So Magik is a new God Tier Champ?
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Just had a look at Seatin's V16.0 champ tier list, and she's apparently God Tier now?
Can anyone back this claim??
Can anyone back this claim??
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But shes been this good for awhile, so not really a new ground breaking revelation just because someone made a video about it.
I've just R3'd mine, guess i better get those T4BCs for R4
That's why I asked for others opinions???
If you've played Magik at all, you'll know that she's always been God Tier. ;-) It just took this guy a while to come to the realization.
Taking into consideration the hardest content in the game,
AQ Map 5/6
AW - not hard but important here
RTTL
ROL
LOL
Act 5
I would only use Voodoo over Magik in a AW, and RTTL. I would only use Ghost Rider over magik in ROL. With that said, I don't value them very high at all. all other's are Magik, Scarlet Witch
Are they more fun to play than King Groot, sure. Super fun to play. But so's Venom. So keep that in mind.
The way Seatin defines "god tier" champ, those are just the very top performing champions (on offense) in his opinion. The god tier can change when champs are added or changed or when the game changes or sometimes when people's opinions change. Magik in particular is an interesting case. Even after she was adjusted to her current state, the general prevailing opinion was that she was just above average. I saw her as a top tier attacker because of power control, but most people didn't think of power control as a particularly strong property of an attacker, compared to the raw damage of Star Lord or the raw regeneration potential of Wolverine. But as time has gone on, two things have changed. First, the content in the game has continued to get harder, and power control has become an increasingly effective tool on offense. Second, players' opinions and experiences with Magik have continued to improve over time. Certain special events that explicitly rewarded strong power control have helped with that opinion.
To me, since her update I think she's always been a top tier attacker. But I think Seatin's ranking reflects a slow growing consensus that she's much stronger in more interesting situations than she originally got credit for.
I stopped reading after this... GR is easily one of the top champs in the game. Not sure what you're playing, but I've leaned HEAVILY on him in a lot of end game content, and he's never had trouble "knocking someone down" quickly.
If you have MD3 or higher then getting his power meter charged up to perform an s3 for reset is not that hard or long of a wait either.
He is good, but I think he's overrated as well. You might knock them down, but it's slow as **** compared to AA, GP, DV, SL, SW, or other legit God level champs. Definitely a gamble with the procs, especially against heroes. I wouldn't say he's complicated, but not reliable either at times. That said, I still have mine at r5 and use in aq all the time.
Ghost Rider's offensive output varies a lot depending on how you stack judgments. The M3LM combo gets you an attack boost and the M4L combo gets you bleed so if you stack those at the end of your judgment chain you will do a lot more damage than if you start with them. But it isn't easy to end with those since you have to cut your combos short for a while (which people can forget to do) and if you are using GR for his heals you will likely prioritize stacking the heavy at or near the end rather than the 5 combo judgments. How you play him can dramatically change how much damage he deals as a result. If you don't leverage the combos well, GR's damage can be mediocre. There's also a significant amount of ramp up time to get into the rhythm with GR.
As others have stated, a lot of this tiering is based on personal preference. Whatever champ gets the job done for you is fine... But it's always good to listen to what other (experienced) players have to say bc you may have overlooked someone that could really help you. Some champs get pigeon-holed as only being good for this or that by the community. And there's a lot of know-it-alls as well. Take what you see others say and go test in out for yourself imo.
That said, I do think Magik is one of the best attackers available and have no problem with her in top tier. I don’t think anyone in the 2nd tier above can touch her on attack.
Go watch Joel line or the analyzer use her and u will understand why she’s god tier.
that's my tier list. you value him more, but I've never had to. of all the regen champs he's of the worst IMO. It's not even 100% reliable, and you can only use it once before you have to reset it. His overall attack is not impressive either. Again, my opinion. I've had plenty of experience using them both and I'll leave him on the bench and start my Scarlet Witch, The Hood, Guillotine, Magik, even Dorm as he's at least reliable on the power control. Not to mention Voodoo. Who are all better mystics than Ghost Rider. I'm not buying it and I stand by that. He's all hype.
So much in this raises so many questions...
First, by your own definition gr is god tier. I use gr on aq map 6. He can clear the whole map with his regen (except minibosses). He’s the best champ for degen unstoppable colossus and he’s who I have found to be the best champ for caltrops juggs. I don’t know what lines you take in map 6 (I assume by your post you have done map 6), but I can tell you from personal experience that gr is great for map 6. He’s also the best champ for the bleed/caltrops lines bc he (a) regens and (b) doesn’t get magnetized.
Map 5, he also can clear the whole map solo. He struggles against cable miniboss and rhino takes forever with him. But he’s good against mordo. I usually don’t use him for minibosses bc his damage output is too low for them. But if you are a good player, he’s great for all of the fights besides minibosses.
Rol he easily clears.
I haven’t used him on rttl. But that’s more champ specific to deal with the nodes (spiked armor or safeguard etc). U really can’t identify someone as “god tier” bc they are the right champ to use on a specific node. For instance, I silent refer to crossbones as “god tier,” but he’s good for a lot of rttl.
Ghost rider would be a terrible choice for rol—but so would a ton of champions. Lol is about massive damage output and being able to intercept and spend lots of units. For the stuff that everyone does all the time, war, aq, questing, gr is easily in the god tier category of attackers. Same level as king groot? What a farce.
As for voodoo, once u understand how to play voodoo, she’s good for everything. Power control? Even combo l2. Bypass abilities? Odd combo specials. Facing an arc overload or regen champ? Even combo l1. Facing limber? Odd combo specials. Voodoo is amazing in all aspects of the game except for when u need massive damage bursts (except his poison stacks which are awesome).
And magik is great for almost everything as well except spiderman. And even then she’s not awful bc u can power lock him. I’m not a huge fan of using her against a stun immune champ that can evade either.
I think he’s still “god tier” in the sense he dishes out the most damage and where u can use him. I don’t use mine in war anymore bc of what you say (and bc his furies feed md). But he’s still great for minibosses/boss in aq and he’s great in content and the best overall (imo) for lol.
Magik is the best power control champion in the game. Magik's limbo is a regen and you can heal from it if you practice. This extends to recoil, Magik heals from recoil (provided you have 3/3 in recovery) and takes 0 damage from running double edge. (Liquid courage reduces all healing by 30% so you'll only recover about 85% of recoil damage.
Magik is perhaps the best champion to use on Starburst provided there isn't a auto evade/rhino on the node. Her Prestige is over 7400 at level 200 which is extremely good for someone who's been in the basic pool of 5 stars from the beginning.
Magik has been the mvp of 2 special events now, Bautista's and Goldblum's.
Here's the video of me using her to absolutely destroy Starburst Luke Cage in section 1 of AW.
I've found better options for myself. all valid arguments here, but I'm not buying him. My progression has been fine right now without the noodle whipper
Who is seatin? I am seating on a chair right now?
Why does it matter that much what a seatin says or not?
Give me a break!!!!!