Warlock vs Node 33 AW Bug

This is actually not a bug. While the defender is heal blocked during infection, infection itself is not considered a heal block effect. It’s just a symptom of being infected so it doesn’t count like a normal heal block unfortunately. There’s one path in act 6 that I used warlock for hoping to benefit off the boost that interacts with heal block and it didn’t work.

Both neiritixins and infection does not count as heal block. It was updated in their texts just recently.it means they can still heal block heal block immune champs

From the Wiccan and hulkling update

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So by changing the wording to “will not gain health” it renders Warlock useless for nodes where you need a “heal block?” Ridiculous

As i understand from the patch notes, it was always how they functioned. The nuanced mechanics was never really relevant until recently when these specific mechanics and immunities came into the game.

Just like how even slow immune and/or true strike immune (not immune exactly but like peni)champs cannot evade iron mans repulsor beams because they just "CANNOT" be evaded.(i haven't actually tries this but I'm guessing that's how it works)

And it's good that these sort of minor differences are being specified in the kits so that interactions are more clear. It also helps that this means both warlock and archangel bypasses heal block immune champs like Gore and rintrah(or was it a node that gave champs roatating heal block and stun immunity)

I don't know. Probably he has to be updated to be like " healing cannot be prevented in any manner"

pseudosane

That is actually ridiculous. cannot gain health= healblock. Whats so complicated in that? Such a nonsense interaction.

The Champion’s signature ability says he is immune to any effect that would modify his healing except for poison

But that would imply warlock and archangel are modifying regen rate and would be neuterred in nodes that are immune to regen rate modification. But that's not the case is it? They can still do thise fights

No. Heal block is a specific debuff /passive that has the property of preventing heal.

Look at Valkyrie. She "reacts as if champs aren't unstoppable" by previous game mechanics it' s basically just slow. But it isn't . It's a different mechanic

And warlock’s “opponent cannot heal” is a heal block with more words. No different properties, just plain and simple that the opponent is blocked from healing

Because the champion is immune to all effects except poison that modify healing. Not healing rate. Healing. They’re different. I’m not saying it’s the most sensible thing in the world but this is how it works

Heal block is a specific game effect. Trying to say it is the same as blocking the opponenet from healing by using it in normal conversational language is nonsensical.

For all it's worth the specific effect could be called " OOGA BAGGA" that has the property of preventing opponenet from healing . And the node reads " Applying OOGA BAGGA prevents vigour charges"

And Gorr is immune to OOGA BAGGA

pseudosane

This is false. Petrify will not work on him either, that affects healing rate, and so... healing. YJ heal rate reduction doesnt work either.

pseudosane

I just look at it as a passive slwo of sorts. Idk about valk.
Warlock and AA are speciically affecting healing. When heal rate=0 it is healblock. plain and simple. Two ways of getting the same result. So this interaction is nonsense.

that is wrong in my eyes, but i can see how you interpret it that way. the node reads (and i quote) "if the defender is not under a heal block effect they gain a dormant Vigor charge." the way is see it, while warlock's infection does not (anymore) say the words "HEAL BLOCK," it does have the effect of a heal block, as the opponent is prevented from healing. i think more clarification is needed here, because i don't see how something that prevents the opponent from healing and a heal block effect are two different things

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I should have specified that “any effect that modifies healing rate” is included in “any effect that modifies healing.” Hence, I am still correct.

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The name heal block effect refers specifically to the effect that has the symbol "heart with a cross". Just because two things do the same thing dues not mean they are the same. Remember the whole thing with direct damage not triggering face me? Both degen and direct damage do the same thing but completely different things

If they wanted specifically that icon with the heart and the cross, then it would’ve been “heal block debuff or passive.” Instead, it is “heal block effect.” This signifies that it can be more than just the heal block debuff or passive, but another effect

An 'effect' or 'status effect' in game terminology has always meant buff , debuff or passive.

Notice that in the node description the word ' heal block' is captitalized to be a proper noun. Meaning it refers to a very speciifc type of thing and not just any thing that gives the same result(in this case, blocking healing)

@Adi_tya0210 but he does heal even with infection

Look up valk. Or iron man infinity war preventing evade. Two ways of getting same result have completely different mech

How does that disprove my point? Warlock’s infection is a status effect that heal blocks the opponent. Therefore, it is a heal block effect. Would love some clarification from a mod on this. Only 24 hours until AW season