Basic arena problems and crazy usage of bots

I would like to really ask kabam what and when are they gonna permanatly ban the bots and ppl who are sharing accounts for grinding in the arenas? I'm in disbelief that I put 74,5mil in the arena and yes I refreshed and yes I have a huge roster and yes I grinded 9hrs a day to get spot 216...... I get it is Hercules but what I can't believe is how can someone put 85 plus mil in the basic arena that is ridiculous this is why casual spenders like my self are not competing anymore. please kabam either raise the top players from top 100 to top 250 or permanatly ban these bots and ppl sharing their accounts to grind arena. I took time to write this not to be a baby but to really show you guys that the way the arena is structured for a basic champ is not fair and it needs action, I will get Hercules someday that's not my issue my issue is the time the money just wasted bc of a bunch of cheaters please consider this post thanks in advance.

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GK_23

90.6 million got me rank 137 and an extremely ill feeling that’s going to take quite some time to shake off.

Ilovebagles

@GK_23 dam man dude I hope they listen and re check the list of the ppl who got Hercules u definitely deserved it dude so sorry man and trust me it was a bunch of bots and this score was not legit.

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Ilovebagles

@thepiggy 💯💯💯💯you are spot on man agreed !

Crys23

Bots in the arena are a problem. And top100 is outdated, needs to be 200 already.
But lets get something straight. Putting up 74.5mil (with refreshes) is not having a "huge roster". Barely average. And 9h a day is also not enough, needs to be 12+.
I was also grinding Herc, but 1day into it, I got my gifting rewards, opened 3 features and got him on the very last crystal. So I stopped. But my plan was to put up 150m, 130 at least.
My roster can do 100m+ without refreshes. I'm a f2p endgame player with a decent roster. There were a lot of endgame players who didnt (and still) dont have him. And his feature crystal ends in 2 days. Thats who you were competting against.
Shang-Chi went for 76 and you thought you were getting Herc with 74? Seriously?
With your roster you can get a lot of 6*s in the basic arena, expand your roster. But not a god tier, top 5 prestige champ like Herc. Thats when the big boys come to play.

Ilovebagles

@Crys23 I'll send u the rooster leave ur line I'd then u tell me if it isn't huge or not lol btw I used boosts as well now look to say 74 milion!!million!!! Milion points is not enough and 9 hrs isn't sufficient idk what else man bc that's crazy for a mobile video game there's a reason why this arena is called the BASiC arena ..... just happens to be Hercules who's in it and not just Herc but alot of bots I have no problem if I lose legitimately but fair is fair and kabam need s to look at this and make it to 250 not 200 200 is better but not good either 9hrs a day is almost a full time job 9hrs is plenty in my opinion.

Lorddrew

I had 70m in this arena placed 235~ , after 28 featured pulls, I got 0 featured champs or sub featured, 4-5 dub of the same champ. last 4 crystals had 3 DD, what I can't understand is why with even 70m, you can't earn the 6* it's insane, feeling gutted. I tought I had a chance after the bots were cleared we saw some wanted champs go for 50m~.

I have a feeling allot of botters were active again, as a 5* hercules can progress that botting account presumably??
PS: I have an immense amount of spite, can't understand why you can pull so many **** champs from featured forced to try arena, normal players can't compete.

Why vote for a champ you want, it comes out and you have no chance of acquiring it ? its stupid.

Texas_11

Bots in the arena are a problem. And top100 is outdated, needs to be 200 already.
But lets get something straight. Putting up 74.5mil (with refreshes) is not having a "huge roster". Barely average. And 9h a day is also not enough, needs to be 12+.
I was also grinding Herc, but 1day into it, I got my gifting rewards, opened 3 features and got him on the very last crystal. So I stopped. But my plan was to put up 150m, 130 at least.
My roster can do 100m+ without refreshes. I'm a f2p endgame player with a decent roster. There were a lot of endgame players who didnt (and still) dont have him. And his feature crystal ends in 2 days. Thats who you were competting against.
Shang-Chi went for 76 and you thought you were getting Herc with 74? Seriously?
With your roster you can get a lot of 6*s in the basic arena, expand your roster. But not a god tier, top 5 prestige champ like Herc. Thats when the big boys come to play.

😂😂😂 " that's when the big boys come to play" big #facts is all I can say.

My guy showed up with a Tesla to All star weekend.

Ilovebagles

@Texas_11 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I sure did tho can't beat them bots just sayin again I'm not mad tho I just want a clean competition that's all tho 🤷

Ilovebagles

@Lorddrew amen!💯💯💯somebody gets it 🙌

Lorddrew

Bots in the arena are a problem. And top100 is outdated, needs to be 200 already.
But lets get something straight. Putting up 74.5mil (with refreshes) is not having a "huge roster". Barely average. And 9h a day is also not enough, needs to be 12+.
I was also grinding Herc, but 1day into it, I got my gifting rewards, opened 3 features and got him on the very last crystal. So I stopped. But my plan was to put up 150m, 130 at least.
My roster can do 100m+ without refreshes. I'm a f2p endgame player with a decent roster. There were a lot of endgame players who didnt (and still) dont have him. And his feature crystal ends in 2 days. Thats who you were competting against.
Shang-Chi went for 76 and you thought you were getting Herc with 74? Seriously?
With your roster you can get a lot of 6*s in the basic arena, expand your roster. But not a god tier, top 5 prestige champ like Herc. Thats when the big boys come to play.

I understand your point of view, and commitment to invest. But this should not be the "standerd" for acquiring new champs IMO. Why bother as you get punished by "rng" or botters?

Texas_11

@Texas_11 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I sure did tho can't beat them bots just sayin again I'm not mad tho I just want a clean competition that's all tho 🤷

Honestly I feel you on the bots.

Let's just say you and I both have Hercules taste on a Shang Chi budget ya know lol.

I wanted to get him, but I knew the ballers were coming out.

Crys23

No need to send me your roster. I can take a guess, you tell me how close I am. 80-90 6*'s, 120-130 5*, of which at least 30 are still r1. Mine is 129 6* (average) and 189 5*, of which 185 are r3+ (pretty good).
This is fine for most basic champs. Once in a while a champ will come that you just arent ready to compete for. Recognizing that will save you from a lot of dissapointment.
And regarding the game, yes it is played on mobile devices. But I think most of us can agree that it's no ordinary mobile game. Or we wouldnt still be playing it 6-7 years later

Wozzle007

The score required for arena is simply based on supply and demand. We all know there’s only 100 spots to get the 6*. It must be galling to put so much time and effort in and miss out, but that is always the risk you are taking when grinding arena for a champion. Given that you placed 216 and only the top 100 could earn a Herc unless there were 116 bots that placed above you, you simply didn’t put enough points up.

So the reality is bots did not impact on which reward bracket you placed. There might have been some bots but not enough to impact on your arena rewards. You should have put up more points. Your argument that you put in enough time isn’t valid because the time you put in wasn’t enough to get the amount of points required. If that’s the amount of time you want to put in then expect disappointment.

This leads to your issue of whether the top 100 should be expanded to top 200 or 250, so you can put in less effort and still get rewarded. Kabam need to keep supply artificially low to keep demand high. Should it be expanded. Probably, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Personally I find arena an obscene part of the game. I wish everyone luck whose grinding away to earn the top spots but also find the behaviours and effort level required to put that much time and effort in for a character in a mobile video game crazy.

Texas_11

I also get close to 65-70m just doing 2 rounds of arena a day I think that's semi casual. You are definitely on the lower end of arena capability with refreshes.

ThēMandalorian

Kabam has "allowed" this for far too long.

While all communications and in-game messages warn of bans and such, whatever tools Kabam has used are easily bypassed by Bots and those accounts using them.

And even though it's clear for anyone who has played this game to see, Kabam continues to not ban the accounts without whatever "proof" they actually need.

It makes zero sense and the only thought I can come with as to why this continues to happen:

More Bots take away champs wanted from legitimate players meaning they will need to buy crystals to get the champions eventually. Why else would this not be fixed for years?

You all may not like Prof Hoff or agree with him, but every single time he's made a video about it showing the proof these accounts that rank high are at the very least suspect, it is using the same rationale a player in this Community can to see the fault in the arenas.

I don't know how to fix it other than just ban a y questionable account and start from there, but the other option would be at least increase the rankings that get champions to be more in line with the "old" arenas. My suggestion:

Top 200 (or 300) gets 6-Star

Top 201/301-600 gets 5-Star

That's a lot of work and this game needs to recognize that more. The 100 Top is lame and makes zero sense when compared to the effort and time it takes.

Ilovebagles

@Wozzle007 don't care I didn't get him all I care is that the bots get banned permanently. again fair is fair and I stand by that, if I get beat legitimately cool so be it.but it has to be fair and taken in to consideration that they need to increase the spots. the casual spender and free to play player needs to have a chance the spenders had their chance in the featured arena and the cav crystals so why let them dominate the BASiC as well and also why drop the points from the 6*s if scores are gonna be this ridiculous 🤷‍♂️ that's all I am saying here... they have to keep up with who is legit and who is not and they have to increase the pool to 250 not 100😀🤙.

Crys23

Regarding bots, I personally feel the bots arent in the 6* arenas. Those accounts simply dont have enough 5* & 6* to make it an efficient grind.

The bots are in the summoner trials arena where they can run 2, 3 and 4* basically non stop with the 2h refresh timer. It's for BCs to turn them into units.
No bots are getting into top100.
Who are getting into top100 are mercs, which, personally, I dont have a problem with. I know i can beat enough of them in arena, in legend runs, to get my rewards. It makes it more satisfying knowing I beat them.

Ilovebagles

ThēMandalorian agreed 💯💯💯💯

Uncle_Fatty_247

Our alliance had a short discussion about this arena last week, the general consensus was “do 90-100mil or don’t bother”.

Most of us have decent rosters, but it would be more about time while refreshing our top champs, which nobody was willing to sacrifice; over a thousand rounds in three days, little to no sleep, no thanks.

Rasilover

This is why I only go for 5 stars in arena

Wozzle007

@Wozzle007 don't care I didn't get him all I care is that the bots get banned permanently. again fair is fair and I stand by that, if I get beat legitimately cool so be it.but it has to be fair and taken in to consideration that they need to increase the spots. the casual spender and free to play player needs to have a chance the spenders had their chance in the featured arena and the cav crystals so why let them dominate the BASiC as well and also why drop the points from the 6*s if scores are gonna be this ridiculous 🤷‍♂️ that's all I am saying here... they have to keep up with who is legit and who is not and they have to increase the pool to 250 not 100😀🤙.

Well Kabam recently have taken action against botters in arena. https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/291101/tos-violator-action-report#latest

Those who missed out on a champion are being compensated with what they missed out on. I agree bots should be banned. But Kabam look to be taking action when they have clear and actionable evidence.

They don’t have to increase the pool to 250. People dominate the featured as well the basic because they can. You could have dominated the basic with a few more hours of grinding a day. Maybe a few Odins of unit refreshes.

When it comes to arena it’s go big or go home. The majority are going to miss out and it’s sucks for them, but that’s arena in MCOC.

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Ilovebagles

@Uncle_Fatty_247 💯💯💯😀

BigManOnCampus

There is this one player who scores top 100 in almost every arena with over 2 million PVPs! I check it every week, and people from his alliance are regularly in there too. Someone else from another team has over 800k PVP wins with a max streak of less than 150! That combination is so improbable that it has to be a bot.

Many of them come from the same country too, if you know what I mean. Check out their team names, their profiles, igns, summoner levels, stats, it's all fishy. They're not just running bot farms for gifting and building accounts to sell on the second hand market but they're stealing spots from legitimate players.

Kabam said they're working on restitution for legitimate grinders but is this actually going to happen?

Hard to say , the cheaters are still out in full force ... I thought those bans before the gifting event would have a big effect .

iFilipowicz

For me, the debate isnt about the required roaster size.

At this point, it is the ridiculous amount of time you need to invest.

The fastest way is probably refreshing your top 3 champs with boosts on them all the time. And even if you do your whole score only that way, its still a crazy amount of time you need, to achieve these scores.
To expect this crazy amount of time, 3 days in row, is not realistic in my eyes.
If that much time is needed, the system is kinda flawed, and only further encourages people to hire a few mercs which farm alternately for the needed score.

Ilovebagles

@iFilipowicz beautifully said 👏 💯💯

Worknprogress

Regarding bots, I personally feel the bots arent in the 6* arenas. Those accounts simply dont have enough 5* & 6* to make it an efficient grind.

The bots are in the summoner trials arena where they can run 2, 3 and 4* basically non stop with the 2h refresh timer. It's for BCs to turn them into units.
No bots are getting into top100.
Who are getting into top100 are mercs, which, personally, I dont have a problem with. I know i can beat enough of them in arena, in legend runs, to get my rewards. It makes it more satisfying knowing I beat them.

Basically this. It just makes people feel better to claim that they got beat by bots and were cheated as opposed to the fact that arena grinds have just become an absurd task now.

Ranunculus

I agree totally!