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Question for Kabam: How will her cap work with nodes like this?
What about everyone who forked over 50-100$ to have what they -purchased changed overnight?
And on the topic of change, can someone more IT literate explain how kabamm can easily make this change in code seemingly overnight but some,e other weird bugs and interactions take months/years to fix…. Looking at you moleman, fury bug, kingpin bug, etc..
Also, 3 prowesses is a 300% attack boost, yeah? SW could already hit really hard with good RNG, so an additional 300% on top of that is still wildly impressive and she’ll be hitting harder than most 6* r4 champs. I think that’s plenty fair.
Even the Creators that were testing out Quicksilver didn't catch this. There will always be cases where things slip by, and we can try to mitigate those the best we can, but can't ever promise that they will never happen.
People usually buy those bundles hoping for the 6* feature champ. Synergies are an afterthought.
Which I again repeat, is awesome and should stay as is.
(https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/312003/upcoming-change-to-quicksilvers-dear-sister-synergy):
Within the coming days, we will be making an update to Quicksilver's "Dear Sister" Synergy Bonus with Scarlet Witch (Classic) and adding a Cap of 3 Prowess Buffs.
This change will keep her hitting hard, but puts a ceiling on the Damage that Scarlet Witch is able to do.
This is very disappointing. I agree with those saying that capping prowess at 3 is too drastic. Perhaps 5? Part of the reason I bought the Quicksilver bundles was to get this synergy, and now you're taking away the value of my purchase.
I just thought surely they spent at least a few minutes testing that synergy and were good with it. I should have known better…my mistake.
I understand with most things as to why it makes sense you wouldn't see it, but considering most of us saw how powerful that synergy was in writing means that something is not right. Ever since the deep dive I was dying to test how powerful this synergy would be because I knew combined with her fury buffs, that sp2 would destroy.
A suggestion could be to have a beta where people can test out the synergies of the new champs, but have them unable to access the champion itself. This way the content creators can focus on the champion while you get community playtesting how powerful the synergies are.
If this were accurate then why did so many CCP members have videos scheduled for release at 10am PST yesterday showcasing the synergy and the crazy damage from it? Did they do all these videos and not feedback to the game devs?
I think the failure here is one of testing the most basic aspect of a synergy between two champs. The justification provided for failing to catch it doesn’t wash - there were no complex synergy teams required. And it was clearly caught by CCP members who released those videos as soon as they champ was no longer under embargo.
cause "too easy its not fun" was sad to read
usually nerfing makes me sad, look how they massacred my boy Strange after 12.0 for being "too op", now he absolutely sucks and 80% of the champs released after that were much "more op", it just doesnt make sense to me..
I wish they reverted SW, DS and Thor back to 12.0 but they wont ever do that.. and now at least SW gets something good and yall run to complain -___-
I understand that’s relevant. I am not being dense. I get it. SWitch is nuking some fights, and I get it.
But people aren’t talking enough about what it looks like when the kit doesn’t proc, and I am telling you all when that happens, it’s not all that different from Star-Lord and if you saw enough fights like I am seeing, it doesn’t feel that different.
Again: I recognize the fight that SWitch nukes are there and they have to be accounted for in the testing.
But it baffles me how more people aren’t being honest about what these fights look like when the kit isn’t proccing
lol maybe not in 1/2 a second but he's pretty OP. i don't think the guy meant extremes like 1/2 a second clears ... but this "nerf" or whatever it is now didn't need it. there are champs in the game that do insane damage in the right scenarios and that's fine.
i think Kabam is yet again overreacting to a small percentage of the base. and honestly again they took the easy way out and decided to change it when it just didnt need any changing. we might as well look at all the huge damage dealers now??
Also, to all those people that are complaining that Kabam changing the synergy is the same thing as another company taking back a real-world product to replace it with something else....... really? Other than the oversimplification of most of these analogies, they also confuse value, intention, implementation, and another of other important concepts.
I just keep running fights and see that there are clearly two sides to it — it just doesn’t proc all the time, or consistently. It just doesn’t.
This synergy wouldn't impact the game at all. Beroman already showed this synergy won't benefit you in Abyss or Labyrinth( damage cap ) ,AW(cause it's rng dependent and you want to reduce rng as much as possible in aw if you are competitive) and Battlegrounds.
Everyone has their thoughts but to me it's way unethical and unprofessional watching people buy the bundle until the last minute and after it expires, nerfing the synergy.
While I can understand that complex interactions can be hard to test (namor’s infinite damage loop with one eye open being a good example of how the community can be needed to sniff out interactions) this has to be one of the simplest synergies to evaluate ever. It quite literally would have required one person to mess around for all of 10 minutes to squeak out one of these numbers and realize something may need to be retuned. EIGHT people in my alliance, myself included, found this out within the first hour of the bundle’s release. EIGHT.
When infinitely simple synergies like this go over everyone’s head before release it starts to sound more like the team has taken to not testing the new tools at all since the community release will produce more efficient testing than what can be done beforehand. Its time to be honest about just how much time and how many eyes look at these champions before release- ESPECIALLY if they are going to be sold point blank in pre release bundles.
I want to be extremely clear with my next statement: If you don't have the tools to properly test your items before release then drastically undercut them AFTER ALLOWING THEM TO BE SOLD that is par for the course for bait and switch marketing. While this synergy needed a down-tuning the people who spend money on champions aren’t supposed to be guinea pigs for laze on the part of the developers
In fact, kabam has already shown thinking consistent with this point when the gifting badge debacle went down. Even if you thought that the gifting badeg was “a bonus” to the unit package kabam acknowledged that every part of a bundle contributes to its valuation upon being sold when they compensated those who has bought it after its removal. If this badge of all things was determined to be integral to the bundles valuation it is UNDENIABLE that the synergies a champion has is every bit as important to the bundles price. If any part of the bundle is revoked, downtuned or removed (especially because of poor testing on the dev end) it is only fair that the value be fairly recouped in whatever form that takes
I am gonna show two fights here, for those saying Kabam needed to do more:
One is a 5/50 SWitch fight, the other is a 3/45 Star-Lord fight, against the same opponent, RoL Juggernaut. A 5/50 is basically the same as a 3/45, as we all know.
I mean….for real. Come on, now. If you’re testing that and you see this, you aren’t losing your mind about releasing this synergy into the wild, especially when it’s not an outlier — again, I am not saying SWitch doesn’t nuke SOME fights. But some fights, it’s just not there!
It’s just not!
I wouldn’t have been scared to release that synergy into the wild — I am playing it! It’s good when it’s good, and when it’s not, it’s not special. It’s just not
Maybe it would’ve gotten changed, still. But I don’t know that it would’ve procced enough