Maybe, just maybe, Battlegrounds needs a tweak

Scottyb421980

If you can't win a round, let alone a battle in 10 fights, why should we continue? Surely matchmaking can be tweaked where it's not a continuous pummeling.

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Ngoalong711

wow. victory track with 1 win

Giantwalrus56

Without knowing your roster or skillset(how would I), it's seems as though you've hit your wall. Most of us have one. That said, you've made it to diamond 1, which is 8 wins from GC, so you must of been doing something right

Scottyb421980

It's not the worst roster.... but still I can get no further traction. That is just my rank 3-4 6*

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LordSmasher

Why are you struggling? Your roster is stacked, your prestige/rating is high.
You're losing, but you don't say why. What about your actual fights?

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Scottyb421980

Why are you struggling? Your roster is stacked, your prestige/rating is high.
You're losing, but you don't say why. What about your actual fights?

No idea. If I get 50,000 points, they get 54,000. Nothing seems to work. I mean I have fights where mine times out after say 90 seconds, and they show their fight finished in 105 seconds. So could a older device mean a longer load time, and longer fight time? I have people roll me in under 25 seconds. I've never finished my fight that fast.

Scottyb421980

maybe you are using wrong champs in your deck for the nodes.

Any suggestions? For current meta.... I literally have most champs I can switch.

H3t3r

Really boils down to skill at this point. With your roster getting to GC shouldn't be this hard.

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xLunatiXx

Seems like a drafting skill and gameplay skill issue to me 🤷‍♂️

Scottyb421980

Seems like a drafting skill and gameplay skill issue to me 🤷‍♂️

I thought the same. But even monkeys evolve. I'm not, which doesn't sit right. I'm losing defence in under 30 seconds, my offence isn't doing the same.

Mauled

BG is a balance between roster, skill and knowledge. In terms of deck building I/the internet can help you build a deck that's solid but ultimately it is up to you to learn roughly how quickly X can take down Y, if it's possible.

It looks like you've got the makings of a very solid deck, you're missing a few champs that I always like to see, it is comparable to mine, so you shouldn't be getting out-rostered in most matchups, at least not at this stage in the season and not in the VC.

I've done pretty well, mid-C6 right now so I'd say my method is working:

The Ban Stage:
1 - Look at their roster - are there any champions you've got no idea how to fight eg the new Mystic Spiderman or Shuri
2 - Are there any champions that you hate fighting - e.g. Hulkling or Korg
3 - Are there any that you just don't have counters to, either due to your roster or because the global makes them OP - Hulkling or Sersei for example.

Ban a combination of these champions, I try to prioritise champions that they have that I don't where possible as that affects them but not me. If they have a niche champion at R4 I'll tend to ban them unless they are objectively not great because usually if someone takes up a non-meta champion up as their first or second R4s they're a champion that the user is very good with.

There's a few auto-bans when the user is running suicides: Omega Red, Elsa (if you're weak on the mutant front).

When you come to the draft stage don't just focus on picking your best attackers, focus on making life hard for the opponent as well. Depending on what I draft I'll try and pick an attacker and an awkward defender, something that poisons, has a large healthpool, is armour break immune or is a mystic tend to be good starting places. If you have champions in your deck - like Electro - that cause unavoidable damage it's sometimes worth picking early because the opponent will focus on trying to draft a counter - usually AA/Falcon - and if you can force them to save a A+ attacker for a defender you're not going to actually use then you've got the initiative.

If you want I can help build you a deck for next season and run a few practice games with you.

Cma1323

Regardless of skill and considering all the other issues like match making, input and connection issues, and modders I would agree that victory track at the least needs a tweak. It should be just about that, the victories and not the losses, meaning you don't lose your victory coins or whatever they are when you lose. The game mode is fun but it can be discouraging to win, lose, win, win, lose, lose, win, lose and have nothing to show for the resources and time you put in, aside from minor solo objective rewards. I am pretty casual about the game mode myself and pretty much just do the victory objectives and maybe and extra couple of fights to see how far I get then stop once I hit a wall but have made it to P1 and pretty content there and not gonna grind or spend units or other resources on shields. Some may disagree with me but from what I see in chat rooms and forums there are a lot of dissatisfied players with the game mode as it is. I think if players got to keep the victories at the least to build on in victory track to continuously build on, it would make it more enjoyable and less discouraging and more people would shoot for circuit and play the game mode.

Hort4

If you don’t go backwards when you lose then it comes down then there would be a big benefit to players that play alot and not necessarily the skilled.

SpecM

It's not the worst roster....

I only have 3 6* R3s and 2 of them get banned almost every single time(Doom and Omega Sentinel) and yet I'm in Gladiators Circuit. This is not normal...

Mauled

It's not the worst roster....
I only have 3 6* R3s and 2 of them get banned almost every single time(Doom and Omega Sentinel) and yet I'm in Gladiators Circuit. This is not normal...

You shouldn’t be.

Ironman3000

It's not the worst roster....
I only have 3 6* R3s and 2 of them get banned almost every single time(Doom and Omega Sentinel) and yet I'm in Gladiators Circuit. This is not normal...

Well, this is the issue. They pushed you to the VT because their matchmaking is garbage so now you are in the GC and can't win.

Chikel

With that roster, you shouldn't have issues making GC. I did it with only 3 r4's and less than 2 mil rating.

Perhaps post a gameplay video we can offer advice based on that

zaspacer

If you can't win a round, let alone a battle in 10 fights, why should we continue? Surely matchmaking can be tweaked where it's not a continuous pummeling.

I feel your pain.

I was also stuck in Victory Track. I was ready to just give up on the mode. Farm it for basic rewards. Stop progression when I hit that hard wall of losses. Then just wait until the next Season.

Then I remembered sandbagging. Applied said knowledge. Started getting wins again. Made it into Gladiator Circuit.

I think the important thing to remember is that this is still a very new mode. Kabam is still figuring out how to match players, and also make other changes to the mode. Players are still figuring out tricks to get best results. And most of that info is not widely known and shared in the community.

So as a player you end up hitting walls. Walls that other players are figuring out tricks to get around. Walls that other player's tricks are causing you to hit. Walls that Kabam needs to fix with better matchmaking. But walls that you have no idea what is causing them or how to get around.

You can either try to figure out what tricks other people are using to get results. Or you can wait. Wait for Kabam to figure out how to tune the mode to be more playable. Wait for players to publish guides on how to use tricks to get better results.

Keep in mind also that Victory Track gets easier later in the Season because lots of the harder opponents have left Victory Track by then.

And I do think that your making this post is also a great way to communicate to Kabam that this is an ongoing real problem. And Kabam needs to both fix it AND talk about it publicly now. Because the longer this mode has bad matchmaking, and the longer players have no public info on this problem, the more and more players are gonna be confused and frustrated, and the more players are gonna give up on it and stop playing it.