6* Unduped Symbiote Supreme

Egor_135Egor_135 Member Posts: 101 ★
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It is worth to rank him up? Does he got any use in ACT 6.2 (Mainly The Champion) ,6.3 and 6.4?I got very limited resources and want to spend them carefully.

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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Yeah you'll get the most use from him on the 6.2.6 champion and 6.3.1 Medusa like Stevie said. He's still solid for a few paths as well. There are multiple cosmic heavy and resistor paths he comes in handy for. One of the resistor paths is bleed immune which limits him a bit but he can still be used to sure if you don't want to cheese it with ronan
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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Do you have mystic dispersion unlocked? Bc he's basically unplayable without it at a bare minimum MD3 imo but I won't even use him without at least MD4
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  • FlipiiFlopFlipiiFlop Member Posts: 21 ★
    Egor_135 said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Do you have mystic dispersion unlocked? Bc he's basically unplayable without it at a bare minimum MD3 imo but I won't even use him without at least MD4

    Hmm well that sucks, I never unlocked MD because I never had any good mystic champs.I got magik and ghost rider at rank 4 but never felt the need of MD.So basically you're saying he's potato without MD?
    He doesn't need Mystic Dispersion but he is extremely reliant on buffs so you can build up Genetic Potential. Without any buffs for him to nullify, he gains very little power when he switches to the next blessing. He's able to nullify the furies and unstoppable buffs that 6.2 Champion gains in his early phases, however, you'll take direct damage from nullifying buffs in one of the later ones.
  • WhathappenedWhathappened Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    I'm sorry but to me he really does need MD. His power gain is horrible without it and you really want to be able to spam s3 with him. The first 3 aren't horrible to unlock but 4 and 5 are really expensive, especially 5. Lot's of people are happy with 3 but to me 4 is better.
  • aNOOBis235aNOOBis235 Member Posts: 147 ★
    He really needs it I took mine up to rank3 md and the difference was huge I would say u need at least 4 to get the most out of him as then you can use his sp2 without boosting
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    edited May 2020
    Egor_135 said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Do you have mystic dispersion unlocked? Bc he's basically unplayable without it at a bare minimum MD3 imo but I won't even use him without at least MD4

    Hmm well that sucks, I never unlocked MD because I never had any good mystic champs.I got magik and ghost rider at rank 4 but never felt the need of MD.So basically you're saying he's potato without MD?
    He's far from a potato but he can be incredibly frustrating to use and every fight will be incredibly long. For the Champion fight I absolutely think he NEEDS MD.

    I would definitely look into starting to unlock it. It's a worthwhile investment if you ever have any intention of using him. His power gain is atrocious without it. I'm not sure it would even be possible to keep his rotation going for the champion fight without it at 3 at a minimum. I don't even like using him without 4 points in it personally. I used a R2 6* sym with MD3 for the champion fight, he's now R3 and I've unlocked MD4 to make him less of a chore to use.

    You'll find VERY few people that will use him without MD with at least 3 points honestly
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    He needs md for his best rotation, otherwise you physically can’t fire off special 2s with all 3 stances active
  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    Worknprogress said:

    Egor_135 said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Do you have mystic dispersion unlocked? Bc he's basically unplayable without it at a bare minimum MD3 imo but I won't even use him without at least MD4

    Hmm well that sucks, I never unlocked MD because I never had any good mystic champs.I got magik and ghost rider at rank 4 but never felt the need of MD.So basically you're saying he's potato without MD?
    He's far from a potato but he can be incredibly frustrating to use and every fight will be incredibly long. For the Champion fight I absolutely think he NEEDS MD.

    I would definitely look into starting to unlock it. It's a worthwhile investment if you ever have any intention of using him. His power gain is atrocious without it. I'm not sure it would even be possible to keep his rotation going for the champion fight without it at 3 at a minimum. I don't even like using him without 4 points in it personally. I used a R2 6* sym with MD3 for the champion fight, he's now R3 and I've unlocked MD4 to make him less of a chore to use.

    You'll find VERY few people that will use him without MD with at least 3 points honestly
    I did Abyss completion with SS and 0 point on MD. He starts slowly but once he got rotation nothing can stop him. Soloed Cull with him.

    MD makes him incredible but you can use him without it.
  • Monk1Monk1 Member Posts: 758 ★★★★
    Higher Md is better, but he is still
    Solid without. I used mine at MD1 for champion fight and was fine,
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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    GOTG said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Egor_135 said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Do you have mystic dispersion unlocked? Bc he's basically unplayable without it at a bare minimum MD3 imo but I won't even use him without at least MD4

    Hmm well that sucks, I never unlocked MD because I never had any good mystic champs.I got magik and ghost rider at rank 4 but never felt the need of MD.So basically you're saying he's potato without MD?
    He's far from a potato but he can be incredibly frustrating to use and every fight will be incredibly long. For the Champion fight I absolutely think he NEEDS MD.

    I would definitely look into starting to unlock it. It's a worthwhile investment if you ever have any intention of using him. His power gain is atrocious without it. I'm not sure it would even be possible to keep his rotation going for the champion fight without it at 3 at a minimum. I don't even like using him without 4 points in it personally. I used a R2 6* sym with MD3 for the champion fight, he's now R3 and I've unlocked MD4 to make him less of a chore to use.

    You'll find VERY few people that will use him without MD with at least 3 points honestly
    I did Abyss completion with SS and 0 point on MD. He starts slowly but once he got rotation nothing can stop him. Soloed Cull with him.

    MD makes him incredible but you can use him without it.
    That's easy path abyss, nowhere in it do you need to fire off specials in quick succession, you just need to be able to nullify. Good luck doing that on 6.2.6 champion or 90% of other places people typically use sym
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    edited May 2020
    Does he need to be awakened? Sorry, I have MD at 3 and I am planning to take 6.2.6 Champion, Just need to know his viability at rank 4 unawakened
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    Does he need to be awakened? Sorry, I have MD at 3 and I am planning to take 6.2.6 Champion, Just need to know his viability at rank 4 unawakened

    Not at all. It's one of those nice to have but not remotely necessary sigs. Places a stagger over time regardless of phase that you're in
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★
    Oh yeah you definitely need mystic dispersion with him. I run 4/5 at all times because I use a lot of mystic champs. I wouldn’t even think about running Sym without at least 3/5
  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    Worknprogress said:

    GOTG said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Egor_135 said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Do you have mystic dispersion unlocked? Bc he's basically unplayable without it at a bare minimum MD3 imo but I won't even use him without at least MD4

    Hmm well that sucks, I never unlocked MD because I never had any good mystic champs.I got magik and ghost rider at rank 4 but never felt the need of MD.So basically you're saying he's potato without MD?
    He's far from a potato but he can be incredibly frustrating to use and every fight will be incredibly long. For the Champion fight I absolutely think he NEEDS MD.

    I would definitely look into starting to unlock it. It's a worthwhile investment if you ever have any intention of using him. His power gain is atrocious without it. I'm not sure it would even be possible to keep his rotation going for the champion fight without it at 3 at a minimum. I don't even like using him without 4 points in it personally. I used a R2 6* sym with MD3 for the champion fight, he's now R3 and I've unlocked MD4 to make him less of a chore to use.

    You'll find VERY few people that will use him without MD with at least 3 points honestly
    I did Abyss completion with SS and 0 point on MD. He starts slowly but once he got rotation nothing can stop him. Soloed Cull with him.

    MD makes him incredible but you can use him without it.
    That's easy path abyss, nowhere in it do you need to fire off specials in quick succession, you just need to be able to nullify. Good luck doing that on 6.2.6 champion or 90% of other places people typically use sym
    I explored 6.2 with SS and 0 point on MD as well. Used several revives on the way - don't know if I could save them with MD - but still it's doable.

    I will do other paths on Abyss and 3 points on MD is an option but I hate changing mastery middle of the quest and I need other mastery as well so it depends.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    GOTG said:

    Worknprogress said:

    GOTG said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Egor_135 said:

    Worknprogress said:

    Do you have mystic dispersion unlocked? Bc he's basically unplayable without it at a bare minimum MD3 imo but I won't even use him without at least MD4

    Hmm well that sucks, I never unlocked MD because I never had any good mystic champs.I got magik and ghost rider at rank 4 but never felt the need of MD.So basically you're saying he's potato without MD?
    He's far from a potato but he can be incredibly frustrating to use and every fight will be incredibly long. For the Champion fight I absolutely think he NEEDS MD.

    I would definitely look into starting to unlock it. It's a worthwhile investment if you ever have any intention of using him. His power gain is atrocious without it. I'm not sure it would even be possible to keep his rotation going for the champion fight without it at 3 at a minimum. I don't even like using him without 4 points in it personally. I used a R2 6* sym with MD3 for the champion fight, he's now R3 and I've unlocked MD4 to make him less of a chore to use.

    You'll find VERY few people that will use him without MD with at least 3 points honestly
    I did Abyss completion with SS and 0 point on MD. He starts slowly but once he got rotation nothing can stop him. Soloed Cull with him.

    MD makes him incredible but you can use him without it.
    That's easy path abyss, nowhere in it do you need to fire off specials in quick succession, you just need to be able to nullify. Good luck doing that on 6.2.6 champion or 90% of other places people typically use sym
    I explored 6.2 with SS and 0 point on MD as well. Used several revives on the way - don't know if I could save them with MD - but still it's doable.

    I will do other paths on Abyss and 3 points on MD is an option but I hate changing mastery middle of the quest and I need other mastery as well so it depends.
    Is it possible? Sure. But with MD you can either solo or at least wipe out the 1st 90% of that fight once you get into his sp2 rotation
  • LesktheGlut_666LesktheGlut_666 Member Posts: 83 ★
    I appreciate this is an old post but some guidance would be great.
    I have SS 5* R4 at sig 200 and an unawakened SS as a 6*.
    Can't decide who to take up, any feedback would be great. TIA
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