Who is more worthy of a Generic Awakening Gem?

I have both CAIW and Archangel. Plan to take both to r5, have 4 to 5 gems for both, but will take up CAIW first. Now a dilemma arises over who I should awaken with the gem. Have had no luck with science and mutant gems, and I have only 1 generic gem. Also, I can only take up CAIW to sig 40, but will also contribute all gems towards him as it goes on. Who should I awaken with the generic? Also, what is the ideal sig for Archangel?

Comments

SpideyFunko

Ideal archangel sig is 112

DonDudu2809

For me personally there have been more situations where i used the Ability accuracy reduction from Archangel's sig than where i used Cap's sig. (Have both sig 200 it's just personal experience)

raviXsharma

Anyone saying ideal archangel sig is 112, it's ****. I've a sig 20 and he do wonders for me. Just go with it, no regrets, it's been months for me. I've CAIW sig 200 as well. Not bad but I'd go with archangel

TrashyPanda

Beardo's sig needs to be high for it to be reliable, AA just needs sig 1. Helps to have it over the 3-neuro threshold, but he doesn't need it.

Going further on Beardo and other high-sig champions, I'd suggest holding off on awakening them until you have enough stones to get their sig fairly close to max. It's not uncommon to naturally dupe a champ before you get their sig to a useful level, or even right after you awaken them.

Ps_cr7

Mine is at sig 30 and I am very happy with it

FlyGalaxyBomb

Considering you don't have much stones. AA over CAIW. Don't get me wrong but CAIW is amazing, but sig 40 ain't enough.

Halala

I have capiw and generic gem, i should use it for him or wait for other champs?

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pseudosane

capiw and sig200 is nice but you need sig200 for only one thing, the debuff shrugging.
I agree AA is the ideal choice, needs only sig1, but anyone saying capiw not worthy unless sig200 is not thinking it right.

BeastDad

At sig200 he’s my guy

Graves_3

capiw and sig200 is nice but you need sig200 for only one thing, the debuff shrugging.
I agree AA is the ideal choice, needs only sig1, but anyone saying capiw not worthy unless sig200 is not thinking it right.

You are absolutely right. Sig 200 cap IW starts with sig 1. For some people it will be a while before they can amass 200 stones. Awaken him and get the benefits of his utility right now and then keep building on his sig.

FlyGalaxyBomb

capiw and sig200 is nice but you need sig200 for only one thing, the debuff shrugging.
I agree AA is the ideal choice, needs only sig1, but anyone saying capiw not worthy unless sig200 is not thinking it right.

Agreed sig 40 is only 48.7% chance to apply debuffs and purify debufs. It's not the absolute worst but it is no where near the best.

Total_Domin01

I have capiw and generic gem, i should use it for him or wait for other champs?

You didn't tell us you have Karnak! Obvious choice right there

Halala

I have capiw and generic gem, i should use it for him or wait for other champs?

Wait for other champs. Use it on CapIW if you can take him to sig 200 right away.

I can take him to sig150-160 , is it worth

Halala

capiw and sig200 is nice but you need sig200 for only one thing, the debuff shrugging.
I agree AA is the ideal choice, needs only sig1, but anyone saying capiw not worthy unless sig200 is not thinking it right.
Agreed sig 40 is only 48.7% chance to apply debuffs and purify debufs. It's not the absolute worst but it is no where near the best.

I can take cap to sig150-160, is it worth if i use generic gem for him

pseudosane

capiw and sig200 is nice but you need sig200 for only one thing, the debuff shrugging.
I agree AA is the ideal choice, needs only sig1, but anyone saying capiw not worthy unless sig200 is not thinking it right.
Agreed sig 40 is only 48.7% chance to apply debuffs and purify debufs. It's not the absolute worst but it is no where near the best.
I can take cap to sig150-160, is it worth if i use generic gem for him

Yes. Capiw is a very useful tool in everyone's kit.

Jeal79

AA barely needs any sigs. He would be my choice for a gem.
CAIW ideally should have 200.

Oh, and on the whole sig 112 nonsense... This vid is worth a watch if you still believe he needs sig 112...

https://youtu.be/aKPXOt9QUlI

JuggerNot

AA at sig 1 is perfectly fine