Awful 6* Champions

LesktheGlut_666LesktheGlut_666 Member Posts: 84 ★
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Can someone from Kabam please explain to me what use a 6* Joe Fix It is..?
I must have every meme champion as a 6* with many awakened, do you really hate the player's that much..?

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  • Scarcity27Scarcity27 Member Posts: 1,906 ★★★★★
    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    The_Sentry06 said:

    It's your luck. Other players have awakened Ghosts. It's all just rng.

    I appreciate that, I just don't understand why such a useless pathetic champion has been placed in the reel other than to destroy player's interest in the game.
    Yes, but what would be the point of the game if every champion in every crystal was game-breaking?
  • ChobblyChobbly Member Posts: 972 ★★★★
    Scarcity27 said:

    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    The_Sentry06 said:

    It's your luck. Other players have awakened Ghosts. It's all just rng.

    I appreciate that, I just don't understand why such a useless pathetic champion has been placed in the reel other than to destroy player's interest in the game.
    Yes, but what would be the point of the game if every champion in every crystal was game-breaking?
    Game breaking as a separate point, but a decent chunk of the 6* pool has limited or diminished ability to help the Summoner to compete content apart from use in the Arena.

    It's luck, as hard as that is sometimes. What you see posted on the forums is a skewed persistence of reality - for every good 6* champ from a pull that is posted here or elsewhere, someone has pulled a Juggernaut or an Iron Patriot.

    Better luck next time, OP.
  • LesktheGlut_666LesktheGlut_666 Member Posts: 84 ★
    Chobbly said:

    Scarcity27 said:

    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    The_Sentry06 said:

    It's your luck. Other players have awakened Ghosts. It's all just rng.

    I appreciate that, I just don't understand why such a useless pathetic champion has been placed in the reel other than to destroy player's interest in the game.
    Yes, but what would be the point of the game if every champion in every crystal was game-breaking?
    Game breaking as a separate point, but a decent chunk of the 6* pool has limited or diminished ability to help the Summoner to compete content apart from use in the Arena.

    It's luck, as hard as that is sometimes. What you see posted on the forums is a skewed persistence of reality - for every good 6* champ from a pull that is posted here or elsewhere, someone has pulled a Juggernaut or an Iron Patriot.

    Better luck next time, OP.
    Exactly, I completely agree, thankyou for a sensible response. I am frustrated no denying that just can't see any good coming out of meme champs in 6* crystals.
  • Ps_cr7Ps_cr7 Member Posts: 296 ★★
    Agree with you bro, every character should be decent, to be used atleast in quests. But even Dr. Strange has nothing going for him, and dupe makes him little better, but when dr. Strange is like that, I am not surprised with kabam product team.
  • LesktheGlut_666LesktheGlut_666 Member Posts: 84 ★
    Ps_cr7 said:

    Agree with you bro, every character should be decent, to be used atleast in quests. But even Dr. Strange has nothing going for him, and dupe makes him little better, but when dr. Strange is like that, I am not surprised with kabam product team.

    Yep..a champion can be useable without being god tier, the opportunity of useless in the 6* crystal for me should be removed.
  • No_oneukNo_oneuk Member Posts: 1,430 ★★★★★
    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    Kerneas said:

    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    The_Sentry06 said:

    It's your luck. Other players have awakened Ghosts. It's all just rng.

    I appreciate that, I just don't understand why such a useless pathetic champion has been placed in the reel other than to destroy player's interest in the game.
    That is how it works. There are good pulls and there are bad pulls. 6* crystals are easy to obtain these days. The game would be incredibly boring if we all got just the good champs.

    The business model is "you play for a CHANCE at good champ. Spin the wheel more times, get better chance at pulling what you want". If we all pulled just the good stuff, Kabam's profit would drop like crazy, because noone would buy excessive amounts of crystals anymore.

    If you fundamentally disagree with this business model, go play some other game, I am sorry. The core of this game is random pulls. Always has been.
    You are missing my point, no issue with so so 6* but completely useless is really not funny. As patronising as your comment is, I've no need to find another game and know full well how it works. Personally 6* crystals aren't easy to come by, I am not a whale and play for the enjoyment pretty much since it started, I'm just questioning the logic of placing some champions in the crystal that will NEVER be of any use
    They aren't saying you don't understand the game, they're saying that if getting bad luck makes you go to the forums and whine and complain, then perhaps playing a luck based game isn't really in your best interests. I don't understand why people who seem to take these things so personally make the conscious decision to play a game that they know will upset them at points when there are thousands and thousands of games that don't involve luck they could opt to play instead.
  • KerneasKerneas Member Posts: 3,843 ★★★★★
    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    Kerneas said:

    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    The_Sentry06 said:

    It's your luck. Other players have awakened Ghosts. It's all just rng.

    I appreciate that, I just don't understand why such a useless pathetic champion has been placed in the reel other than to destroy player's interest in the game.
    That is how it works. There are good pulls and there are bad pulls. 6* crystals are easy to obtain these days. The game would be incredibly boring if we all got just the good champs.

    The business model is "you play for a CHANCE at good champ. Spin the wheel more times, get better chance at pulling what you want". If we all pulled just the good stuff, Kabam's profit would drop like crazy, because noone would buy excessive amounts of crystals anymore.

    If you fundamentally disagree with this business model, go play some other game, I am sorry. The core of this game is random pulls. Always has been.
    You are missing my point, no issue with so so 6* but completely useless is really not funny. As patronising as your comment is, I've no need to find another game and know full well how it works. Personally 6* crystals aren't easy to come by, I am not a whale and play for the enjoyment pretty much since it started, I'm just questioning the logic of placing some champions in the crystal that will NEVER be of any use
    Opening 2-3 6*s a month is "easy to obtain" for me, but I understand that isn't the case for everyone, sorry.

    Noone likes to pull the absolute bottom of champs, and I have had my fair share of them as well. But I really don't see a reason why they shouldn't be represented in the 6* pool. The quality of champions follows "gaussean distribution", the most champs are mediocre and only few are super good/super bad (few relative to the amount of mediocre ones).

    For a fair competition, this gaussean distribution is required. It'd be unfair if you spun a wheel with 90% terrible and 10% good. Fair is sth like 10% great, 15% good, 50% mediocre, 15% bad, 10% terrible. I know tierlists suck but let's look at them: there is a certain majority of mediocre champs, as there should be. Then look at the both extremes. Normal gaussean distribution should be symmetrical (same amount of absolute best and absolute worst, like in the % example I gave above). In this game, there are much more extremely good champs than the extremely bad ones.

    All I wanna say is, that while I understand your frustration, the crystals already contain more good than bad. And the champion buff program shifts this every month more and more toward the better end. So it's not true that your Joe will NEVER be used.

    I feel like you disagree with there being extremely bad champs, but you have no problem with the extremely good ones. Naturally, we are only human and this is in our nature. But please try to believe this way it is fair, every hazard game has the total trash. That trash is also unlikely to be pulled because these are rarely represented in the pool. There are like 25/200. It indeed isn't funny to pull the worst. But I dare say that 6*s are easy enough to obtain, that it's unreasonable to be so salty about pulling a bad one.
  • Bala_riyz01Bala_riyz01 Member Posts: 145 ★
    Mine 1st 6star was she hulk before 2yrs think so after a year she got a buff she is op now ! Wait for the time joe too shine one day
  • Mother_FlerkenMother_Flerken Member Posts: 510 ★★★
    edited September 2021
    Bala_riyz01 said:

    Mine 1st 6star was she hulk before 2yrs think so after a year she got a buff she is op now ! Wait for the time joe too shine one day

    Yeah no lol she hulk wasn't even available as a 6* before her buff let alone 2 yrs ago.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    Scarcity27 said:

    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    The_Sentry06 said:

    It's your luck. Other players have awakened Ghosts. It's all just rng.

    I appreciate that, I just don't understand why such a useless pathetic champion has been placed in the reel other than to destroy player's interest in the game.
    Yes, but what would be the point of the game if every champion in every crystal was game-breaking?
    Every champion doesn't have to be breathtaking but surely the work involved in collecting 6* shard's should reward you with at least a half useful champion.
    Not every crystal is going to be a game changer but filling the 6* pool with pointless champions only serves to frustrate rather than entice..?
    Kabam agree with you, that’s why they’re doing the buff program. To make sure there are less champions that are useless, and to stop the sting of pulling a non-god tier champ.
  • MoosetiptronicMoosetiptronic Member Posts: 2,165 ★★★★
    Kerneas said:

    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    The_Sentry06 said:

    It's your luck. Other players have awakened Ghosts. It's all just rng.

    I appreciate that, I just don't understand why such a useless pathetic champion has been placed in the reel other than to destroy player's interest in the game.
    That is how it works. There are good pulls and there are bad pulls. 6* crystals are easy to obtain these days. The game would be incredibly boring if we all got just the good champs.

    The business model is "you play for a CHANCE at good champ. Spin the wheel more times, get better chance at pulling what you want". If we all pulled just the good stuff, Kabam's profit would drop like crazy, because noone would buy excessive amounts of crystals anymore.

    If you fundamentally disagree with this business model, go play some other game, I am sorry. The core of this game is GAMBLING. Always has been.
    there, fixed it for you ;-)

    To @LesktheGlut_666 on the slim potential upside, Joe is in line for a fix, excuse the pun, given he's so bad he's only genuinely useful in the poison cav EQ for science and needs a lot of heavy attacks and rng to get spades, to make him workable in the others.

    But at least on that he has some base kit which will make him interesting and easier to buff than say og cap or ww2 cap, who need complete overhauls and rhino or sentry who have no skills that enable them to function as a science champ.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,167 ★★★★★
    edited September 2021
    Fixit has been a meme tier champ pretty much since introduction. I remember three consecutive 4* crystals that yielded Joe right after he joined the basic. That hurt.

    He’s actually one of Kabam’s first forays into rotation champs (land a heavy, change the buff) and isn’t a terrible champ design overall. Conceptually, I like the concept of heavying to reroll abilities as the situation changes.

    The problem is that (1) his suits (buffs) don’t do much at all relative to today’s game and (2) as a bleed champ, his damage is totally underwhelming. Add to that the fact that he does nothing in the way of AAR or other fancy stuff today’s champs do and you’ve got 100% disappointment.

    Fixit should be on a buff shortlist somewhere—behind Iron Fist and Karnak and Juggs—but not far behind.

    Dr. Zola
  • FluffyPigMonsterFluffyPigMonster Member Posts: 2,069 ★★★★★
    I’d argue that if every champ was OP, there would be less interest in the game overall

  • DiablordDiablord Member Posts: 603 ★★★
    all games that allow you to get a charecter by opening stuff have this issue,
    There is always a group of champion that are useless
  • BeastDadBeastDad Member Posts: 2,000 ★★★★★
    Diablord said:

    all games that allow you to get a charecter by opening stuff have this issue,
    There is always a group of champion that are useless

    Kabam’s other game, Transformers, would beg to differ.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,096 ★★★★★
    Congrats
  • goingtobeuncollectedgoingtobeuncollected Member Posts: 151 ★
    My dude every coin has two sides. Similarly every crystal has both good andbad champions. You can't expect to have beyond god tier champs if you dont want bad champs . Crystals in mcoc are a gamble and it has always been. It will continue to be as well
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    LesktheGlut_666 said:

    The_Sentry06 said:

    It's your luck. Other players have awakened Ghosts. It's all just rng.

    I appreciate that, I just don't understand why such a useless pathetic champion has been placed in the reel other than to destroy player's interest in the game.
    This is why they started the rework/buff plan. Each month two more improved, albeit a few not so much but mostly they’ve been great improvements.
  • psp742psp742 Member Posts: 2,661 ★★★★
    Although I have large selection of 6* champions.. it still pains me to open a 6* and get the most meme champions that was ever introduced into the game.. like superior ironman, iron patriot.. I have larger pool because I used to whale out and open many cavalier crystals.. 6* luck was better then with the low 6* % compared to the newer improved 6* %.. moreso with the instability.. I am happy to stay f2p now.. grind arena for units and open cav from time to time.

    Who knows maybe kabam will buff Joe fixit and make him stronger than Hulk.. this game doesn't reflect what is in Marvel MCU or the comics.
  • goingtobeuncollectedgoingtobeuncollected Member Posts: 151 ★
    psp742 said:

    Although I have large selection of 6* champions.. it still pains me to open a 6* and get the most meme champions that was ever introduced into the game.. like superior ironman, iron patriot.. I have larger pool because I used to whale out and open many cavalier crystals.. 6* luck was better then with the low 6* % compared to the newer improved 6* %.. moreso with the instability.. I am happy to stay f2p now.. grind arena for units and open cav from time to time.

    Who knows maybe kabam will buff Joe fixit and make him stronger than Hulk.. this game doesn't reflect what is in Marvel MCU or the comics.

    Hey you are the one with the beyond god tier cavalier luck right ??
  • NOOOOOOOOPEEEEENOOOOOOOOPEEEEE Member Posts: 2,803 ★★★★★
    Hey Joe Fixit has a use



    Being there and waiting till he gets a buff
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