Ultron Vs Nimrod
Shiroihara
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Just pulled them both as 6 stars and I’d like to know who you guys would rank up as a priority.
I don’t know much about either one but I hear that Ultron is good for Kang.
I don’t know much about either one but I hear that Ultron is good for Kang.
Ultron Vs Nimrod 108 votes
Ultron
45%
49 votes
Nimrod
54%
59 votes
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I use him everywhere, he’s a monster. And he can just soak up damage like nobody’s business, so he’s a very forgiving champion to play.
Once at 10 charges, build up to just below 3 bars of power and fire off the sp2 for the big damage. You’ll be in Eradicator protocol at this point. If you are duped, fire off the sp1 to give yourself a meaningful energize buff and the opponent a big passive energy vulnerability. If unduped, then just go straight for the sp2 again to try to get it before Eradicator expires.
In some matchups, you’ll be able to maintain Eradicator pretty easily. These are most mutants, any champ or node that consistently triggers regen or prowess, or fights against stun immune or shrugging champions. That last one is really only if you’re good at reparrying, which is a good skill to pick up.
You seem experienced. Seems like you yourself sleep on Nimrod lmao
Am I crazy? I know most will think so, but I fell in love with how stupidly easy it is killing Apoc bosses in aw now I have the big guy, and that is at r2 unduped. Does awakening him makes a huge difference?
I am mostly ftp currently at 7.2.1, and 6* gems are for me veeery hard to get, so I have to really think twice.
I have 6* monkey at r3, he deals huge damage when I need a bleeder, also (for my level at least) still usable 5* maxed Falcon and NF.
Would awakened r3 NF be soooo much better than 5* r5 one to make a logical move and give a gem to him?
Thank you all in advance!
Use it on Nick. I love Nimrod, but Nick benefits so much from awakening.
Dr. Zola
Sure it might make him able to handle non mutants better , but regardless, I feel like Ghost and/or Ultron would benefit more from the r4
Nimrod is a mad mutant counter, more prowess more shocks. The mutant class is stocked with one shot killers and Ultron is good, but not that good.
Additionally, champions like Modok and Sam Wilson who have tricky autoblock mechanics that can be bypassed entirely by Nimrod’s unblockable specials. Or if you need to tank an sp3. Or if you need power control. Or if you need energy damage on basics. Or if you need increased power gain. Or if you need to be unaffected by armor breaks.
There are a million different reasons to choose one good champion over another. There are absolutely times where Ultron makes sense over Nimrod, but to pretend like Nimrod only should be chosen in mutant matchups is incredibly myopic. I mean… non-mutants are 5/6 of the game. That’s not exactly a small thing to brush aside. Rank ups are about two things, primarily: damage and health.
With Nimrod’s inherent defensive abilities, additional health for him goes much further than with most other champions. I have eaten multiple sp3s to the face with my r4 from Act 7 bosses and walked them off just fine.
As for damage, it’s the difference between finishing a fight (depending on health pool size) in one sp2 or two. If the fight isn’t too tricky, then sure, what’s another sp2 matter. But if there are mechanics in place that make it a hard fight to get multiple specials off, or a war fight that you need to close out ASAP before a mistake gets made, that extra damage may save your bacon.
Ultron and Nimrod have *very* different armor mechanics. Ultron can easily gain armor ups via parry. Nimrod does the same *but also* gains them passively over time and cannot have his removed by armor breaks. Additionally, enemy armor break potency is reduced by 100%. Consider a (not good for either champion) matchup against Knull. Knull’s Living Abyss will remove armors from both champions, and assuming he applies his Corruption, both will have potentially massive stacks of armor break applied to them. This will dramatically increase Knull’s damage against Ultron, but will do nothing to Nimrod. He’ll still just be normal, tanky Nimrod. Obviously a niche piece, but it’s the rare and wonky pieces of utility that are among the most valuable in this game.
Don’t get me wrong, Ultron is a banger of a champion after his buff. I don’t mean to knock him. There are absolutely circumstances where Ultron will beat out Nimrod, but there are also non-mutant situations in which Nimrod is the better option. That’s all I’m trying to show.