Variant 8 Venompool Boss Help

benshb · November 2021

Instead of Apoc you can use killmonger with sabertooth and the same method

BitterSteel · November 2021

Good thing this wasn’t end game content, there’d probably be immune to heal reversal as well

kampereq · November 2021

It's now no secret that final venompool boss of variant 8 is... a little bit too much for this difficulty (said lightly). This is supposed to be mercs and Deadpool family variant and for now the only logical option that works is Apoc... with Mr. Fantastics prefights... and also you need maxed despair. This is insane and hopefully not intended. Smorgasbord should easily outdamage his regen but its not even close. Honestly i would swap his 1% regen with something of a safeguard or indestructible towards basic attacks and specials because if we want to use it to our advantage that's the way. Maybe there is something that we are missing but for now a lot of us are stuck.

BitterSteel · November 2021

Lightburn22 said:
Would 2 points in dispair + apoc and mr fantastic be enough?

Yeah I did it with 2 points, more points in despair just makes it faster.

Rookiie · November 2021

BitterSteel said:
Good thing this wasn’t end game content, there’d probably be immune to heal reversal as well

This is too much. I was looking forward to opening some featured crystals, now I don’t want to touch the game.

BitterSteel · November 2021

Rookiie said:

BitterSteel said:
Good thing this wasn’t end game content, there’d probably be immune to heal reversal as well

This is too much. I was looking forward to opening some featured crystals, now I don’t want to touch the game.

I powered through with Apoc to open a featured Crystal

Yeah, I wish I’d just given up

DrZola · November 2021

BitterSteel said:

Rookiie said:

BitterSteel said:
Good thing this wasn’t end game content, there’d probably be immune to heal reversal as well

This is too much. I was looking forward to opening some featured crystals, now I don’t want to touch the game.
I powered through with Apoc to open a featured Crystal

Yeah, I wish I’d just given up

Insult + injury

Dr. Zola

Rookiie · November 2021

BitterSteel said:

Rookiie said:

BitterSteel said:
Good thing this wasn’t end game content, there’d probably be immune to heal reversal as well

This is too much. I was looking forward to opening some featured crystals, now I don’t want to touch the game.
I powered through with Apoc to open a featured Crystal

Yeah, I wish I’d just given up

Ouch. I’ve already pulled her. She wouldn’t be too bad if it wasn’t so difficult to stack all her Zones up.
She resets to 0 quite quickly and damage doesn’t scale too well at max potential.

DalBot · November 2021

BitterSteel said:

Rookiie said:

BitterSteel said:
Good thing this wasn’t end game content, there’d probably be immune to heal reversal as well

This is too much. I was looking forward to opening some featured crystals, now I don’t want to touch the game.
I powered through with Apoc to open a featured Crystal

Yeah, I wish I’d just given up

I can top that....

Got her from both a featured 5* and a featured 6* within 30 seconds of each other after finishing 🤦🏻‍♂️

TheLegend27 · November 2021

I'm completing V8 by exploring each chapter before moving on so I don't have a completion run down, but this variant in general so far just doesn't feel fun. I would have liked if mercs were boosted in some way. Pretty sure my 2* Deadpool was outperforming my 6* merc champs lol

te_dua_shum · November 2021

a duped gwenpool could do this fight if it wasn't bugged: -100% DAAR can prevent the node from removing debuffs and enervate can make the fight much easier, but VP will removes all debuffs if you parry him (bug, nothing in the description says that he would purify pre-existing debuffs) and for some reason when I tried to close/re-open the app to save myself a revive from a combo that I shouldn't have taken (don't want to pay for kabam's errors) I got KO'ed, and it was the first of the night so I should have been recovered... not going to try again until kabam doesn't change the nodes or fix the game (possibly both, but I know I'm asking for too much) -.-

Rookiie · November 2021

I want my revives and units back please Kabam

BitterSteel · November 2021

Rookiie said:
I want my revives and units back please Kabam

Yeah and while you’re at it can you take my Chavez away and give me 13k
shards

) pretty please

TrubluMate · November 2021

Wow Kabam. With parry issues in the game you decide to do this! Makes me want to leave the game!

Surfinwalrus · November 2021

This is a merc variant, they should not be expecting us to bring other champs. Defeats the whole purpose

H3t3r · November 2021

Yondu could theoretically work if you got really good rng on heal block.

Kabam Miike · November 2021

Hey all, I'm having this looked into. So, besides the fact that it looks like you need a non-merc to complete this fight, can you tell me exactly what the problematic experience with this Boss is? Want to make sure I get the info right for the team.

TheBair123 · November 2021

Kabam Miike said:
Hey all, I'm having this looked into. So, besides the fact that it looks like you need a non-merc to complete this fight, can you tell me exactly what the problematic experience with this Boss is? Want to make sure I get the info right for the team.

Let's see where to start
-Benefits from Smorgasbord are reversed in about 2 seconds with the regen
-There are only very specific counters that can reverse/block healing, even less with debuff shrug off
-Of the few counters, they all have 95% damage reduction
-Best counter so far requires 3 champs + a mastery that costs over 1100 units

Need I say more?

SandeepS · November 2021

Kabam Miike said:
Hey all, I'm having this looked into. So, besides the fact that it looks like you need a non-merc to complete this fight, can you tell me exactly what the problematic experience with this Boss is? Want to make sure I get the info right for the team.

I think the regen is the problem, 1%. There is no way of dealing with it or reversing it with the merc champs. If that wasnt there it would be better.

HulkbusterN1 · November 2021

Kabam Miike said:
Hey all, I'm having this looked into. So, besides the fact that it looks like you need a non-merc to complete this fight, can you tell me exactly what the problematic experience with this Boss is? Want to make sure I get the info right for the team.

KT1 said smth interesting about this situation

https://youtu.be/VyOiyGOkj3M

Werewrym · November 2021

Kabam Miike said:
Hey all, I'm having this looked into. So, besides the fact that it looks like you need a non-merc to complete this fight, can you tell me exactly what the problematic experience with this Boss is? Want to make sure I get the info right for the team.

Well mainly the fact that there is no way to deal with the 1% regen. No mercenaries nullify buffs so can't go that route. Can't use debuffs to reverse regen because they don't stick. Currently there are like 2-3 options and 2 of them are just RNG based (Domino and YJ).

Hunter_Sarc0 · November 2021

Domino with over 200 hits and special 3 you get.

te_dua_shum · November 2021

Kabam Miike said:
Hey all, I'm having this looked into. So, besides the fact that it looks like you need a non-merc to complete this fight, can you tell me exactly what the problematic experience with this Boss is? Want to make sure I get the info right for the team.

Venompool is purifying debuffs that are already applied to him. Awakened Gwenpool reduces the opponent Defensive Ability Accuracy by 2% for each hit in the combo meter, so after 50 hits she can prevent Venompool from removing debuffs when struck, but she obviously can't prevent the Parry's stun from being shrugged off. The problem is that the moment that I parry Venompool when I already have debuffs on him he will actually remove all debuffs and not just the stun, and this isn't in the node and makes that fight close to impossible.
It's the same problem that King Groot has, where he can removes debuffs that were already applied when a new one is applied.

GrassKnuckles · November 2021

Kabam Miike said:
Hey all, I'm having this looked into. So, besides the fact that it looks like you need a non-merc to complete this fight, can you tell me exactly what the problematic experience with this Boss is? Want to make sure I get the info right for the team.

The problem is that you need both a Mr. Fantastic (Which not everyone has) an Apoc (Which not everyone has) and 3/3 Despair (Which not everyone has)

Remove Smorgasbord and whatever the regen node is and we have a fair boss

GrassKnuckles · November 2021

And i thought V2 Magneto was bad, this is a whole new level

te_dua_shum · November 2021

Werewrym said:

Kabam Miike said:
Hey all, I'm having this looked into. So, besides the fact that it looks like you need a non-merc to complete this fight, can you tell me exactly what the problematic experience with this Boss is? Want to make sure I get the info right for the team.
Well mainly the fact that there is no way to deal with the 1% regen. No mercenaries nullify buffs so can't go that route. Can't use debuffs to reverse regen because they don't stick. Currently there are like 2-3 options and 2 of them are just RNG based (Domino and YJ).

Venompool can remove buffs and normally he would work great against another VP, but I tried with my maxed five star and still wasn't able to outdamage the regen, nor I was able to use enough specials to constantly remove the regen, even with 10 furies active...

Wiredawg1 · November 2021

@Kabam Miike how about not making it an end game niche fight. After all this is not suppose to be end game content and you have end game/act 7 nodes on the boss

Variant 8 Venompool Boss Help

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