6* AG is unfair.

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  • JadedJaded Member Posts: 5,477 ★★★★★

    No, I'm saying common sense dictates this is the first time they've offered a 6* Gem trade-in. It also indicates that Kabam is not telling anyone to hoard. What people choose to do is another story.
    Yes, kabam increases the items we can get once in awhile. In this case they have never done this awakening gem trade in for any rarity. The first trade in type of event was pretty basic compared to what we are seeing now. That’s called progress, players progress, rewards must also. So the next time we see this trade in event (probably next December) people will want to be prepared for the next step. We don’t know what that’ll look like, so we have to take cues from what we see now. What we see now is we should have saved every awakening gem possible.

    It’s not hard to draw a straight line from point A to point B for this thought process. What you’re trying to do is say the line isn’t straight but still ends at B. I get it, most people understand what you are saying but it isn’t common sense. What you are doing is gaslighting people with your countering of what basically everyone can see. We want the item, we can’t afford the item so next time we will ensure we will get the item. That equals to hoarding everything because we can’t see into the future. This isn’t catastrophic thinking, that’s being dramatic. People can only react to the facts in front of them and make educated decisions to better their game.

    If a player misses in the arenas, people will tell the player to do more next time. This isn’t any different, except with this we have to use negative impacting words like “hoarding”. I’m going to save my items, crystals and shards. If presented with another trade in event I plan to be wealthy in items that I don’t find myself in this situation again. I will also preach this to others, and use this event as a point of reference to what could happen.

    Also, you don’t have to agree. I really don’t care if you do or don’t. You do your game, and I’ll do mine. Let the chips fall where they may.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,145 ★★★★★
    edited December 2021
    I'm not debating anyone's choices at all. In fact, I explicitly said I respect whatever people choose to do. I said for me personally, I'm not willing to hold on to things ad infinitum when occurrences come up that I can use them.
    What I'm debating is the idea that people are somehow being punished by this. It's not a punishment if we don't have what's required when something comes out. I'm also not subscribing to the idea that this is an indication of what's to come. This time next year, we could be back here with the same Posts as "No Gift". Only, it's "No Trade-In". These Events change. The only thing we are certain of is each year SOMETHING will be done along the lines of a celebration.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,646 ★★★★★
    Coppin said:

    Rofl again with the SOP u were traumatized by that event...
    What does it matter how many R3 he had?.. all the people complaining are only complaining cause they cant awaken their R3?!.. if its a champ that requires the awakening . What on earth are they doing taking it to r3?...

    The other guy saying that "oh im gonna hoard everything now .." well if the event doesnt hapoen again it would be useless.. so he us assuming it will come back otherwise he wouldn't bother hoarding... (Also its the same guy who admits using AG on Daredevil...)

    The game has an "economy" and its very important to manage it...slapping an AG on every champ is wasteful.. u want to do it its your choice and its respectable... But if u cant afford things later cause u can't afford them.. ITS WAS YOUR CHOICE

    Its the 2nd MOST VALUABLE ITEM in the game right now, it wasnt gonna be cheap and it clearly wasnt meant for EVERYBODY
    Ok.
  • VuDahVuDah Member Posts: 23
    Would be nice if Kabam allowed us to trade in 3x random class ag instead of 3x of the same class. I was unlucky enough to open 3 ag crystals and didn’t get the one I needed to form a generic.
  • odishika123odishika123 Member Posts: 5,423 ★★★★★
    It's not worth it
  • JtJ10JtJ10 Member Posts: 124
    Totally agree with op’s point of view with this. I am 1 away with no way to make it up. I spend my 5* awakening gems on the solo class advancements so I can get arena resources which will have to stop now as I’m not going to risk loosing the most important thing in the whole game to me again. I have mystic advancement in game now that I will no longer bother with which is a shame cos I like the rewards from it but not as much as a 6* awakening gem.
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,790 ★★★★★
    This "the 6* ag crystal is not meant for everybody" is suck a stupid argument. I f it's not meant for end game players that didn't get it because they wanted to try out Kitty Pryde for example as a 5* before they duped her as a 6*, or worsegot screwed from the dreadful rng, then for whom? Kabam employees?
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    Demagogue gonna demagogue.
    You mean Demogorgon?
  • MCOCHazzaMCOCHazza Member Posts: 915 ★★★★
    Personally, I’m quite torn. While I do agree that the gem is slightly too expensive (I think 4 generics is a more fair price) you can’t change that now. Personally I think either setting up a quest/solo event/challenge or other, to get 1 more generic gem, or having a way to turn different classes of gems for a generic, or even being able to trade in gems for gem crystals, as mentioned before.

    Any or all of these I feel would be amazing.

    I understand WHY the gem is expensive, it’s hella rare, but at the same time, I don’t know too many people who have 5 generics on them, or 4 generics but the class gems and/or RNG to get that fifth generic.

    Just my opinion. Hopefully the comments here can push for change! Or at least some thought in the matter.
  • Le_GentlemanLe_Gentleman Member Posts: 34
    Hazzalec said:

    Personally, I’m quite torn. While I do agree that the gem is slightly too expensive (I think 4 generics is a more fair price) you can’t change that now. Personally I think either setting up a quest/solo event/challenge or other, to get 1 more generic gem, or having a way to turn different classes of gems for a generic, or even being able to trade in gems for gem crystals, as mentioned before.

    Any or all of these I feel would be amazing.

    I understand WHY the gem is expensive, it’s hella rare, but at the same time, I don’t know too many people who have 5 generics on them, or 4 generics but the class gems and/or RNG to get that fifth generic.

    Just my opinion. Hopefully the comments here can push for change! Or at least some thought in the matter.

    Yes, you are right there are ways this could be resolved without hurting people who already took the deal, to name a couple:
    - The introduction of 5* reroll crystals like the ones available for 6* (not optimal as people can still end up with the same class after a reroll which defeats the purpose of a reroll but that's another discussion)
    - Adding boss rush type content, some sort of solo event or special quest that would give 1 or two generic 5* awakening gems

    Hell it could even be argued that extending the timeframe of the trade store's availability to include gifting event could help many people get the remaining 5* awakening gems either through gifting crystals themselves or pushing for variant exploration and investing in items to make that happen.
  • TruthseekerTruthseeker Member Posts: 333 ★★

    I’m just scrolling through to see if there is any orange text to see if Kabam in their openness that they now value (supposedly) have any cares for the issues they cause in separation of the haves and have nots. Nope…. Crickets chirping is all!
    My inventory: 3x generics, 2x Cosmics, 2x mutant, 1x skill, 2x science, 2x mystics and all my trades are done. Recently used AG’s on white mags, Kitty, KGroot, Platpool, because I thought I had an abundance!

    EXACTLY same situation bro. How is it fair that someone popped 3 crystals got 3 tech for example, traded for generic got 6* gem and jumping from joy while we are left with a rainbow of useless gems to remind us all year of missed opportunity. Depressed thoughts. Best gift kabam ever game me for new year...
  • TruthseekerTruthseeker Member Posts: 333 ★★
    No_oneuk said:

    Me and a friend in my alliance both had the same problem, 2 generics in our hand and unable to form any more because of what gems we had. We opened all our solo crystals and both got ~12 4* awakening gems, on top of the few we already had.

    He got lucky and got tech and mutant nearly every 5* AG, and was able to form the extra 3 generics he needed.

    I got a pretty even spread across all classes and was only able to form 1 extra generic, so I am an entire 2 away from getting the 6* AG.

    He's sitting there happy with his awakened rank 3 nick Fury, but I'm sitting here very frustrated. We both play at the exact same level in aq aw, we've both explored all of act 6 and 7, every variant, both done one path in abyss.

    It feels pretty awful that two players in the exact same progression can get such widly different rewards. The gate opened for him, but it is double locked for me. All because of dice.

    Some people will say that its only normal to be in a situation like this since everything is crystal luck based like its normal that out of 2 nexus one player gets god tier and other gets og captain.


    BUT this is DIFFERENT. Like SOOOO much more different. It SHOULDNT be like this. When you have ENOUGH GEMS to qualify you should be able to qualify REGARDLESS OF COLOURS.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★

    Dont want to spam but keep the conversation going guys. We need a responce i think. Even a NO WE WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING type of responce. The issue is painful enough and massively affected alot of players enough to not get a responce. People who have enough 5* awakening gems should get 6* awakening regardless of their COLOUR rng period. Thats my undetstading of celebration new year trade in store at least. Should not leave you angry and bitter.
    Also i pity anyone who got same 6* class awakening out of exchange but theres sadly nothing kabam can do now without affecting people who already exchanged. But on this 5* generic issue theres TOOONS of solutions that dont affect anyone who already exchanged. Number of gems traded will stay the same. Just allow us to get generic with 3 gems of any colour.

    Why do people put different tags to make it look worse?.. Celebration new year trading store? Xmas Trading Stofe, 7th Anniversary Trading store? Santa's Little shop of horrors?... Its a trade store lol...
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,336 ★★★★★
    Use class gems and save the generics….
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,646 ★★★★★
    Coppin said:

    Why do people put different tags to make it look worse?.. Celebration new year trading store? Xmas Trading Stofe, 7th Anniversary Trading store? Santa's Little shop of horrors?... Its a trade store lol...
    You confuse me .
  • doctorbdoctorb Member Posts: 1,953 ★★★★
    I started this event already with 2 5* generic rank up jem and almost 450 Supreme solo crystal. Despite all that I'm only almost close to getting 4 5* generic rank up jem. The RNG is just too ludicrous I wished I never would even try.

    Is there some other way to get rank up jems or crystals???
  • TruthseekerTruthseeker Member Posts: 333 ★★
    Coppin said:

    Why do people put different tags to make it look worse?.. Celebration new year trading store? Xmas Trading Stofe, 7th Anniversary Trading store? Santa's Little shop of horrors?... Its a trade store lol...
    Dude out of all my text that what you saw? Like nothing else you agree or disagree with me?
    Its less than 20 days left so yes its NEW YEAR TRADE IN, if there will be a hit the wall with head event i will call it NEW YEAR HEAD WALL EVENT. Anything that is done now in the game is the celebration of new year. Like the calender. Is it a NORMAL CALENDER that gives you t5 basic and stuff or is it a NEW YEAR CALENDER? .... bully...
  • TruthseekerTruthseeker Member Posts: 333 ★★
    Huh but we still didnt get any responce from kabam on the issue. Not even a NO @Kabam Miike ? Can you just type NO? So i can hug my useless generics and rainbow awakens and sleep in tears? :D happy new year :D
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,145 ★★★★★
    Not sure what response you're waiting for. The Store is what it is, and I don't see them changing it.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★

    2 points. First we dont ask for change or discount per say. We ask to ADD a button.
    And would it be the first time they changed store ?or values on items in trade in stores? I can remember at least 2 times they did.


    BUT even if they never have done it (wich they ofcource did alot) why not the first time of it be on new year celebration time? To satisfy people. People who dont have enough gems dont care. Only people with enough stones but wrong colours care. Just satisfy them (me included yes) by adding a trade in button for colours... its SUCH an easy fix and makes NO HARM TO NO ONE including people who already exchanged. Why not?, WHY NOT? Me and others just have this simple question...
    I did admit that the only part that I agree on all the complaining was that u should have been able to trade any 3 class for 1 generic, redoing or updating the store (from all the bugs they had all year long) has the risk of resetting the store and then u will have people with 2 AGs and all hell would break loose
  • TruthseekerTruthseeker Member Posts: 333 ★★
    edited December 2021
    Coppin said:

    I did admit that the only part that I agree on all the complaining was that u should have been able to trade any 3 class for 1 generic, redoing or updating the store (from all the bugs they had all year long) has the risk of resetting the store and then u will have people with 2 AGs and all hell would break loose
    I tottaly agree that it MIGHT BE a risk.
    If any kabam staff member came in and said YES ITS A GOOD IDEA BUT ITS TOO LATE CAUSE WE CAN CONFIRM ITS A RISK SO SORRY BUT WE CANT HELP YOU.
    just this would be enough attention for me and many others to achive peace and start coping with reality of not being able to get 6*. When the devs themselves CANT FIX IT (much different than NOT fixing) you know your screwed and you can accept the reality. Having done 7.3 variants and lab i havent seen a single 6* awaken on my account. Many class based nexuses, normal nexuses but no gem. Its sooooooo important i cant even stress it enough. ANY COLOUR of 6* awaken would be GAME CHANGING for me (example being unduped 6* r3 ghost). Thats why i lost sleep over it. Cause i HAVE ENOUH GEMS its just NOT THE RIGHT COLOURS and its so painful it hurts my soul...
    Yes its a game. But when you put so much time into it than you at least want the deserved joy of slashing through content...
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,145 ★★★★★

    2 points. First we dont ask for change or discount per say. We ask to ADD a button.
    And would it be the first time they changed store ?or values on items in trade in stores? I can remember at least 2 times they did.


    BUT even if they never have done it (wich they ofcource did alot) why not the first time of it be on new year celebration time? To satisfy people. People who dont have enough gems dont care. Only people with enough stones but wrong colours care. Just satisfy them (me included yes) by adding a trade in button for colours... its SUCH an easy fix and makes NO HARM TO NO ONE including people who already exchanged. Why not?, WHY NOT? Me and others just have this simple question...
    I'm saying the likelihood of them changing it is not great. You're free to keep asking if you like.
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