Please explain

Why is it that in arenas and some quests that :

My duped abom puts maybe 1 or 2 poisons on my opponent but when I fight against him I can have a stack of 5 or more on me the entire fight

My duped black panther applies less bleeds than an unduped one if it's my opponent

Nothing sticks to agent venom if it's my opponent but everything sticks to mine like glue

That when I am up against an unduped storm and I get hit by the special I get stunned and have shock damage applied to me

Why my Sig level 72 crossbones rarely shrugs anything off

My iron man and war machine never armor up but my opponents armor up all the time

My max Sig magyk gets maybe 1 or 2 limbs but my opponent limbos almost constantly

My duped Luke cage rarely gets a physical resist but my opponent never looses the physical resist

I could go on forever with all my champs but I won't

Point is make the game fair or continue to lose customers to the newer games out there

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IAmNotUrMom

@Fanoin If you are facing champs that are higher rating (for example, you use a 4/40 CB versus a 5/50 Abom) then the rating will affect the effectiveness of your champ's abilities. Aside from that I would say check your mastery setup too. Deep wounds and despair under the attack mastery group would generally make your opponents seem like they have an advantage over you.

CoatHang3r

The first couple listings suggest you get hit a lot is that true? Well reading further on you get hit a lot, stop that.

Abom gives poison when hit and you hit him more than he hits you.

CBs chance to shrug is low.

IM needs that be hit to proc, same with LC.

But really the answer is negativity bias.

Deadbyrd9

Some of that involves how many times you hit the opponent for champs like abomb and ip. If you get hit less than you hit your opponent then of course you will see yourself get more poisons or they will get more armor buffs

IAmNotUrMom

CoatHang3r wrote: »

The first couple listings suggest you get hit a lot is that true? Well reading further on you get hit a lot, stop that.

Abom gives poison when hit and you hit him more than he hits you.

CBs chance to shrug is low.

IM needs that be hit to proc, same with LC.

But really the answer is negativity bias.

I completely agree. Took this picture from a thread yesterday. CB's ability at sig 99 is only 25% and increases or decreases based on class advantage or disadvantage.

DNA3000

Fanoin wrote: »

That when I am up against an unduped storm and I get hit by the special I get stunned and have shock damage applied to me

As others have said, you need to read or learn the champions because many of your observations are connected to effects that only trigger when the champion is hit, not when they hit others. Example: Abomination poisons when you hit Abom or bleed Abom, but your Abom isn't going to poison anything when you attack other champions with him. Its a defensive reaction thing, not an attack thing. In other cases, its probably observer negative bias: you're just remembering the worst situations and not the ones where it was more balanced or going the other way.

But this one here makes me think you have a lot of odd misconceptions about the champions in general, and so you think a lot of things are "wrong" when they are working correctly. Storm's awakened ability is conduit, which increases her special attack damage based on her opponent's power level. It does not affect whether you are stunned or have shock damage applied. I don't know why you would think an unduped Storm wouldn't stun you, but the descriptions for these abilities are in the champion's info sheets. I would recommend reading them.

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DNA3000

Fanoin wrote: »

You got me on storm but obviously you missed the point dramatically of my thread

To be direct, I did not miss the point of your thread. Your point is the game is broken in a list of ways. The point of everyone else's replies is: you're wrong.

Xthea9

OP is correct if I compare the damage , irrespective of the champs , and I agree , some quest , even you can’t find anything written as abilities of opponent and still the damage you do is low and when you get hit , the amount of damage looks more. your champ is stronger and had more power and we expect that we should have done more damage , specially when we have fury or crit buffs on.

DNA3000

Xthea9 wrote: »

OP is correct if I compare the damage , irrespective of the champs , and I agree , some quest , even you can’t find anything written as abilities of opponent and still the damage you do is low and when you get hit , the amount of damage looks more. your champ is stronger and had more power and we expect that we should have done more damage , specially when we have fury or crit buffs on.

I'm sure you can provide an example, along with the calculations to demonstrate that the game is doing something other than what most players understand is supposed to be happening.

Kestrelle

DNA3000 wrote: »

Xthea9 wrote: »

OP is correct if I compare the damage , irrespective of the champs , and I agree , some quest , even you can’t find anything written as abilities of opponent and still the damage you do is low and when you get hit , the amount of damage looks more. your champ is stronger and had more power and we expect that we should have done more damage , specially when we have fury or crit buffs on.

I'm sure you can provide an example, along with the calculations to demonstrate that the game is doing something other than what most players understand is supposed to be happening.

And preferably with fewer commas

Sungj

Umm a lot of the situations you listed are because hitting your opponent and the opponent hitting you have different effects. Your abom wont poison as much because you aren't getting hit as much, iron man and war machine, same situation along with luke cage. Your opponent's magik will proc limbo more because they most likely have MD and hitting your opponent gives them more power than you, more power = more limbo. The storm thing is just a usual effect with her specials and crossbones even at dupe level 99 only has a 25% chance to shrug off so you won't see it that often. The rest is easily just rng, many people in my past alliance did rigorous testing with opponent vs player rng and when you actually do testing the numbers are pretty consistent and equal to both sides.

Ashburn

My alliance has this one rule that I think will help solve most of your problems: Don't get hit

Xthea9

Kestrelle wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

Xthea9 wrote: »

OP is correct if I compare the damage , irrespective of the champs , and I agree , some quest , even you can’t find anything written as abilities of opponent and still the damage you do is low and when you get hit , the amount of damage looks more. your champ is stronger and had more power and we expect that we should have done more damage , specially when we have fury or crit buffs on.

I'm sure you can provide an example, along with the calculations to demonstrate that the game is doing something other than what most players understand is supposed to be happening.

And preferably with fewer commas

😂😂 point taken