When can we expect details on Juggy's new buff?

Hey Kabam,

I know it might be early since it's only Monday but is there an ETA of when Juggernaut's buff details will be coming out? I'm so excited to finally see our boy wreck people in the battle realm!

Comments

GroundedWisdom

It updated

https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-juggernaut/

NGL, that looks a little hellish for Defense.

Mr.0-8-4

Hmmm...

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Doesn't look anything impressive. Lets just see how it will turn out on defense.

People might prefer the unbuffed version

GrandOldKai

I really thought he'd get some new synergies
Oh well.

Timing his Maximum Momentum special attacks is going to be... a thing, though

SkyLord7000

Best buff of 2022?

Wanna see some gameplay but it looks like easy to use nasty sp2 and very unstoppable.

TheLegend27

The gem being disabled while any non-damaging debuff is applied is kinda harsh. Should've been while under the effects of slow or similar debuffs rather than ALL non-damaging debuffs imo.

Synergies look uninspired.

The trade-off between maintaining unstoppable buffs and entering maximum momentum seems really off. Maximum momentum just sounds like it's really weak compared to maintaining a good amount of unstoppable buffs. When I think "maximum" anything, I think better than normal. Obviously, gotta try it out before I make a final judgement but my initial reaction is this was not fleshed out nearly as much as it could have been.

I think all special attacks should have paused unstoppable buff decay for "x" amount of seconds, increasing with the respective special (ie, SP1 pauses for 3 seconds, SP2 pauses for 6 seconds, and SP3 pauses for 9 seconds).

The sig ability seems really nice. The nullify looks pretty good if you maintain a high stack of unstoppable buffs. The weakness as a debuff and only a 5% damage reduction looks like you can use that in so many situations to get knocked down by some weak hit and get free healing off willpower.

All in all, I'm still pretty excited to try out my Juggy. He seems like he could be fun.

Deacon

so parry and no more unstoppable now .. makes any champ effective against him and not just science or slow inducers.

Mr.0-8-4

I really thought he'd get some new synergies
Oh well.

Timing his Maximum Momentum special attacks is going to be... a thing, though

I am most bummed about the lack of synergies. I am excited to try him though. He could be pretty cool.

Wished his unstoppable was immune to nullify. I'm down for removing them via non-damaging debuffs but I would've preferred abilities like Dr. Strange's nullify ability to be useless against it.

MrFullStop

I think the damage will be massive, +2346 atk at 10 charges, +4692k atk in sp2!!, so massive damage increase, I also think he will synergize good with Odin since he will have 10 buffs minimum. (not sure about them expiring all at once for unblockable)
although we can't judge it till it's live, since last year's buff were horrible
edit: fact check on numbers

Eb0ny-O-M4w

so parry and no more unstoppable now .. makes any champ effective against him and not just science or slow inducers.

Parry-stun will not be consistent and fail most of the time

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Deacon

so parry and no more unstoppable now .. makes any champ effective against him and not just science or slow inducers.
Parry-stun will not be consistent and fail most of the time

LOL big facts ... most noticeably against him now. 😂

Wicket329

at 10 stacks on unstoppable he loses them all for a unblockable attack? so we lose the whole attack bonus for a measly unblockable attack? (sure it could be useful at times but i definitely feel like not, if a opponent was autoblocking then we would have a hard time getting to 10 unstoppable buffs anyway)
am i reading this right people?

The idea seems to be to expend those 10 stacks on the sp2, specifically. It will grant a 200% fury buff for 10 seconds, be unblockable, and deal some hefty burst damage. Add onto that the fact that he passively has a 50% damage boost from the Gem of Cyttorak, it looks like his attack value as a 6* r3 for a well used sp2 will be 10,580.5. And again, half that damage will be dealt again as burst damage. And the fury lasts for 10 seconds, not just the duration of the special.

So to quote from KarateMike: uhhhh… that’s pretty decent.

Wicket329

at 10 stacks on unstoppable he loses them all for a unblockable attack? so we lose the whole attack bonus for a measly unblockable attack? (sure it could be useful at times but i definitely feel like not, if a opponent was autoblocking then we would have a hard time getting to 10 unstoppable buffs anyway)
am i reading this right people?
The idea seems to be to expend those 10 stacks on the sp2, specifically. It will grant a 200% fury buff for 10 seconds, be unblockable, and deal some hefty burst damage. Add onto that the fact that he passively has a 50% damage boost from the Gem of Cyttorak, it looks like his attack value as a 6* r3 for a well used sp2 will be 10,580.5. And again, half that damage will be dealt again as burst damage. And the fury lasts for 10 seconds, not just the duration of the special.

So to quote from KarateMike: uhhhh… that’s pretty decent.

This math assumes that the 10 unstoppables are consumed when firing the sp2 and before contact. If the 10 unstoppables last through either the first hit or the entire special, that’s an additional 3023 attack value for a 6* r3, plus the 50% burst. Pretty. Decent.

altavista

So essentially, the Juggernaut buff = Mystic Rhino?

Mr.0-8-4

at 10 stacks on unstoppable he loses them all for a unblockable attack? so we lose the whole attack bonus for a measly unblockable attack? (sure it could be useful at times but i definitely feel like not, if a opponent was autoblocking then we would have a hard time getting to 10 unstoppable buffs anyway)
am i reading this right people?
The idea seems to be to expend those 10 stacks on the sp2, specifically. It will grant a 200% fury buff for 10 seconds, be unblockable, and deal some hefty burst damage. Add onto that the fact that he passively has a 50% damage boost from the Gem of Cyttorak, it looks like his attack value as a 6* r3 for a well used sp2 will be 10,580.5. And again, half that damage will be dealt again as burst damage. And the fury lasts for 10 seconds, not just the duration of the special.

So to quote from KarateMike: uhhhh… that’s pretty decent.
This math assumes that the 10 unstoppables are consumed when firing the sp2 and before contact. If the 10 unstoppables last through either the first hit or the entire special, that’s an additional 3023 attack value for a 6* r3, plus the 50% burst. Pretty. Decent.

If that's the case.... not bad. I still don't like the idea that Juggy is stopped by meager non damaging buffs. His unstoppable buff should be similar to The Thing (immune to nullify but able to be stopped by slow)

Yodabolt21

I'm still trying to figure out how to even land a basic combo on the guy if he has stacks of unstoppable removed one at a time and will be difficult to parry.

altavista

Also, seems odd that class disadvantage Cosmics actually has an advantage. Lots of them can put armor breaks to deactivate the gem and unstoppable. CGR specifically should have a permanent armor break on since Juggernaut is a villain.

Renaxqq

Weird buff and I like it!

Wicket329

at 10 stacks on unstoppable he loses them all for a unblockable attack? so we lose the whole attack bonus for a measly unblockable attack? (sure it could be useful at times but i definitely feel like not, if a opponent was autoblocking then we would have a hard time getting to 10 unstoppable buffs anyway)
am i reading this right people?
The idea seems to be to expend those 10 stacks on the sp2, specifically. It will grant a 200% fury buff for 10 seconds, be unblockable, and deal some hefty burst damage. Add onto that the fact that he passively has a 50% damage boost from the Gem of Cyttorak, it looks like his attack value as a 6* r3 for a well used sp2 will be 10,580.5. And again, half that damage will be dealt again as burst damage. And the fury lasts for 10 seconds, not just the duration of the special.

So to quote from KarateMike: uhhhh… that’s pretty decent.
This math assumes that the 10 unstoppables are consumed when firing the sp2 and before contact. If the 10 unstoppables last through either the first hit or the entire special, that’s an additional 3023 attack value for a 6* r3, plus the 50% burst. Pretty. Decent.
If that's the case.... not bad. I still don't like the idea that Juggy is stopped by meager non damaging buffs. His unstoppable buff should be similar to The Thing (immune to nullify but able to be stopped by slow)

I just reread the part about how Maximum Momentum works. It only consumes your unstoppables if you attack into block. If the enemy isn’t blocking, your unstoppables aren’t consumed. So that brings the total power of the sp2 for a 6* r3 Juggernaut to 13,783.5 + 50% physical burst damage. That is unboosted and not accounting for any synergies or masteries you may be running to boost his attack further.

Typhoon

Definitely looks like Juggy will have a unique playstyle now.

Those synergies look like an afterthought, though.

Yodabolt21

Definitely looks like Juggy will have a unique playstyle now.

Those synergies look like an afterthought, though.

All of the recent synergies for the buffed champs have.

Deacon

I'm still trying to figure out how to even land a basic combo on the guy if he has stacks of unstoppable removed one at a time and will be difficult to parry.

hence the quandary ... could be quite the puzzle and it could NOT be quite the puzzle.

Wicket329

I'm still trying to figure out how to even land a basic combo on the guy if he has stacks of unstoppable removed one at a time and will be difficult to parry.
hence the quandary ... could be quite the puzzle and it could NOT be quite the puzzle.

He doesn’t start the fight with any unstoppable, and he only gains it by dashing forward or landing a hit. Parry off the start and you’re good. Also, if you can reparry, you’re good. Also also, each unstoppable only lasts for 1.25 seconds. So if you can just eat a combo into block to bait a heavy, that’ll probably work too

Typhoon

I'm still trying to figure out how to even land a basic combo on the guy if he has stacks of unstoppable removed one at a time and will be difficult to parry.
hence the quandary ... could be quite the puzzle and it could NOT be quite the puzzle.
He doesn’t start the fight with any unstoppable, and he only gains it by dashing forward or landing a hit. Parry off the start and you’re good. Also, if you can reparry, you’re good. Also also, each unstoppable only lasts for 1.25 seconds. So if you can just eat a combo into block to bait a heavy, that’ll probably work too

Doesn't his last synergy with himself cause him to start with 3 unstoppables? Or am I reading that wrong?

TheTrueBeast10

Will the Collossus synergy be updated or will it work as an extension to the amount of time they fall off? It makes unstoppables last 2 seconds longer

HenriqueSCCP

It should just be Slow, Weak, Petrify and knock the champion down to remove the Juggernaut's main ability.

Wicket329

I'm still trying to figure out how to even land a basic combo on the guy if he has stacks of unstoppable removed one at a time and will be difficult to parry.
hence the quandary ... could be quite the puzzle and it could NOT be quite the puzzle.
He doesn’t start the fight with any unstoppable, and he only gains it by dashing forward or landing a hit. Parry off the start and you’re good. Also, if you can reparry, you’re good. Also also, each unstoppable only lasts for 1.25 seconds. So if you can just eat a combo into block to bait a heavy, that’ll probably work too
Doesn't his last synergy with himself cause him to start with 3 unstoppables? Or am I reading that wrong?

No, you’re right about that, but except for Arena, there’s nowhere that synergies are active on defenders. That’s probably why it’s a self-synergy and not in his base kit.

Cat_Murdock

I'm still trying to figure out how to even land a basic combo on the guy if he has stacks of unstoppable removed one at a time and will be difficult to parry.
hence the quandary ... could be quite the puzzle and it could NOT be quite the puzzle.
He doesn’t start the fight with any unstoppable, and he only gains it by dashing forward or landing a hit. Parry off the start and you’re good. Also, if you can reparry, you’re good. Also also, each unstoppable only lasts for 1.25 seconds. So if you can just eat a combo into block to bait a heavy, that’ll probably work too
Doesn't his last synergy with himself cause him to start with 3 unstoppables? Or am I reading that wrong?

Think there’s a typo here. This synergy is outgoing from Colossus to Juggs and UC. It replaces the current synergy that gives him a longer first Unstoppable

Wicket329

It should just be Slow, Weak, Petrify and knock the champion down to remove the Juggernaut's main ability.

Yeah, I’d agree that having something like armor break, which is common for cosmics, shut him down is less than ideal. It’d be cool if he was armor break immune while the gem was active. That way you could armor break him after shutting off the gem, but you couldn’t just bring in CGR or Silver Surfer and call it a day.