A Tier List made by Kabam's rating system

Mysterio · July 2022

So as we all know Kabam has added these things called "Champion Attributes" which they used to rank the champions. Someone on Reddit (not me) made a tierlist ranking the champions by these systems. Some champions are in obvious spots but some are just weird to me. Mysterio as good as CGR? Rjino two tiers above Hela? Joe Fixit above She Hulk?

What do you guys think?

Unknown1223334444 · July 2022

@Kabam Miike will be angry with the tier you have placed Cyclops in! 😂

winterthur · July 2022

Summoned Symbiote?

GrandOldKai · July 2022

ah yes
- Kl'rt being in the same tier as Wolverine
- Hela being... one of the worst champs in the game?
- OG Deadpool being in the same tier as Venompool
- Quake being mid tier

Mysterio · July 2022

GrandOldKai said:
ah yes
- Kl'rt being in the same tier as Wolverine
- Hela being... one of the worst champs in the game?
- OG Deadpool being in the same tier as Venompool
- Quake being mid tier

I wonder if stuff like this is the reason the community and Kabam disagree sometimes on what a good buff is.

ThatGuyYouSaw235 · July 2022

Bro Kabam wilding

Fit_Fun9329 · July 2022

Just look at 7-6, all those mid tiers … bs

The_man001 · July 2022

Mojo domino namor ibom above

Bwcv, hercules, ghost, hyperion, corvus, angela,cgr nimrod!!?

Honestly this is the worst tier list I have ever seen

When you feel useless just think some people spend their time making this tier list

Mysterio · July 2022

Fit_Fun9329 said:
Just look at 7-6, all those mid tiers … bs

Hercules = Mysterio level

winterthur · July 2022

GrandOldKai said:

- Quake being mid tier

I am thinking most Summoner (in a bell curve) use her to hit the Defender. Probably even the Game Developer did not expect the proper usage is not to hit.

TheLightBringer · July 2022

So basically this is rating system kabam is gonna count on while balancing the new champions, magnificent

TrongNov · July 2022

Really they have it? Next time put their name on it so I'll avoid looking at it for more than 5 secs.

Fit_Fun9329 · July 2022

Mysterio said:

Fit_Fun9329 said:
Just look at 7-6, all those mid tiers … bs
Hercules = Mysterio level

Yeah but your opinion is independent from the tier list right 😅

GrandOldKai · July 2022

Looking forward to the Hela rework; clearly she needs a buff more than Groot, Iron Patriot, Vision, OG Cap, Rocket...

But why is Juggernaut so low?

Mysterio · July 2022

Fit_Fun9329 said:

Mysterio said:

Fit_Fun9329 said:
Just look at 7-6, all those mid tiers … bs
Hercules = Mysterio level
Yeah but your opinion is independent from the tier list right 😅

Personally I consider Hercules one of the best champs in the game.
Personally I consider Mysterio in need of a tune-up.

Kabam and I disagree

SpideyFunko · July 2022

more proof that the system is dumb, but tbf I don’t think it was supposed to be viewed by adding and and dividing to get a score

AMS94 · July 2022

And these people are incharge of "rebalancing" & the "buff" program

SmallTimeANT · July 2022

If anybody wanna know how the buff program fell so hard on its face, just redirect them here

Malreck04 · July 2022

lmao I came in expecting a laugh, this did not disappoint. Why they do juggs like that tho oof

BitterSteel · July 2022

Just remember that 2 of the 5 measures they use are Ease of Use and Defender Strength, so this tier list is 40% skewed by how easy to use champions are and how good they are on defence.

So a really easy to use defender will tend to be higher than we view them, since we don’t usually include how easy to use a champ is when we think about how good they are (ghost, quake etc). Or how good they are on defence (Doom, Mojo etc).

I’m not saying it’ll look perfect if you removed those 2 from the equation, but it may look a little closer to a reasonable take.

zaspacer · July 2022

Ugh, c'mon people. Don't just believe every post you read.

Is anyone even considering what criteria the "Someone on Reddit" used to get these numbers?

The "Champion Attributes" contains 5 attributes:
1) Survivability
2) Damage
3) Ease Of Use
4) Utility
5) Defender Strength

How many of the above attributes are you using to determine the rankings for a Tier List? Do you consider "Ease Of Use" when determining the best Champions in the game? Do you really want a list that factors in both offense and defense proficiency, or do you want those on different Tier Lists?

I'm not saying people won't still hate the numbers and order of the Champion Attributes Tier List when it's done to reflect typical Tier List considerations. And I think compiling a Tier List based on Kabam's Champion Attributes is a very good idea. But at least get to the right list. With the right attributes, numbers, and order.

Ghost Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-ghost/
1) Survivability..................................4.5
2) Damage........................................5
3) Ease Of Use..................................1
4) Utility.............................................5
5) Defender Strength........................1.5

Doctor Doom Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-doctor-doom/
1) Survivability..................................4
2) Damage........................................3
3) Ease Of Use..................................4
4) Utility.............................................5
5) Defender Strength........................4.5

Most Tier Lists are about offensive power levels. They would arguably be factoring in "Survivability", "Damage", and "Utility" (maybe even weighting each). The attribute of "Ease Of Use" is sometimes mentioned in a Tier List, but it typically doesn't seem to impact the actual rankings. The attribute "Defender Strength" is usually only considered in a Tier List for defenders, and such a list would typically not include any of the other attributes, because an AI defender would not be accessing them at those numbers.

So, For Ghost vs. Doctor Doom in an Offensive Tier List we would factor in the following:

Ghost Champion Attributes:
A) Survivability..................................4.5

Damage........................................5
C) Utility.............................................5
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Total Points.......................................14.5

Doctor Doom Champion Attributes:
A) Survivability..................................4

Damage........................................3
C) Utility.............................................5
===============================
Total Points.......................................12

Which gives Ghost 14.5 (14.5 out of 15 = 97%), and gives Doctor Doom 12 (12 out of 15 = 80%).

Magneto Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-magneto/
A) Survivability..................................5

Damage........................................5
C) Utility.............................................5
===============================
Total Points.......................................15

Kingpin Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-kingpin/
A) Survivability..................................4.5

Damage........................................4.5
C) Utility.............................................4
===============================
Total Points.......................................13

Hercules Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-hercules/
A) Survivability..................................4.5

Damage........................................5
C) Utility.............................................3
===============================
Total Points.......................................12.5

Quake Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-quake/
A) Survivability..................................4.5

Damage........................................2
C) Utility.............................................5
===============================
Total Points.......................................11.5

Apocalypse Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-apocalypse/
A) Survivability..................................4.5

Damage........................................4
C) Utility.............................................4
===============================
Total Points.......................................12.5

Kitty Pryde Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-kitty-pryde/
A) Survivability..................................4

Damage........................................5
C) Utility.............................................4
===============================
Total Points.......................................13

Nick Fury Champion Attributes:
https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-nick-fury/
A) Survivability..................................3.5

Damage........................................5
C) Utility.............................................5
===============================
Total Points.......................................13.5

Champion Attributes - Offensive Tier List
(Survivability, Damage, Utility)
=================================
Magneto............................................15................................100%
Ghost.................................................14.5...............................97%
Nick Fury...........................................13.5................................90%
Kingpin..............................................13...................................87%
Kitty Pryde........................................13...................................87%
Apocalypse.......................................12.5...............................83%
Hercules............................................12.5...............................83%
Doctor Doom....................................12...................................80%
Quake................................................11.5................................77%

SkyLord7000 · July 2022

BitterSteel said:
Just remember that 2 of the 5 measures they use are Ease of Use and Defender Strength, so this tier list is 40% skewed by how easy to use champions are and how good they are on defence.

So a really easy to use defender will tend to be higher than we view them, since we don’t usually include how easy to use a champ is when we think about how good they are (ghost, quake etc). Or how good they are on defence (Doom, Mojo etc).

I’m not saying it’ll look perfect if you removed those 2 from the equation, but it may look a little closer to a reasonable take.

Interesting, anyone want to make another tier list without these two traits?

Also, Juggs is easy to use and probably scores some defender points. Still got an L tho…

Demonzfyre · July 2022

Silver Centurion=Hercules confirmed.

ExHavok · July 2022

I can't stop laughing since I saw Ghost is 6-7

Vance2_jr · July 2022

Poor Juggy. Just sitting down there all by himself. No wonder he’s always angry.

Ironside47 · July 2022

Suddenly my recent pulls aren’t looking so bad 😊

H700 · July 2022

Holy **** buffing Juggernaut Kabam

YoMoves · July 2022

Meh. Quake slipping down the charts I actually kinda believe in. Sure, she's still the same quake as always, but no 6* in addition to natural counters beginning to crop up (Mole Man, Guardian, Apoc, etc.) has stopped her from being the all-encompassing ubiquitous Quake as always. I play in top-tier wars and Quake has dropped in my alliance's usage significantly, in part due to rising health pools making solos longer and harder and in part due to difficulty in finding a valid place for Quake to do her thing. Total lockdown where she works, but a lot of work went into shutting her down. Is she MID tier? Maybe not. But she's not the top of the world anymore, in my eyes.

Ghost, well. I just suck with Ghost.

SkyLord7000 · July 2022

YoMoves said:
Meh. Quake slipping down the charts I actually kinda believe in. Sure, she's still the same quake as always, but no 6* in addition to natural counters beginning to crop up (Mole Man, Guardian, Apoc, etc.) has stopped her from being the all-encompassing ubiquitous Quake as always. I play in top-tier wars and Quake has dropped in my alliance's usage significantly, in part due to rising health pools making solos longer and harder and in part due to difficulty in finding a valid place for Quake to do her thing. Total lockdown where she works, but a lot of work went into shutting her down. Is she MID tier? Maybe not. But she's not the top of the world anymore, in my eyes.

Ghost, well. I just suck with Ghost.

Depends on the content really. People started calling her a god when Gauntlet cam me out. Maybe she isn’t the best option anymore in most cases, but she’s top tier when she becomes the only option.

A Tier List made by Kabam's rating system

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