Variant 8 Venompool Boss Help

I noticed KT1 was able to get him down using Apoc and Mister Fantastic synergy. But I missed how he did it - and I’m now stuck. Lol. Any one have any suggestions as how to get pass this guy?

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goingtobeuncollected

Can somebody try out warlock with mister fantastic debuffs , his heal block is passive and cannot be shrugged of

Wiredawg1

I highly doubt it will work cause it drop fast with amount of buffs venompool gets @goingtobeuncollected

TheLegend27

What about the variant in general? There's no benefit to using mercenary champs. There's only a punishment for using non-mercenary champs. Punitive requirements like that have never been good game design IMO. Is the team also looking into the variant in general or just this one fight?

GOTG

man, it is so ridiculous, the first 2 bosses fight are all bugged, first one is unkillable even the shield down the second one use sp3 immediately. Have to back down, dont want to use items for this bs.

Realm_Of_Rah

Haven't started the variant but this seems like a nightmare lol.

Doesn't help I don't have any single of the champions needed at a Rank5 5* level. I feel like there should be a tweak, 50% attack reduction like the tech variant juxtaposed to the 95% it is currently maybe?

goingtobeuncollected

I'm sorry I didn't think about that maybe peni or Mysterio ?

Nalak8

I’m not touching this with a 6-foot pole.

Ironman3000

I'd rather they just released it next Wed and not have it be a bugged mess.

What's the compensation package for the bugged bosses looking like?

ExHavok

I completed first 5 map, skipped Venompool cause I don't wanna lose my temper and throw all resources into this. Difficulty is too much considering the rewards. I don't remember any fight in pre-nerf Act 6 as hard as this Venompool clown. ( maybe Acid Wash Mysterio in 6.3, don't know ). And they called this a " not endgame content ". I have a news for you Mr. Thrillson, it actually is.

Bugmat78

Well glad to hear a fix is coming. I've finished the first 5 quests also but will wait for the fix before engaging in any virtual hari kari.

H3t3r

Is it not as simple as just removing the 1% regen?

RCunha

Some units wasted, a few revives and potions used, all good, ok nice Variant despite the small amount of champs usable, untill reaching Venompool... and its game over... damn thats a dumb fight..

Cain

@Kabam Miike sorry if this has been mentioned but I think perhaps his regen is buffed by the global node affecting the pool of Pools

Zeronaut81

1. He regenerates 1% health per second, and you can’t reverse it effectively. Even using HT nova flames doesn’t work, due to (I’m assuming) the non-merc damage reduction. If you remove it the buff with Om Nom, the regen procs again within 5 seconds.

2. The snack node degens 10% of VP’s max health over 6 seconds IF you place 10 debuffs on him before the 30 second timer expires. His regen outpaces the degen, and he’ll fully regenerate before that next degen period comes around. If you don’t place 10 debuffs, he regenerates another 10% health.

3. His regen rate is 4379hp/second. He’s immune to debuffs, so you can’t lower his regen rate, apply any DoT effects, etc. If you don’t apply 10 debuffs over 30 seconds, he regens an additional 1465hp/sec. That’s 5844hp/sec.

4. VP has crazy power gain nodes (Energize for a +50% combat rate, Improved power gain for additional 200% from all sources) so you have to play cautiously. You have to bait out specials, so it’s hard to place 10 debuffs. The AI is content to sit back and heal 5844 hp/sec all day. There are no mercenaries outside of nebula or WS that can control power, and nebula’s power control is tied to shock debuffs while WS’s is unreliable. Don’t forget that VP gets a power gain buff if his sp2 is interrupted, and he has his own energize buff that grants him additional power gain.

5. With a limited pool of champs that don’t suffer a 95% damage reduction, can’t rely on DoT effects, can’t remove buffs, can’t power control, and have to play cautiously due to increased power gains, which champs are actual options to outdamage 5844 HP/second? Especially with a cautious AI that won’t throw specials?

@Kabam Miike

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ThatGuyYouSaw235

Could you please put in the word that the rank-up gems should be at least pushed up to 2018?

We're closing in 2022, and we are still stuck with 2017 gems.

GinjabredMonsta

Or remove the year restriction in general

WillieB

At least the rewards make the struggle worth it! LOL!

Mobile_P0tat0

The VP boss would be cool in SoP style of content, but he's out of place for variant level content.

The_Sentry06

Atleast Miike is communicating well so that's something...

Wicket329

Okay so like… bugs are one thing. They’re obviously not intentional and they are difficult to fix for a bunch of reasons. I get that.

Champion interactions are another. There are so many champions and synergies in this game, I totally get it that stuff can slip through the cracks of a small team play testing.

But a fight itself being this fundamentally broken… that’s a problem. And it’s indicative of a larger one. It shows a degree of carelessness that shouldn’t be present with a game of this scale. This fight was intentionally designed. Some person or persons went through and individually added each node to this fight, but didn’t consider how they interact with each other. It’s not even like the Acid Wash Mysterio where part of the champion’s kit caused the problem, and it was just a path fight so it wasn’t critical to completion. This is 100% nodes which are causing this issue, and it’s a boss so it’s unavoidable.

How does this make it live? What is going on lately? The last several months have just been completely devoid of understanding of the game mechanics and player base and I’m baffled by it, especially after how well designed the Grandmaster’s Gauntlet and Summer of Pain were.

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Rohit_316

Compensation for bugged bosses when ?

Berjibs

You won’t get one. They looked into compensating for v6 nerf. And the summoner show up nerf. Nothing was forthcoming,

Polygon

Valid points

TrubluMate

I have always found fights that involve regen can cause the biggest issues and require a greater amount of testing. The issues with this fight is the way of turning off the every 30sec regen is unsustainable and you are constantly hit with one regen or the other but normally both, with no champs really capable of out damaging the regen.

I understand you like to make fights that cause you to think, but the moment you introduce aggressive regen, it requires additional testing as you can’t unit man your way through!

Jubaknight

It is just very bad. Wasted lots of units and resources. Had to quit and I think I won’t even thinking of doing variant 8. Game design is meant to be fun not nonsense, just put anything.

I_tell_no_tales_1

Me too will probably focus on getting willpower and exploring act 5
Then if I have time
I will see if I can do this madness

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