Who is the Dominant Degeneration Denier?

Recently pulled Mr. Negative and Spider-Ham as 6* champs. Will likely take them both up eventually, but for now I’m deciding which to r3. Neither is duped. Don’t run suicides and my other Science r3s are Mr. Fantastic, Torch, Miles, and Spidey2099.

Both of these champs are really cool and stuffed to the gills with unique utility. I think I’m most interested in their ability to reduce or ignore degeneration damage, so any insight on that is appreciated. Like, does it work against nodes like Starburst, Icarus, Flare, etc.?

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Riptide

Nice alliteration!

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Wicket329

Nice alliteration!

Gotta find some fun when I foray into the forums

Tel5tr4_BoiRaj

Negative can reduce degen damage, but his sig allows him to heal from it too

Magrailothos

Spider ham can be completely immune to degeneration of any sorts, but that requires you to hold your spider nonsense to 10 at all times which isnt very easy, it depends if the opponent is willing to throw their specials or not

Negative on the other hand has a 40 percent degeneration resistance which is very cool as it mitigates a lot of damage.

Both are cool as heck, but if you have the skill cap to keep the spider nonsense at 10 at almost all times then its gotta be ham, no question.

He doesn't need ten stacks: "Every stack of Spider-Nonsense reduces Degeneration effect potency by 15%"

So, seven stacks is enough for 105% degeneration resistance.

I'd suggest Ham is better at countering degeneration. Not sure how their other abilities stack up.

Raichu626

Spider ham can be completely immune to degeneration of any sorts, but that requires you to hold your spider nonsense to 10 at all times which isnt very easy, it depends if the opponent is willing to throw their specials or not

Negative on the other hand has a 40 percent degeneration resistance which is very cool as it mitigates a lot of damage.

Both are cool as heck, but if you have the skill cap to keep the spider nonsense at 10 at almost all times then its gotta be ham, no question.
He doesn't need ten stacks: "Every stack of Spider-Nonsense reduces Degeneration effect potency by 15%"

So, seven stacks is enough for 105% degeneration resistance.

I'd suggest Ham is better at countering degeneration. Not sure how their other abilities stack up.

Especially with Miles as another r3 champ, Ham would have 45% resistance at all times (after initial ramp-up), 90% against mystics.

Wicket329

@BitterSteel I know you’re the resident Mr. Negative expert. How practical is his degen resistance unawakened? And does it work on all nodes, some nodes, or just champion abilities?

Demi_GodJay69

I don't think I have the right answer and I'm just going by my experience.

I've found keeping Ham's degen resistance up really hard and another thing is there's no way for Ham to start with the the resistance.

Mr Negative on the other hard with Mr. Fantastic pre fight can start with 120% degen resistance and keep it for the whole fight as long as you keep knocking down the defender every 15 seconds.

DawsMan

An awakened negative takes the cake for me.

Wicket329

Phenomenal write up, thanks a ton. I don’t expect I’ll be awakening either champ in the near future because I’m stuck on popping featured crystals for the time being. I don’t think I’m in a rush to pull the trigger on this decision, but it sounds like the Ham has the edge at the moment.