Angela is better than cmm and kingpin is better than Moleman

CmmOverrated

Easily.

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Tru100

Duped Angela over CMM for sure, per the meta these days. Unduped might be debatable or edge to CMM for the burst damage.

I like KP over MM, still a lot more bleed immunes over degen immune or resistant. KP sp1 might be best in the game for all around combo of damage and utility. And he can play parry heavy or intercept style. Just more versatile across all game modes imo.

CmmOverrated

so increased binary wont increase cmm's damage overall?

CmmOverrated

Well my r3 6* hits like 12.5k mediums without armor breaks and like 26-27k heavies she can do it for the entire fight.
And i do have cmm

CmmOverrated

R3 6* angela btw

RavenKeeper

Angela, yes.
Kingpin with his synergy team? Also yes. Without synergy team? No.

AverageDesi

In a way. Longer uptime on binary means more time to actually do the fight instead of having to keep landing heavies to maintain binary.

I've used her extensively and without nick she's kinda meh and not reliable to use . But with nick she gets through all sorts of stuff

AverageDesi

I'd still say cmm is better. And kingpin is so much better than moleman

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This

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Jeal79

Play him right and he does. Trigger his frenzy before you go above 10 mass and then once frenzy is active you can use more heavies to take it up over 10 and the true accuracy will remain.

Skiddy212

Personally i love mole man and think hes way better than kingpin. I also love playing as mole man.

No comment on angela, i have no experience with her although i did just pull her as a 6 star....

Jaded

You need someone else to explain your opinion?
You don’t need NF, he just makes using her easier. He doesn’t increase her damage. I personally explored all of act 6 before I got a 5* or 6* NF and used her a ton. You can still have 100% binary up time without NF.

Cmm can also easily handle nodes that Angela can not. Like don’t go gentle or can’t stop won’t stop. Again, if you aren’t using her because you like a fake more then that’s fine. You’re missing out on a ton of positive but you do you little guy.

The_Sentry06

But that's what OP was hinting at in an earlier message? Also love the irony of you calling OP a kid but then randomnly insulting him/her for no reason other than having a different opinion to you. Triggered bunch? It's an opinion on a game jeez. Doesn't make someone a donkey just because they have a different opinion to you.

pseudosane

Here is your medal. Feel better.

Jaded

Different opinion then me? I didn’t state my opinion other then OP was wrong that cmm isn’t useful. I haven’t said anything about KP, Moleman or Angela. Merely said he is at a loss if he doesn’t use cmm. I use all 4, the game is big enough to find uses for them all. Only a child would come on here looking for disagrees, that’s the only opinion I shared within this thread. My comment about Angela was how I decided to dig at the OP but deep dive she has a lot going for her as well.

People here are too quick to make assumptions they completely miss what’s being said. OP is a child, he is talking out of his donkey I didn’t call him a donkey. It’s just a better word then what I’m not allowed to use. OP wasn’t hinting at anything but the lack of knowledge of cmm that they needed someone else to state what the synergy did. And they were both wrong still, NF doesn’t increase damage for cmm. She can have 100% up time on binary mode without him.

Snakep

I would say Angela over CMM. For the other, with suicides I’d lean moleman, without I’d say KP. I switch back and forth with suicides depending on war season so use both regularly, both are amazing.

mbrace

KP over Mole-man without suicides, but they are really close.

Jeal79

I think both comparisons (kingpin/MM - Angela/CMM) are very close so it seems a little silly for anybody to declare one being better than the other.

Individually we will all have slightly different fighting styles and mastery setups which were likely shaped by the way we grew into the game which is unique to everyone as we all aquire the champs in a different order.

There's places I'd take Angela over CMM and there's places I'd do the reverse. For me personally I'd lean closer towards CMM simply because she was my 2nd 6* champ in the game which means I've spent a lot of time using her and cleared a lot of content in the game with her. That's my personal opinion based on my experience. I'm definitely likely to defend her usefulness and question if the people who don't like her are using her correctly.

Same goes for KP/MM. I got my MM to R5 before KP so have used him a lot more generally, but there is room for both in your roster. I don't specifically think there's much between them but some fights you'd lean towards KP and then others it would be MM.

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CmmOverrated

Fax

CmmOverrated

Angela can handle nullify matchups,a lot of dot scenarios and auto block scenarios and the damage is close too.

CmmOverrated

Yes but thats a bug it shouldnt work like that he trades his utility for damage.enjoy till this bug isnt fixed.

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Camby01

Congrats on joining the forum yesterday! Hope everyone can give you a 2 day cheers in a couple hours!

If you want to try to kick a hornets nest, then just go ahead and do that instead of going online and trying to start something.

Gee, I came up with cmmoverated handle, YESTERDAY, never posted here, joined, etc. Then I tried to start something. Give us all a break. Smh

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Dawnbringer_1

Why does it matter