Gwenpool duped ability

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• Ceder Member Posts: 668 ★★★

  December 2022

  Does anyone know the exact scaling for the defensive ability accuracy reduction? It's not listed for some reason

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• Magrailothos Member Posts: 6,031 ★★★★★

  December 2022

  Ceder said:

  Does anyone know the exact scaling for the defensive ability accuracy reduction? It's not listed for some reason

  A lot of older champions have slightly vague abilities. Take a look at Black Bolt's Sig ability, which gives him 'a chance' to proc a buff when struck.
  
  A long time ago, one of the mods gave the impression that Gwenpool's DAA was about 2% per hit. This has largely become accepted fact; but I don't know if anyone's dug into the coding to check it out.
  
  On the other hand, there have certainly been 'Bug' threads here and there about her opponents defensive abilities triggering at 50+ hits, and they never seem to get answered.

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• Total_Domin01 Member Posts: 1,015 ★★★★

  December 2022

  Magrailothos said:

  Ceder said:

  Does anyone know the exact scaling for the defensive ability accuracy reduction? It's not listed for some reason

  A lot of older champions have slightly vague abilities. Take a look at Black Bolt's Sig ability, which gives him 'a chance' to proc a buff when struck.
  
  A long time ago, one of the mods gave the impression that Gwenpool's DAA was about 2% per hit. This has largely become accepted fact; but I don't know if anyone's dug into the coding to check it out.
  
  On the other hand, there have certainly been 'Bug' threads here and there about her opponents defensive abilities triggering at 50+ hits, and they never seem to get answered.

  It might max out at a certain point that isn’t mentioned

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• Noob_Master69 Member Posts: 700 ★★★★

  December 2022

  https://auntm.ai/champions/gwenpool/tier/6 Auntmai mentions it at 2% per hit maxing out after 50 hits, not sure exactly where Duckslug gets his info from but I trust it's as verified as it gets without Kabam directly mentioning it.
  
  And if you didn't know it before, I highly reccomend the website, especially for these more vague abilities

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• RichardSlugberg Member Posts: 82 ★★

  December 2022

  Magrailothos said:

  I don't know if anyone's dug into the coding to check it out.

  Noob_Master69 said:

  not sure exactly where Duckslug gets his info from

  It's been a bit, so I thought I'd re-verify it, just checked and it's still 2% per hit in her combo. It doesn't appear to be capped at 100% either, so champions with >100% ability accuracy could be reduced further if nothing else prevents it.

  Magrailothos said:

  On the other hand, there have certainly been 'Bug' threads here and there about her opponents defensive abilities triggering at 50+ hits, and they never seem to get answered.

  I might be able to explain why that would happen (I just explain, I don't justify that it's right, or intentional)
  
  Gwenpool's defensive AAR is only active on the frame the attack lands (she has a separate anti-evade mechanism that also uses 2% per hit. Evade can be complicated too and there are some nuanced restrictions that may or may not come into play - things like node based evade can be tricky).
  
  Since the ability accuracy is reduced on the attack connecting it only affects chance abilities that would trigger that frame, some abilities are multi-part, with (hypothetical example) an initial trigger, and that trigger cascades on the next frame as the trigger for the "multi-part" ability.
  
  There's also just cases where abilities cannot be reduced to 0%
  
  If you have an example where you know this has happened I can take a look at the ability that's getting through and see if I can shed any additional light on it.

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