Should We Get Rank Down Ticket For Guillotine?

BeroManBeroMan Member Posts: 286 ★★★★
edited October 2021 in Suggestions and Requests
About Guillotine Buff/Nerf Situation...

Improvements:

1) Heal Reversal Mechanic - That's a big one, she has way better heal reversal now, I easily soloed Abyss Old Man Logan, I tried that fight before with her and it was not possible even with some synergies, now it's much, much easier. Not even comparable.

2) That's basically it.

Setbacks:

1) Removal of one of the most powerful sp.3 abilities in the game, flat 2% health damage per Soul. She even as 2* was doing mind-blowing damage with sp.3 if ramped up with synergies, now that's gone completely.

2) Regen - her healing is strong only in a specific fight where she gets some additional boosts on damage like against Grandmasyer or in heal reversal matchups like against Abyss Old Man Logan. In general fights, her new healing ability is quite mediocre, it was stronger before when duped... Now for example, if you fighting champion with 600K Health max healing you can get during that fight is 12K (2%) which is very very small healing in most situations.

3) Damage - She has the potential to get more damage if you can spam some heavy attacks before special attacks but that is not easy in the majority of match-ups if you play without that I have a feeling that her damage even got nerfed.

4) She got absolutely useless damage back ability by sp.1... I tested and it even does not work against Aggresive Fury/prowess nodes...No Electro-like cheese...It's purely defensive ability but I don't see anyone placing her on defense in high-tier war just because of that.

All of this seems especially confusing when in fact buffing her should have been very easy: she just needed her multiple old synergies being transferred as her base ability and she would be a very good champ without major changes.

Now we get some weird situation, I think, even worse than it was about Hood...I personally think that this buff warrants a Rank Down Ticket, I am personally not sure if I rank down my Rank 2 Guilly but when you implement Buff/nerf like this people must-have choice.
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Comments

  • IncroyableIncroyable Member Posts: 1
    I ranked her month ago and all changes are not really a buff. The damage outcome is not better and the healing is more or less useless...I never ever would rank this guilly up to R2. I dont like her anymore.
  • Killdisplayed_Killdisplayed_ Member Posts: 26
    It seems as though the dev didn't understand what made her great.
  • TeddersTedders Member Posts: 143 ★★
    People ranked her originally for her sp3 and that no longer does 2 percent for each soul so you can make the case she has been gutted....

    I doubt rank down tickets will ever happen, its just sad they did such a mediocre rework...I wont call it a buff because it is not
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    Highly doubtful.
  • JohnLocke117JohnLocke117 Member Posts: 500 ★★★
    BeroMan said:

    The buff is disappointing but rank down tickets are totally not needed. Ranking up champions before any buff details on hopes that it will turn out to be good is a bad practice. Do it if you love the champion, but this is like a gamble. Either it's a jackpot or a dud.

    except I ranked her even before her buff announced. I ranked her after Purgatory Synergy...https://youtu.be/dv_IDvRLho8

    Riptide said:

    Nope. No one forced you to rank her

    The buff is disappointing but rank down tickets are totally not needed. Ranking up champions before any buff details on hopes that it will turn out to be good is a bad practice. Do it if you love the champion, but this is like a gamble. Either it's a jackpot or a dud.

    I ranked up my Guilly to r4 and fed her a lot of sigs back when I was exploring Act 6. Well over a year before the buff was even announced. I don't think that rank down tickets are off the table. She is no longer the champ I ranked and, worse, she's much worse than the champ I ranked.
    Well I understand that this is coming out to be a case of being a nerf more than a buff as many people are preferring the old guilly over this new one. But we need to first convince kabam that this was a nerf not a buff haha
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    Riptide said:

    Nope. No one forced you to rank her

    The buff is disappointing but rank down tickets are totally not needed. Ranking up champions before any buff details on hopes that it will turn out to be good is a bad practice. Do it if you love the champion, but this is like a gamble. Either it's a jackpot or a dud.

    I ranked up my Guilly to r4 and fed her a lot of sigs back when I was exploring Act 6. Well over a year before the buff was even announced. I don't think that rank down tickets are off the table. She is no longer the champ I ranked and, worse, she's much worse than the champ I ranked.
    I used the same argument with Hood. There was no RDTs offered for him after his second buff attempt.
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  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    Riptide said:

    Nope. No one forced you to rank her

    The buff is disappointing but rank down tickets are totally not needed. Ranking up champions before any buff details on hopes that it will turn out to be good is a bad practice. Do it if you love the champion, but this is like a gamble. Either it's a jackpot or a dud.

    I ranked up my Guilly to r4 and fed her a lot of sigs back when I was exploring Act 6. Well over a year before the buff was even announced. I don't think that rank down tickets are off the table. She is no longer the champ I ranked and, worse, she's much worse than the champ I ranked.
    I used the same argument with Hood. There was no RDTs offered for him after his second buff attempt.
    Yeah I wouldn't hold my breath on this. I'm just glad I never took her or my six star one up any higher.
  • Shyam1234Shyam1234 Member Posts: 1
    It would be nice if they gave her any utility
  • RahultripathiRahultripathi Member Posts: 233 ★★
    I would rather ask for some changes to her nerf considering the work spent on her, if any.
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