Mole-Man true accuracy removed during Frenzy.

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  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,516 ★★★★★
    SandeepS said:

    Personally I think it should be reversed. This champ is not part of the rebalancing programme. If it was an issue and resolved within 3 months I would have been ok. This has been like this for ages so I think it should be left as is.

    Absolutely spot on, best take yet IMO. This breaks with current standards they’ve communicated
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,516 ★★★★★
    It wouldn't break the game to keep it. I hope Kabam reverses their decision on this.
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,507 ★★★★

    I have merged the two threads from @MilitaryJane and @Amms90 in order to keep the conversation in one place. Please remember to keep the ongoing discussion civil and constructive.

    I'm gunna have to be with the people here. That's great you merged then for clarity, but this is what people talk about regarding lack of communication. At least something like "we see the concerns and are discussing it to give your a proper answer" or something would help a lot and would help to keep the convo civil still.
    In contrast, when players post about most bugs, there is at least some type of response (Like 'we'll look into it, post more screenshots'). I mean, it was only a few weeks ago that I saw 3-4+ posts about King Groot's Malice not working correctly, and saw that Kabam posted some type of a response.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,993 ★★★★★
    edited July 2022
    You just gotta love vague wording that leads to "bug" fixes.
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  • yash98yash98 Member Posts: 68
    how in the world does this happen Kabam.. 16 months.. SIXTEEN, he has been ''bugged'', why now? after the whole controls input fiasco, with this last months ridiculous state that the game has been in you seem to want to keep throwing fuel into the fire..
    does this stuff not get reviewed? does no one at the company have a single foot in the door when it comes to the state of the game/meta in the game? i really would pay to see what goes on when these things are being decided on cause it seems as though no one even bats an eye to second guess some of the decisions that are made.. yeah just through out updates, no tests no warning, let the loyal player base deal with it
    what a joke
  • TrongNovTrongNov Member Posts: 312 ★★★
    I feel a She-Hulk vibe. Luckily I'm never sold on Moleman.
  • Burrito2525Burrito2525 Member Posts: 523 ★★★
    @Kabam Zibiit and all other mods… it’s quite obvious this has struck a major nerves with the player base. I haven’t seen a topic talked about this much, so fast I’m honestly any recent memory..

    Please leave moleman alone and this thread dies, it’s the most rational solution, leave the champ who has been great but not broken as is…. Done. Go back to other stuff that needs help.

    Or at the very least give r4->r3 rank downs. R4 is SUPER rare still and in many case very expensive
  • HavanaknightHavanaknight Member Posts: 485 ★★★

    Molegod goes back to moleman.

    I’d say moledemigod. He still has great damage, bleeds, purify, and the unstoppable gives an opportunity to create an opening if needed. He is still one of the better evade and autoblock counters, albeit at the cost of damage.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    I feel this whole fiasco could've been avoided if at somewhere along the line kabam had informed that moleman is bugged and he is not supposed to keep the true strike like it says in his kit. Every time a thread or someone brings the topic up it's usually the players who tell it and then convos and arguments ensue.

    There were threads that were moved to bugs section but that isn't enough. At all. Bugs sections is for reporting what 'might' be a bug. Not a confirmed one. I'm all for fixing moleman and i have a r3 and a r5 and i knew that this might eventually happen so i took the risk and i have nobody to 'blame' but me.

    Just hoping that in the future bug threads about champions are met with more enthusiasm to inform . Ziibit does a good job but i guess it's too much to handle for one person?
  • DRTODRTO Member Posts: 1,681 ★★★★★
    I've never played with Moleman, don't have a 5 or 6* version of him, but yeah this whole situation is a mess. Like 16 months without a word that they're addressing it and then changing it out of nowhere is an unacceptable form of communication. I don't know much about game design stuff, but I feel like a bug like this isn't very difficult to fix so the fact it took over a year for them to finally release it is just nonsense. I tend not to support rank down tickets for bug fixes, such as the Magneto "nerf" one a few months back, but with that one it was addressed by the Kabam team and fixed in only a few months iirc. This is different, and the fact that the mods have only said "hey we merged threads, be nice", so far shows a complete disregard and lack of attention on a concerning topic. Hopefully they end up doing the right thing.
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,412 ★★★★★

    Mauled said:


    Mauled said:

    As Moleman isn’t in the rebalancing program didn’t Kabam say they wouldn’t be changing champions’ mechanics outside of this 3 month timeframe? Personally I don’t really like Moleman’s aesthetic and only recently pulled him so this won’t affect me but there’s a really important principle being violated here in my opinion.

    Surely the process is:
    - Champion designed/tested released
    - Turns out a missed bug exists
    - Bug is fixed ASAP so you can close the chapter on this champion
    - X months later needs champion needs buffing
    - Champion is buffed, descriptions updated, released.
    - Turns out new kit = new bug
    - Fix bug ASAP so you can close chapter on this champion.

    This is also the sort of thing that should be done before players spend money targeting said champion, before they clear content such as EoP, targeting said champion, or pick them out of a 202X selector. Doing all of this means there’s no recriminations, or at worst oh this buff is a bit underwhelming but at least I didn’t spend 72 hours grinding the arena or sell my eldest son on eBay for Cav crystals to pull the champion.

    There’s probably somebody who got their final R4 materials from side quest and EoP, rank 4d Moleman as their first rank 4 and then an hour later found out he was going to be neutered.

    If you can really tell me that person doesn’t deserve to be able to reinvest their resources after how badly Kabam have dropped the ball on this, you’re being performatively uncaring. This is a game we play and love, and the negative impact of leaving that player with a dud as their only rank 4 after a year of grinding for materials far outweighs the negative of letting them rank down that champion.
    Agreed, it’s very poor form. I suppose we should be pathetically grateful that this announcement came before 4th July offers and not after, though I dare say that the 95% of the player base who don’t camp here are going to be blissfully unaware.

    What I just cannot wrap my head around is how if this was on a ‘to-do list’ and not something that would just be left as is, is the time frame and lack of communication.

    Does the forum team pass this feedback back to the game team? It wouldn’t surprise me if a member of the champion designing team just happened across a forum post, or tested a piece of content with Moleman and found out he wasn’t working properly so fixed him.

    It just feels like there’s an enormous disconnect not just between the player and Kabam, but within the company itself. I think that they’re extremely lucky that they’ve got an IP as big and as vogue as Marvel to continually attract customers because they could find themselves in very deep water otherwise.
    Oh god I hadn’t even thought of that. This was announced less than 24 hours before there will be a 2020 champion selector available for 15,000 units. And Kabam have made a small announcement hidden in patch nodes that a champion who may be sold for $500 tomorrow is going to be neutered (assuming leaks are correct)

    There could be someone tomorrow who hasn’t heard the news, they could drop that money and select him. Then next Monday when the update comes he will wonder why Moleman doesn’t get true accuracy in frenzy anymore.

    This is getting more ridiculous by the second. If I were Kabam I’d be shouting this from the rooftops right now, in-game mail, forum banner, the whole works. People were 24 hours away from having the opportunity to buy the champion you’re selling for the equivalent of $500 and you add a tiny line in a patch note you absolutely know will not be seen by the vast majority of the game.

    This is not an announcement that should have been made this late, and this is not an announcement that should have been made less than 24 hours before July 4th where he is in a champion selector.

    They have not only thrown themselves in the deep end, but they’ve tied cinder blocks round their ankles and knocked themselves out. I’m very often on the side of giving kabam slack and not immediately jumping at their throats, but there is no defence here.
    That is correct - also never thought of that. Whatever the cost of that 2021 selector people are going to go for him from it who are in that (arbitrary) 85% of players who don't read the form daily or watch youtube...
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