“Tell us what stuff you want to be able to gift and we’ll make sure it’s not on the list”
This is going to create a nightmarish 2-week window where you can revive your way through whatever un-fun content you want for outdated rewards (Carina vol 1…what up)
At last... The most powerful champ in mcoc got a nerf...
We demand rank down tickets for this champ
lol no he didnt. he will return for the event. Its the normal Kabam thing to do, screw the player base so they can fill their pockets. Those vets who saved on multiple accounts and played by the rules are SOL. Those who are willing to spend more money will have the opportunity to, no doubt. They are going to milk this like crazy.
Lol dude im sorry cause its gonna seem like i'm making fun of u... But its bad enough there was a big fuzz about the chap 1-3 unit gain buff and how it affected the game.. u decided to 1 up that situation and bought the unit card... 🤣
Or does that 3% fraud that needs to be stomped out supersede all of the rest of us?
In this case, yes they do.
What we are allowed to do in a common shared environment is limited by what the worst of us attempts to do. They are the ones that make continuing to allow us that latitude to be too costly to continue, and they set the example for the slightly less unscrupulous to follow. The 3% that does the horrible and gets away with it encourages the next 3% that were not willing to follow suit to believe it is okay to go along with it, and now you have 6% doing horribly things setting the example for the next 10% of slightly less savory players to figure why not.
You then have the majority of players wondering why bother when every year more and more people aren't playing by the same rules, and an increasing number of players believing what they are doing is fully endorsed by the game operators and they are untouchable. Which, as they say,
Why not tell us sooner? We've seen the criticisms stating that this should have been mentioned immediately after the last gifting event concluded. Ultimately, until very recently, we weren't sure what this year's holiday event would look like. With the amount of fraudulent activity, we weren't able to analyze the full impact until months into 2022. I know there were internal conversations about ways to provide an adjusted gifting event, but every avenue the game team explored lead to more problems. As was stated in the original post, we wanted to give everyone the opportunity to make decisions about how they'd spend their time; we did this as soon as we had an idea that the gifting event wouldn't happen this year, even with limited information about what the new event looks like. This communication came three months prior to a normal communication cadence for in-game events.
How are we supposed to get trophy champs, now? We haven't seen anything to suggest the replacement crystals would remove opportunity to acquire trophy champs. We will continue to keep an eye on the development of this event and will communicate as we have more information, likely closer to the holiday season.
What consumables can we gift? As the details about the new holiday event are still falling into place and there is still a lot to consider, we don't have a definitive list of what will be available. Expect more information closer to the launch of the new event.
I, an I’m sure many others, appreciate such a response on these topics.
Thank you for jumping in an addressing.
I am hopeful that whatever is replaced is not as awful as the new summoner appreciation method. All I ask is that whatever this method is, please make sure it is clearly explained and defined for the player base that no one gets screwed out of something - otherwise, it’d be the same as getting scammed!
On the bright side, Maybe the end of gifting will have the add on bonus of eliminating arena bots after all there’s no reason for those bots to grind arenas anymore
On the bright side, Maybe the end of gifting will have the add on bonus of eliminating arena bots after all there’s no reason for those bots to grind arenas anymore
I wouldn't go that far. First of all, I'm sure there will be people who will still set up bot farms on the hope that they become useful in the future. Second, there are other uses for bot farms, although this was probably the most profitable one. This will weaken the incentive, but probably not completely eliminate it.
I will say that however much I understand that this change will hit some perfectly legit players and that's unfortunate, the fact that there are bot farmers blowing a gasket right now brings a smile to my face nonetheless.
This is tempered by the fact that those people didn't, and don't really care about the game. With their profit motivation gone, they'll just move on. The most we can do is inconvenience them and drive them away. We can't really hurt them because you can't hurt people that don't care. Which is a pity.
Knowing earlier would have been nicer but historically they don’t ever give any information on the event until very close to the event starting. This announcement is months ahead of anything before. If you save your units and decide the new version of the event won’t be for you then you can use the units to chase Thronebreaker, which I would say is a better use of units than gifting crystals would have been but to each their own. As I have multiple alt accounts I wish this would happen next year but at least I didn’t keep grinding them for the rest of them year. I have no idea what to do with all the units on those accounts now but consumables isn’t really an option for my main that has already completed all content.
My opinion on this situation Is that I would rather see Investment in gifting as an alliance event. Kabam could do that so Everyone could participate
Summoners deserve a chance to use Units that they farmed on legit alts. Crystals were the most fun part of the event. Keeping them would show the Summoners that Kabam will keep the game fun.
I would have had no problem at all with this had you announced it right after gifting last year. However as someone who can’t spend absorbent amounts of money of this game. I spent hours grinding units on Alts for the first time because last years was so ridiculous. It gave a huge edge to whales for months. And as a top tier player I had to figure out a way to keep up with ally mates and other allys who spend tens of thousands of dollars. To let people grind for 9 months then say too bad so sad is reprehensible. I have finished every bit of the content so you know what I don’t need is? Consumables.
Maybe a better plan was allowing max 10 ggcs to be traded then get rid of it. But to just end it the way you did hurts mostly ftp or low paying players. Which combined with the changes to war becoming buy to win, releasing 2 new top5 prestige champs back to back you’ve basically made it even more impossible for many players to compete.
So after 6 years I’m pretty sure I’m done. It was the proverbial throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Only reason I have an alt account is to send myself GGC. Have 9000 units saved up since last gifting event. All down the drain. Ridiculous
You were essentially taking advantage of the system and it's Kabam's fault... You knew this wasn't their intention and there was always the chance they'd fix it
I 1000% disagree. Kabam knew this would happen and welcomed it. It padded their unique users which is great for their valuation and attracting investors.
Brilliant way to have new accounts when it plateaued a long time ago.
So basically we have to buy GGCs to give to ourselves?
Let’s be realistic. Either through alt accounts or trades, that’s what 99% of us were doing anyways
Exactly... My thoughts on the "New Format" GGC will be renamed... Lets call it "Holiday Crystal".. it will have the same or updated contents that a GGC would have.. the difference?.. U can't gift it.. u buy it for yourself... The alliance event: it will be the same but you will score by opening this Holiday Crystals and not for gifting them... Basically u can't gift... Your own benefit unit per unit is the same... The downside?.. u cant use your alt to benefit your main... Oh well..
And they got rid of permanent gifting because of resource gifting scams. They’ll just make their money that way as well. So the only people getting truly burned are the people who legit grinded within the rules.
Here is the idea without scrapping gifting (yeah I know consumables as kabam mention it): Make it an event where only ally members can gifting each other (ally based), beneficial to both ally and members. No outside gifting allowed, those with alternate account, not just a farming units but also have to earn spot in ally, which means the account need to be serious developed. Let it be if people can remote 30 account, its called "playing your games". Oh well just the idea
And they got rid of permanent gifting because of resource gifting scams. They’ll just make their money that way as well. So the only people getting truly burned are the people who legit grinded within the rules.
Did u miss the part where it says this will be the last gifting event?.. who's gonna try to buy consumables during the infinite spending event...on top of that buying them for real money..
As this wasn’t the first gifting event shouldn’t this news come right after gifting so people don’t save all year for the next one?
Yup, I totally agree with this quote due to feeling blindsided. I work for my units and ggcs, a toxic and fraudulent player base has created this situation, the changes should come after the event so those of us that are honest players are not blindsided like this.
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What we are allowed to do in a common shared environment is limited by what the worst of us attempts to do. They are the ones that make continuing to allow us that latitude to be too costly to continue, and they set the example for the slightly less unscrupulous to follow. The 3% that does the horrible and gets away with it encourages the next 3% that were not willing to follow suit to believe it is okay to go along with it, and now you have 6% doing horribly things setting the example for the next 10% of slightly less savory players to figure why not.
You then have the majority of players wondering why bother when every year more and more people aren't playing by the same rules, and an increasing number of players believing what they are doing is fully endorsed by the game operators and they are untouchable. Which, as they say,
Thank you for jumping in an addressing.
I am hopeful that whatever is replaced is not as awful as the new summoner appreciation method. All I ask is that whatever this method is, please make sure it is clearly explained and defined for the player base that no one gets screwed out of something - otherwise, it’d be the same as getting scammed!
Thanks jax❤️
One of the best things kabams done for a while this change.
I will say that however much I understand that this change will hit some perfectly legit players and that's unfortunate, the fact that there are bot farmers blowing a gasket right now brings a smile to my face nonetheless.
This is tempered by the fact that those people didn't, and don't really care about the game. With their profit motivation gone, they'll just move on. The most we can do is inconvenience them and drive them away. We can't really hurt them because you can't hurt people that don't care. Which is a pity.
Is that I would rather see
Investment in gifting as an alliance event.
Kabam could do that so
Everyone could participate
Summoners deserve a chance to use
Units that they farmed on legit alts.
Crystals were the most fun part of the event.
Keeping them would show the
Summoners that Kabam will keep the game fun.
Maybe a better plan was allowing max 10 ggcs to be traded then get rid of it. But to just end it the way you did hurts mostly ftp or low paying players. Which combined with the changes to war becoming buy to win, releasing 2 new top5 prestige champs back to back you’ve basically made it even more impossible for many players to compete.
So after 6 years I’m pretty sure I’m done. It was the proverbial throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Brilliant way to have new accounts when it plateaued a long time ago.
GGC will be renamed... Lets call it "Holiday Crystal".. it will have the same or updated contents that a GGC would have.. the difference?.. U can't gift it.. u buy it for yourself...
The alliance event: it will be the same but you will score by opening this Holiday Crystals and not for gifting them...
Basically u can't gift... Your own benefit unit per unit is the same... The downside?.. u cant use your alt to benefit your main... Oh well..
That’s it. That’s the event.