When can we expect our battlegrounds rewards?

Dannycorb23

I neeeeeed themmm

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Heisenberg750

Waiting for rewards in this game is like playing all EOPs altogether

デフォルト

I neeeeeed themmm

for real! i've been waiting for my juicy 6-star shards

デフォルト

i think it will come out November 18th (GMT+8)

RamQuvss

i dont even know why i worry about the rewards being late, i only scored 43k in the solo event...

Sean_Who

Have to make sure they don't accidentally ban any whales too, gotta filter those out manually.

Would be interesting to see if they show leaderboards this time after bans.
Why would a "whale" need to cheat? What kind of stupid comment is that?

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.

Legally? What law is that breaking? That's a stupid comment. They show final placements for war seasons, it's no different than that.

Did you play BG at a high level? You would know that being a whale doesn't stop people cheating...

frodo2377

We have to pay our time for cheaters?? I can’t wait to get rewards.. i want it so badly.. ban cheaters for a month atleast for ruining other players around the globe’s rewards and time.
Why do we have wait coz the cheaters cheated??
If they did that they’d lose a lot of money. Chances are a lot cheaters acquire units based on bots or cheap odens. To ban them would make them stop playing which in turn makes kabam less money.

If Kabam refuses to ban high level accounts for cheating becuase it might cost them money....they'll loose any confidence of integrity in the game. Period. You can't run any competitive game mode like that.

KAYDA_F2P

Well, there are plenty of examples of cheaters, both in BG and AW, still active in this game... there are alliances where members run mods, among the top 100... and they are still active… so I don't think there's a grey, bearded wizard standing and saying "You shall not pass" at the outer limit of what's legal...and they don't fall into a deep black hole they can't crawl out of either...🧙🏻‍♂️

TheLightBringer

Well, there are plenty of examples of cheaters, both in BG and AW, still active in this game... there are alliances where members run mods, among the top 100... and they are still active… so I don't think there's a grey, bearded wizard standing and saying "You shall not pass" at the outer limit of what's legal...and they don't fall into a deep black hole they can't crawl out of either...🧙🏻‍♂️

That's why I couldn't care about the fact that kabam is delaying rewards to filter cheaters, they couldn't do that in the past and I don't think much will change now, I hope I'm wrong though

3ugene_Paul_Patilio

"Hey everyone,
Got word back from the game team. At this point in their investigation the team has decided that no action can be taken to issue these rewards; the analysis of data came back inconclusive. They will, instead, turn their attention to trying to ensure this issue does not reappear in future."

IYKYK 😂

frodo2377

Ya that is something I don't get. Not sure how that comes back as "inconclusive".

Mauled

Because so many of the whales have big budgets and fat thumbs. A fat roster isn’t an indication of skill. There are big whales with skills - the likes of 4Loki, NewN. I only played 2-3 TCN members through the whole season but a gazillion other masterful+ players because they’re sat there with their butler’s phone match making their alts.

Have to make sure they don't accidentally ban any whales too, gotta filter those out manually.

Would be interesting to see if they show leaderboards this time after bans.
Why would a "whale" need to cheat? What kind of stupid comment is that?

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.

NegativePerson

Because so many of the whales have big budgets and fat thumbs. A fat roster isn’t an indication of skill. There are big whales with skills - the likes of 4Loki, NewN. I only played 2-3 TCN members through the whole season but a gazillion other masterful+ players because they’re sat there with their butler’s phone match making their alts.
Have to make sure they don't accidentally ban any whales too, gotta filter those out manually.

Would be interesting to see if they show leaderboards this time after bans.
Why would a "whale" need to cheat? What kind of stupid comment is that?

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.

Have to make sure they don't accidentally ban any whales too, gotta filter those out manually.

Would be interesting to see if they show leaderboards this time after bans.
Why would a "whale" need to cheat? What kind of stupid comment is that?

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.

I played with a lot of TCN and more than half using cheats 100%.
Same told my ally members who either in celestial/myst

Wicket329

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.
This guy acting like Kabam would catch a libel lawsuit for showing us igns of folks who get banned for cheating.

You must make a killing as a defense lawyer 😂😂😂😂
If Kabam's Lawyers say they're prohibited from sharing that information, they're not going to contradict that, no matter how entitled to the information people feel. It's not a question of want. It's a question of not going to happen.
What you call "entitled" is what normal people call "accountability" or "transparency".
Transparency doesn't entail breaking the law to reveal information.
"Law"

Please detail said "laws" that apply to IGNs on a mobile app. Please detail what injury would caused to someone by an IGN being on a leaderboard and then removed.

Me thinks you're not a legal scholar.

Aight, well then I’ll weigh in as a legal scholar.

Your original statement was to the effect of disbelief that Kabam would be sued for defamation if they made public a list of in-game name of accounts banned for modding. You are half right. It is fairly well settled law (in most nations) that the truth is a defense to any defamation claim (this is suuuuper simplified for the purposes of this discussion, there’s still a lot of nuance here), and assuming Kabam knows for sure that the player is modding and can prove it, then they would win such a lawsuit.

But what you’re forgetting is nobody wants to deal with a lawsuit. Sure, Kabam would win if it got to that point, but it’s far more likely that they’d reach an out of court settlement where they end up shelling out some amount of money less than they would’ve paid in attorney’s fees for having to handle the lawsuit.

It’s not a question of legal or illegal, it’s a question of “could this action result in some frivolous or bad faith lawsuit (or even a legitimate one if we messed up the ban) that we don’t want to deal with.” Kabam’s legal department says yes, it could result in a lawsuit, so we’re not gonna do that.

From what I can tell, it’s fairly standard practice in the gaming industry not to name players who are having action taken against them, possibly for this reason. I don’t know if this is why Kabam chooses not to publish names, but it does make some sense. Just because something is legal, does not mean it is without consequence or cost.

Chovner

Yeah many of these posts could have been avoided if they had announced the rewards would be several days delayed in paying out after the event ended during the season 2 announcement notes. A lot people assumed it would take a couple hours like with AW and AQ.
It's understandable that they're trying to make it as fair as possible for everyone and getting out the cheaters, but the heads up on this right from the start would have been ideal

MorningstarIsBae

"Hey everyone,
Got word back from the game team. At this point in their investigation the team has decided that no action can be taken to issue these rewards; the analysis of data came back inconclusive. They will, instead, turn their attention to trying to ensure this issue does not reappear in future."

IYKYK 😂

Exactly lol. Some of us didnt even get season 1 rewards and everyone here talking about season 2 rewards. Thats a lot of faith

Woody141082

For Christ sake Kabam hurry up with these rewards, I want to make personnel changes to the alliance but everything is road blocked and handcuffed for these battleground rewards. People dare not leave their current alliances, and we don’t want to kick people until they get their rewards. Yesterday and today would of been ideal to make changes, AQ break and the midweek war break and now we are still waiting and placement phase starts shortly, so that’s another 2 days at least before we can make changes. Get your act together, something seriously needs to be done in the future about this

Jaded

Would have been nice to have at least ally rewards out so we could have switched alliances before aq/aw started today.

pseudosane

Would have been nice to have at least ally rewards out so we could have switched alliances before aq/aw started today.

unfortunately planning isnt part of the game team's forte.

MagicBenton

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.
This guy acting like Kabam would catch a libel lawsuit for showing us igns of folks who get banned for cheating.

You must make a killing as a defense lawyer 😂😂😂😂
If Kabam's Lawyers say they're prohibited from sharing that information, they're not going to contradict that, no matter how entitled to the information people feel. It's not a question of want. It's a question of not going to happen.
What you call "entitled" is what normal people call "accountability" or "transparency".
Transparency doesn't entail breaking the law to reveal information.
"Law"

Please detail said "laws" that apply to IGNs on a mobile app. Please detail what injury would caused to someone by an IGN being on a leaderboard and then removed.

Me thinks you're not a legal scholar.
Aight, well then I’ll weigh in as a legal scholar.

Your original statement was to the effect of disbelief that Kabam would be sued for defamation if they made public a list of in-game name of accounts banned for modding. You are half right. It is fairly well settled law (in most nations) that the truth is a defense to any defamation claim (this is suuuuper simplified for the purposes of this discussion, there’s still a lot of nuance here), and assuming Kabam knows for sure that the player is modding and can prove it, then they would win such a lawsuit.

But what you’re forgetting is nobody wants to deal with a lawsuit. Sure, Kabam would win if it got to that point, but it’s far more likely that they’d reach an out of court settlement where they end up shelling out some amount of money less than they would’ve paid in attorney’s fees for having to handle the lawsuit.

It’s not a question of legal or illegal, it’s a question of “could this action result in some frivolous or bad faith lawsuit (or even a legitimate one if we messed up the ban) that we don’t want to deal with.” Kabam’s legal department says yes, it could result in a lawsuit, so we’re not gonna do that.

From what I can tell, it’s fairly standard practice in the gaming industry not to name players who are having action taken against them, possibly for this reason. I don’t know if this is why Kabam chooses not to publish names, but it does make some sense. Just because something is legal, does not mean it is without consequence or cost.

Nobody is asking for the names/list of banned players, just an updated leaderboard like they do in AW after they clear out the cheaters. There is no harm in that, but it's not going to happen.

Ceo_Wakeford

They will send rewards friday 10:00 am

Wicket329

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.
This guy acting like Kabam would catch a libel lawsuit for showing us igns of folks who get banned for cheating.

You must make a killing as a defense lawyer 😂😂😂😂
If Kabam's Lawyers say they're prohibited from sharing that information, they're not going to contradict that, no matter how entitled to the information people feel. It's not a question of want. It's a question of not going to happen.
What you call "entitled" is what normal people call "accountability" or "transparency".
Transparency doesn't entail breaking the law to reveal information.
"Law"

Please detail said "laws" that apply to IGNs on a mobile app. Please detail what injury would caused to someone by an IGN being on a leaderboard and then removed.

Me thinks you're not a legal scholar.
Aight, well then I’ll weigh in as a legal scholar.

Your original statement was to the effect of disbelief that Kabam would be sued for defamation if they made public a list of in-game name of accounts banned for modding. You are half right. It is fairly well settled law (in most nations) that the truth is a defense to any defamation claim (this is suuuuper simplified for the purposes of this discussion, there’s still a lot of nuance here), and assuming Kabam knows for sure that the player is modding and can prove it, then they would win such a lawsuit.

But what you’re forgetting is nobody wants to deal with a lawsuit. Sure, Kabam would win if it got to that point, but it’s far more likely that they’d reach an out of court settlement where they end up shelling out some amount of money less than they would’ve paid in attorney’s fees for having to handle the lawsuit.

It’s not a question of legal or illegal, it’s a question of “could this action result in some frivolous or bad faith lawsuit (or even a legitimate one if we messed up the ban) that we don’t want to deal with.” Kabam’s legal department says yes, it could result in a lawsuit, so we’re not gonna do that.

From what I can tell, it’s fairly standard practice in the gaming industry not to name players who are having action taken against them, possibly for this reason. I don’t know if this is why Kabam chooses not to publish names, but it does make some sense. Just because something is legal, does not mean it is without consequence or cost.
Nobody is asking for the names/list of banned players, just an updated leaderboard like they do in AW after they clear out the cheaters. There is no harm in that, but it's not going to happen.

I mean, at least one person is. And it’s the person I was responding to.

I tend to agree that a final leaderboard is probably safe and fine, and honestly I think last time they said it was a technical problem that resulted in the final leaderboard not being made public in game. But I can see a reason why a company may decide it’s more trouble than it’s worth.

DNA3000

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.
This guy acting like Kabam would catch a libel lawsuit for showing us igns of folks who get banned for cheating.

You must make a killing as a defense lawyer 😂😂😂😂
If Kabam's Lawyers say they're prohibited from sharing that information, they're not going to contradict that, no matter how entitled to the information people feel. It's not a question of want. It's a question of not going to happen.
What you call "entitled" is what normal people call "accountability" or "transparency".
Transparency doesn't entail breaking the law to reveal information.
"Law"

Please detail said "laws" that apply to IGNs on a mobile app. Please detail what injury would caused to someone by an IGN being on a leaderboard and then removed.

Me thinks you're not a legal scholar.
Aight, well then I’ll weigh in as a legal scholar.

Your original statement was to the effect of disbelief that Kabam would be sued for defamation if they made public a list of in-game name of accounts banned for modding. You are half right. It is fairly well settled law (in most nations) that the truth is a defense to any defamation claim (this is suuuuper simplified for the purposes of this discussion, there’s still a lot of nuance here), and assuming Kabam knows for sure that the player is modding and can prove it, then they would win such a lawsuit.

But what you’re forgetting is nobody wants to deal with a lawsuit. Sure, Kabam would win if it got to that point, but it’s far more likely that they’d reach an out of court settlement where they end up shelling out some amount of money less than they would’ve paid in attorney’s fees for having to handle the lawsuit.

It’s not a question of legal or illegal, it’s a question of “could this action result in some frivolous or bad faith lawsuit (or even a legitimate one if we messed up the ban) that we don’t want to deal with.” Kabam’s legal department says yes, it could result in a lawsuit, so we’re not gonna do that.

From what I can tell, it’s fairly standard practice in the gaming industry not to name players who are having action taken against them, possibly for this reason. I don’t know if this is why Kabam chooses not to publish names, but it does make some sense. Just because something is legal, does not mean it is without consequence or cost.

This summarizes the legal situation correctly, but I'm going to amplify this just a tad. The problem is not whether it is legal or not to disclose this information, and the problem is not whether Kabam's legal counsel wants to take these situations on either. The problem is Kabam's legal counsel has performed the legal analysis you've outlined above and decided for whatever reasons they chose to make the decision to set policy to not disclose this information.

This means if a Kabam employee decided to reveal this information to us, they would not necessarily be violating the law, they would instead be violating a directive from corporate legal counsel. This will get you fired. Not for breaking the law, but for insubordination, violation of corporate policy, and failing to fulfill the responsibilities of their employment. And they would be taking the further risk that this act would hang around their necks like an albatross and follow them to any potential future employer.

Years ago I made the argument to Kabam that it was perfectly legal to disclose this type of information. And the argument went much further than the armchair legal scholars on the forums typically take it, delving into the areas of disclosure and privacy policy. What I was ultimately told was words to the effect that they will take their legal counsel's opinion on the matter over mine. And I had no response to that, because they are right to do so. When your lawyer says one thing and some schmuck on the internet says something else, your lawyer should have the last word and in this case they do, and there's nothing I or anyone else on the forums could possibly say that would or should matter.

Kabam's operations personnel must follow the directives of their managers, their supervisors, their corporate officers, and their corporate legal counsel. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong, if their legal opinions are valid or invalid. They are the ones in charge. And the people in charge don't answer to us.

Renaxqq

How many days we will have to wait?

TheParasite

i am already starting to forget we played battlegrounds

Wicket329

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.
This guy acting like Kabam would catch a libel lawsuit for showing us igns of folks who get banned for cheating.

You must make a killing as a defense lawyer 😂😂😂😂
If Kabam's Lawyers say they're prohibited from sharing that information, they're not going to contradict that, no matter how entitled to the information people feel. It's not a question of want. It's a question of not going to happen.
What you call "entitled" is what normal people call "accountability" or "transparency".
Transparency doesn't entail breaking the law to reveal information.
"Law"

Please detail said "laws" that apply to IGNs on a mobile app. Please detail what injury would caused to someone by an IGN being on a leaderboard and then removed.

Me thinks you're not a legal scholar.
Aight, well then I’ll weigh in as a legal scholar.

Your original statement was to the effect of disbelief that Kabam would be sued for defamation if they made public a list of in-game name of accounts banned for modding. You are half right. It is fairly well settled law (in most nations) that the truth is a defense to any defamation claim (this is suuuuper simplified for the purposes of this discussion, there’s still a lot of nuance here), and assuming Kabam knows for sure that the player is modding and can prove it, then they would win such a lawsuit.

But what you’re forgetting is nobody wants to deal with a lawsuit. Sure, Kabam would win if it got to that point, but it’s far more likely that they’d reach an out of court settlement where they end up shelling out some amount of money less than they would’ve paid in attorney’s fees for having to handle the lawsuit.

It’s not a question of legal or illegal, it’s a question of “could this action result in some frivolous or bad faith lawsuit (or even a legitimate one if we messed up the ban) that we don’t want to deal with.” Kabam’s legal department says yes, it could result in a lawsuit, so we’re not gonna do that.

From what I can tell, it’s fairly standard practice in the gaming industry not to name players who are having action taken against them, possibly for this reason. I don’t know if this is why Kabam chooses not to publish names, but it does make some sense. Just because something is legal, does not mean it is without consequence or cost.
When your lawyer says one thing and some schmuck on the internet says something else, your lawyer should have the last word

Can I please get this framed and maybe have you yell it through a megaphone at my clients

GroundedWisdom

The leaderboard won't change like last time because they're legally not able to show who gets banned or anything.
This guy acting like Kabam would catch a libel lawsuit for showing us igns of folks who get banned for cheating.

You must make a killing as a defense lawyer 😂😂😂😂
If Kabam's Lawyers say they're prohibited from sharing that information, they're not going to contradict that, no matter how entitled to the information people feel. It's not a question of want. It's a question of not going to happen.
What you call "entitled" is what normal people call "accountability" or "transparency".
Transparency doesn't entail breaking the law to reveal information.
"Law"

Please detail said "laws" that apply to IGNs on a mobile app. Please detail what injury would caused to someone by an IGN being on a leaderboard and then removed.

Me thinks you're not a legal scholar.
Aight, well then I’ll weigh in as a legal scholar.

Your original statement was to the effect of disbelief that Kabam would be sued for defamation if they made public a list of in-game name of accounts banned for modding. You are half right. It is fairly well settled law (in most nations) that the truth is a defense to any defamation claim (this is suuuuper simplified for the purposes of this discussion, there’s still a lot of nuance here), and assuming Kabam knows for sure that the player is modding and can prove it, then they would win such a lawsuit.

But what you’re forgetting is nobody wants to deal with a lawsuit. Sure, Kabam would win if it got to that point, but it’s far more likely that they’d reach an out of court settlement where they end up shelling out some amount of money less than they would’ve paid in attorney’s fees for having to handle the lawsuit.

It’s not a question of legal or illegal, it’s a question of “could this action result in some frivolous or bad faith lawsuit (or even a legitimate one if we messed up the ban) that we don’t want to deal with.” Kabam’s legal department says yes, it could result in a lawsuit, so we’re not gonna do that.

From what I can tell, it’s fairly standard practice in the gaming industry not to name players who are having action taken against them, possibly for this reason. I don’t know if this is why Kabam chooses not to publish names, but it does make some sense. Just because something is legal, does not mean it is without consequence or cost.
When your lawyer says one thing and some schmuck on the internet says something else, your lawyer should have the last word
Can I please get this framed and maybe have you yell it through a megaphone at my clients

I suspect Physicians feel the same way with Google MD.

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gmonie333

i am already starting to forget we played battlegrounds

Battlegrounds?
What's that?

limeade31

When does battlegrounds season 2 start? I got the rewards from season 1 already so I'm assuming season 2 starts next.