Unpopular opinion: November SQ was (mostly) good and fun

Before you start disagree spamming, it’s really just because of the last few months.

Like I said, last few months, the eq we had in those months…oh wait

Yeah, after grinding my ass off in August and September, this just pales in comparison, I used like a total of 3-4 revives this month(itemless this week thanks to quake), and to me that is very, very fair price for content that was alright and wasn’t that hard(for my roster). I’ll take it any day over having to fight the new eq bosses 5 times each or do basic ass things with a three star.

Rewards could have been better, but honestly not that bad. Would’ve liked a couple more 5 star shards

Now, difficulty. I am an early thronebreaker with one r3, six r5s, and two r2s. Some of people’s biggest complaints were the difficult defenders like terrax, apoc, weapon x and maybe a couple more.

Something I learnt when I was progressing is that certain champs are actually essential rank ups, if not specific champs then specific utility at least. The bare minimum for endgame content is 5/50, and if you want to counter a single fight a 4 star is fine. Otherwise get 5r3s, 5r4s, 6r1s to increase roster diversity. It’s very important to actually expand the capabilities of your team instead of chasing individual god tier champs.

Preach over, have a good day.

Comments

Riptide

I don’t agree with your opinion, but I respect it.

I personally thought the side quest and eq this month were terrible

AverageDesi

Agreed . Enjoyed it more than the grind the same fight everyday quest.

AverageDesi

Also bug healthpool hard opponents means easy practice. Now I can pretty much take any weapon xfight

CyborgNinja135

I agree. Week 1 was pretty simple because it was just Magneto cheese, and even if you didn't have him, it wasn't a problem. I used Longshot and he had no problem going through it.

I think most people have an issue with week 2. The side paths were fine, but the middle path had 2 annoying defenders in a row. They weren't too difficult but 500k health on each made it tedious, and then having to fight Annihilus with the 2 linked nodes was also annoying.

Week 3 wasn't as tough as week 2 but it wasn't as easy as week 1. Only thing I could see giving people trouble was Apoc with aspect of evolution.

Week 4 was on the same level as 3, and I found it to be the best one out of the 4. Paths weren't too restrictive with the counters and the Doom boss was challenging but could be done with anyone. I got a solo with NF and another with Overseer.

While I appreciate the 0 energy cost, which allowed me to practice fights until I could do them perfectly, I didn't like the use of gates. Gates forced us to bring the 2 new champions, and most people don't have them above the 3* rarity so they're basically deadweight. If they're going to force us to bring them into the quest, at least allow us to bring 5 champions as usual, or just make the gates class based. An increase in rewards would have been nice too.

This was a 7/10 for a SQ

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IcsGrec

I don't understand why people complain that the rewards were too low.
Each week's SQ required like 1h of gameplay in total, for all 4 difficulties.
If you explored everything, you got like 10k+ 5* shards, around 6k 6* shards, 2 or 3 world's end cavalier crystals and a bunch of other stuff. That's more than decent for the effort we had to put in.

What were you expecting? 6* nexuses and generic awakening gems for that time?

Yes, some defenders were annoying, but overall it was a fairly simple SQ.
As for the EQ, it was probably one of the easiest we've had in the past 6 months.

IRQ

This event made me not regret ranking up Human Torch.

Could do better, haven't done highest difficulty Apo yet, don't think I'll be able to and I'm fine with that. What I didn't like is basically nobody liked - gates and rewards/difficulty disparity.

Hilbert_unbeatable2

Apart from forcing ppl to bring Ikaris and sersi and absurd side quest (and horrendous solo objectives) in recent months this sq was good

The_Sentry06

Even tho it was harder than normal, it was far from boring and the fact that it doesn't cost energy and isn't that grindy is great.

Rewards tho were the biggest letdown.

Rohit_316

This SQ was the worst one in terms of rewards . I don't mind fight Korg , Analhouse or Apoc but rewards should have been massively pumped up ... at minimum should have had 3k 6* shards and 6k 5* shards + other stuffs to explore legendary every week .

Ercarret

Difficulty-wise, I didn't really mind it. I used a few pots here and there (my god, that Apocalypse...) but I got through without too much problem. I'd say I'm a fairly mid-tier Thronebreaker. Not one of the endgame whales by any means but I get through stuff and I have a lot of counters for various things. As such, I didn't have any problems in terms of who I could bring along.

I do still have a few gripes with the SQ, though.

1) The 3*s were completely unnecessary. I liked @BitterSteel's idea of buffing them for this one event, but if not, then just get rid of them. They serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever and it was so incredibly tedious to have to go back and change characters for every lane. Terrible design. Please, never again.

2) The rewards just don't cut it. I've said this all month but it was basically Thronebreaker difficulty for Cavalier rewards. As a Thronebreaker, I got through it without sweating too much but Legendary difficulty should be for Cavalier players and it seems like it was way too hard for them. Not surprising given the excessive health pools.

3) Speaking of excessive health pools... Jeesh. I did not enjoy that at all. It made it all feel incredibly grindy despite it just being three fights plus a boss per lane. If you fubbed up at fight #2 or #3 and had to redo the lane, it was such a chore to get through again. Especially the middle lane. I would definitely have prefered another, harder node if they just reduced that ridiculous 500% health boost.

All of this being said, I really did like this short-lane format. I hope Kabam designs it so that you can pick up something each run because it's such a bore to not get anything on the second run (especially if you struggle to get through it), but otherwise I really liked the "3 champs/1 boss fight" format. Short and sweet, so to speak.

AMS94

I think the structure is good with only 1 quest per week & 3 small lanes with 4 fights each
But the restriction of only 2 champs ws a little too much & the difficulty definitely didn't match the rewards
Fr these rewards the epic difficulty should have been legendary
Fr the difficulty we got, rewards needed to be a lot better

Captain_Montica

Yeah except for garbage rewards

Xva23

I honestly think this would have been a B+ event if we actually got to use 3 champs for each path, rather than taking a 3* were never going to use. If they wanted to put restrictions, might as well have been class based. That's the only reason this is a D- event. Reason it isn't lower is that we don't need to do something everyday

TyEdge

I honestly think this would have been a B+ event if we actually got to use 3 champs for each path, rather than taking a 3* were never going to use. If they wanted to put restrictions, might as well have been class based. That's the only reason this is a D- event. Reason it isn't lower is that we don't need to do something everyday

That combined with the busted gameplay. Short rosters plus quirky gameplay means a missed parry or other screwup can rank your whole run or force item use.

Hammerbro_64

It taught me that Diablo makes a gulp noise in his heavy attack and L1 that is even better than HtD’s squawks so I count this EQ as almost as good as Mutant Treasure Island lol

Ercarret

My main takeaway is that this was leaps and bounds ahead of the grinding objectives for the past few months. Kabam if there’s ever a design choice between this sort of event and the objectives please choose this sort

Yeah, this. Even if I wasn't entirely sold on the SQ itself, it really was better than the objective-based ones from the last few months. I don't mind objectives here and there but mindlessly grinding them for an entire month is incredibly boring.

KingInBlack

I would agree if it weren't for the 3* gates. The fact they're there considering the content it really gross to me.

KingInBlack

I'm actually fine with the difficulty, it's actually challenging and requires thought and planning, which I quite like. Forcing us to carry a dead slot on an already smaller team really doesn't sit well with me. They had to have known ahead of time it was a dead slot but went ahead and made it that way anyway and I'd love to hear an explanation why. Remove the moronic gates and maybe up the rewards a bit and it's one of the better side quests to me.

DNA3000

My main takeaway is that this was leaps and bounds ahead of the grinding objectives for the past few months. Kabam if there’s ever a design choice between this sort of event and the objectives please choose this sort.

I thought it was a bit harder than it should be, but I will also take harder than it should be over longer than it should be any day.

However, I think what’s best for the game is a balance between the two: sometimes harder than it should be, sometimes longer (and easier) than it should be. It’s never going to be exactly what it should be, for more than one person. It has to lean one way or the other. Leaning sometimes one way and sometimes the other way offers a wider range of opportunities to players who can’t consistently deal with a lot of grind or a lot of difficulty.

Personally though, I did in fact enjoy the change up.

GroundedWisdom

I liked the design itself, but it was too overtuned for the middle paths. Perhaps a notch lower and it would have been enjoyable.

Spurgeon14

Apart from forcing ppl to bring Ikaris and sersi and absurd side quest (and horrendous solo objectives) in recent months this sq was good

So, apart from the 90% that made this sq terrible, it was ok? 😂😂😂

Skiddy212

I respect this post as it is controversial and you knew you’d get the disagrees/disagreement comments

Camby01

The original explanation from kabam for side quests, was 10-15 mins, not too onerous, decent rewards, but just a fun diversion. I personally think they missed that mark. I have a deep roster, the paths were far longer than 10-15 minutes for me.

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AverageDesi

I respect this post as it is controversial and you knew you’d get the disagrees/disagreement comments

Your respect for @Real_Madrid_76_2 must be off the charts

LeNoirFaineant

The only week I used any items for was week 3 apoc boss and that was a couple of L1 revives. I always prefer short and hard over long and grindy so I liked the side quest.

Malreck04

Can't believe I forgot to mention the gates. Definitely an annoyance, it was equivalent to having a two champ team over three. Three alternatives imo:

i) Do something like bittersteel suggested, artificially boost these three stars to the health and attack of 5/65s in legendary, and appropriately scaled versions in lower difficulties. It would be a nice way to actually get a feel for these new champs.

ii) Give us more champ slots. Give us a four champ team if you want us to use three. We've already seen two champ restrictions so it's definitely possible.

iii) The laziest alternative, do away with the system. Want us to use two champs? Give us two slots and be done with it. It is pretty annoying to have to keep changing teams when I could use the same two champs for multiple paths.

Malreck04

I respect this post as it is controversial and you knew you’d get the disagrees/disagreement comments
Your respect for @Real_Madrid_76_2 must be off the charts

I'd say the majority of his posts are not so much controversial as they are unnecessary and spammy.