with your device details" bs..

VanillaCoke

i felt his video was pretty accurate. except i hate when he goes on nerfing champs

I think he mentioned nerfing champions because of how Kabam is approaching that. For example, True Focus - Kabam’s line of thinking was probably “How can we limit Ghost and Quake, without actually nerfing their abilities?” which unfortunately renders every other champion who evades/has a miss mechanic useless against this node.

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Bahubali

Agree..with most of them..

Especially, Champion Acquisition is real pain.. with game moving more towards 6* R4, it is still hard to acquire good 6* champs from 200+ champ pool..

And gap between 6* Champion release and Basic pool addition is a joke.. 6-7 months to get added to basic pool.. and by the time I pull it from basic pool.. it can be more than an year..

As per dev diary, a "Wish Crystal" was planned.. it didnt come out yet due to dev issues..which is understandable considering the design.. Instead, 6* dual class crystals can be planned..

Gamer

If this was a moba game and ghost ext in the game I’m wil cry

GroundedWisdom

BG has a right to his opinion, as do all of us.

I stopped watching his video about 20 minutes in because 1) all he talked about were obv problems we all know about already, and 2) almost completely ignored anything good about the game.

And there is a lot good to say about MCOC. But no one wants to hear that. Instead they use tis forum as a therapy session to bare their tortured souls and explain how they've been wrecked by a free mobile video game.

I want the bugs fixed, too. It's software. It's complicated. Bugs happen. I don't let it create existential crises or jump to conclusions that the game is dying or threaten to quit. I'm just here to have fun playing MCOC. So far mission accomplished.

Definitely disagree with you there but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I mean it’s kind of hard to find something good about the game that hasn’t been good all along. The game as he said is very stale atm. I’ve drastically cut down my playtime because there simply isn’t much to do especially with the Parry Dex bug because it will probably cost resources and I don’t want to have to spend resources and units every time I do a quest

Granted, it varies from person-to-person, but I haven't seen any aspect of said bugs that has stopped people from playing completely. It's been pretty smooth in the last couple weeks.
Colin is also correct. There are a great deal of positives about the game. Positives which obviously outweigh the negatives, or we wouldn't all be here.
No offense to BG, but I am over the whole State of the Game movement. We don't need to list every problem with some ominous tone just to highlight that there are problems. There are always some kind of problems going on. Nothing will ever be perfect. The choice is, do we look at things realistically, or do we amass a bunch of negatives and build a disdain? Both are a choice.

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

This was most definitely not started by BrutalDLX’s vid, I really saw an issue when Seatin stopped uploading as frequently. He’s the biggest MCOC creator and he just decided to take a step back. That just shows me the game losing peoples’ interest and attention
seatin is the not biggest, just one of the first, and certainly not one of the best - his absence doesnt show anything, but him pivoting from his main source of income

Who else has 300K subs and does MCOC content

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

BG has a right to his opinion, as do all of us.

I stopped watching his video about 20 minutes in because 1) all he talked about were obv problems we all know about already, and 2) almost completely ignored anything good about the game.

And there is a lot good to say about MCOC. But no one wants to hear that. Instead they use tis forum as a therapy session to bare their tortured souls and explain how they've been wrecked by a free mobile video game.

I want the bugs fixed, too. It's software. It's complicated. Bugs happen. I don't let it create existential crises or jump to conclusions that the game is dying or threaten to quit. I'm just here to have fun playing MCOC. So far mission accomplished.

Definitely disagree with you there but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I mean it’s kind of hard to find something good about the game that hasn’t been good all along. The game as he said is very stale atm. I’ve drastically cut down my playtime because there simply isn’t much to do especially with the Parry Dex bug because it will probably cost resources and I don’t want to have to spend resources and units every time I do a quest
Granted, it varies from person-to-person, but I haven't seen any aspect of said bugs that has stopped people from playing completely. It's been pretty smooth in the last couple weeks.
Colin is also correct. There are a great deal of positives about the game. Positives which obviously outweigh the negatives, or we wouldn't all be here.
No offense to BG, but I am over the whole State of the Game movement. We don't need to list every problem with some ominous tone just to highlight that there are problems. There are always some kind of problems going on. Nothing will ever be perfect. The choice is, do we look at things realistically, or do we amass a bunch of negatives and build a disdain? Both are a choice.

Even though it seems harsh I do actually agree with this, these things are brought up all the time by people trying to bring changes that simply are impossible for Kabam to implement at the speed these players want

Shadowstrike

BG has a right to his opinion, as do all of us.

I stopped watching his video about 20 minutes in because 1) all he talked about were obv problems we all know about already, and 2) almost completely ignored anything good about the game.

And there is a lot good to say about MCOC. But no one wants to hear that. Instead they use tis forum as a therapy session to bare their tortured souls and explain how they've been wrecked by a free mobile video game.

I want the bugs fixed, too. It's software. It's complicated. Bugs happen. I don't let it create existential crises or jump to conclusions that the game is dying or threaten to quit. I'm just here to have fun playing MCOC. So far mission accomplished.

Definitely disagree with you there but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I mean it’s kind of hard to find something good about the game that hasn’t been good all along. The game as he said is very stale atm. I’ve drastically cut down my playtime because there simply isn’t much to do especially with the Parry Dex bug because it will probably cost resources and I don’t want to have to spend resources and units every time I do a quest
Granted, it varies from person-to-person, but I haven't seen any aspect of said bugs that has stopped people from playing completely. It's been pretty smooth in the last couple weeks.
Colin is also correct. There are a great deal of positives about the game. Positives which obviously outweigh the negatives, or we wouldn't all be here.
No offense to BG, but I am over the whole State of the Game movement. We don't need to list every problem with some ominous tone just to highlight that there are problems. There are always some kind of problems going on. Nothing will ever be perfect. The choice is, do we look at things realistically, or do we amass a bunch of negatives and build a disdain? Both are a choice.
Even though it seems harsh I do actually agree with this, these things are brought up all the time by people trying to bring changes that simply are impossible for Kabam to implement at the speed these players want

That's always going to be the main problem.. We don't want the world tomorrow, we want the world today and we don't want the world today, we wanted it 10 minutes ago..

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Kerneas

I really wish therewas some way for us to get hands on new champs. Like the 2*/3* gifts we got. I have very fond memories of feeling like actually being a part of the new content.

Even if the champ acquisition was a temporary promo, imo it'd help us feel more connected to the newly released stuff. Consider it a limited time demo

Malreck04

This was most definitely not started by BrutalDLX’s vid, I really saw an issue when Seatin stopped uploading as frequently. He’s the biggest MCOC creator and he just decided to take a step back. That just shows me the game losing peoples’ interest and attention
seatin is the not biggest, just one of the first, and certainly not one of the best - his absence doesnt show anything, but him pivoting from his main source of income
Who else has 300K subs and does MCOC content
star in sky /s
How, rather, why, is he still uncollected? I get kind of irritated but click on his vids nevertheless, guess that makes him a decent youtuber, even if the content is trash it's the clicks that matter.
he plays other games (i dont know which, i dont recognise) and has been posting for a long time maybe.. but his mcoc and marvel knowledge is hilarious.. i dont blame you for getting irritated XD also his skills are through the roof

Yeah this is true I guess, his fanbase is really built around MK mobile I think, so his viewers enjoy whatever, which is understandable.

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VanillaCoke

BG has a right to his opinion, as do all of us.

I stopped watching his video about 20 minutes in because 1) all he talked about were obv problems we all know about already, and 2) almost completely ignored anything good about the game.

And there is a lot good to say about MCOC. But no one wants to hear that. Instead they use tis forum as a therapy session to bare their tortured souls and explain how they've been wrecked by a free mobile video game.

I want the bugs fixed, too. It's software. It's complicated. Bugs happen. I don't let it create existential crises or jump to conclusions that the game is dying or threaten to quit. I'm just here to have fun playing MCOC. So far mission accomplished.

Definitely disagree with you there but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I mean it’s kind of hard to find something good about the game that hasn’t been good all along. The game as he said is very stale atm. I’ve drastically cut down my playtime because there simply isn’t much to do especially with the Parry Dex bug because it will probably cost resources and I don’t want to have to spend resources and units every time I do a quest
Granted, it varies from person-to-person, but I haven't seen any aspect of said bugs that has stopped people from playing completely. It's been pretty smooth in the last couple weeks.
Colin is also correct. There are a great deal of positives about the game. Positives which obviously outweigh the negatives, or we wouldn't all be here.
No offense to BG, but I am over the whole State of the Game movement. We don't need to list every problem with some ominous tone just to highlight that there are problems. There are always some kind of problems going on. Nothing will ever be perfect. The choice is, do we look at things realistically, or do we amass a bunch of negatives and build a disdain? Both are a choice.

We’re listing the problems in hopes that Kabam will address them, not to beat a dead horse. A follow up Dev Diary would certainly alleviate some of these concerns.

Demonzfyre

Though war is fun, would be amazing to see it overhauled and hopefully they do a good job doing it lol
Same here, but unfortunately they’ve stopped communication regarding their dev diaries update. I understand the past month being dedicated to fixing the bugs, but I’m not sure why we haven’t heard from them beforehand

Dev Diaries aren't supposed to be a monthly thing. Those road maps are long term plans. They never said there'd be monthly updates.

VanillaCoke

Though war is fun, would be amazing to see it overhauled and hopefully they do a good job doing it lol
Same here, but unfortunately they’ve stopped communication regarding their dev diaries update. I understand the past month being dedicated to fixing the bugs, but I’m not sure why we haven’t heard from them beforehand
Dev Diaries aren't supposed to be a monthly thing. Those road maps are long term plans. They never said there'd be monthly updates.

Who said they were supposed to be monthly? Why are you assuming?

Demonzfyre

This was most definitely not started by BrutalDLX’s vid, I really saw an issue when Seatin stopped uploading as frequently. He’s the biggest MCOC creator and he just decided to take a step back. That just shows me the game losing peoples’ interest and attention

Seatin stopped uploading a lot due to everything he was wanting to do. Moving to his own place, picking up those anime games, now hes doing NFT/Crypto things. He's just busy.