7* shards crystal

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?

Comments

Ghost_Fan

It's gonna be 10K shards

Skunkcabbage

It's gonna be 10K shards

Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!

Buttehrs

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!

Nothing official from kabam yet, however when you see how many shards you get for a dupe, it's the same as 5 and 6* shards, therefore it should be the same amount for a crystal.

TyEdge

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!
Nothing official from kabam yet, however when you see how many shards you get for a dupe, it's the same as 5 and 6* shards, therefore it should be the same amount for a crystal.

Just like dual class crystals.

Oh…

Skunkcabbage

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!
Nothing official from kabam yet, however when you see how many shards you get for a dupe, it's the same as 5 and 6* shards, therefore it should be the same amount for a crystal.

If that's how simple it is why isn't it written anywhere officially?

Thomildo

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?

My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️

Demonzfyre

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️

Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?

DanielRand

While it's unsurprising that you would have an issue understanding logic, I will try to simplify. Logic is generally used to ascertain unknown facts by using existing information and past experience. For those who have played this game since the beginning we have seen a pattern of hero crystals and shards to reach the next level. As such 6* crystals dupe that generate 275 7* shards SHOULD follow the pattern of 5* and 6* crystals before. But as always there are no guarantees with Kabam.

Buttehrs

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!
Nothing official from kabam yet, however when you see how many shards you get for a dupe, it's the same as 5 and 6* shards, therefore it should be the same amount for a crystal.
Just like dual class crystals.

Oh…

Except when the 6* duals came out, kabam said the 5* duals should have been 12k as well looking back. Which makes sense because your paying extra shards to reduce the amount of champs in the pool for better RNG.

SaltE_Wenis69

Me personally, would like them to be 2000 shards maybe even 1000 like the solo crystal thingys

Falconi

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?

Logic that entails when we open 3-4* crystal the dupe we get gives out nearly about 1/37 times shards that says we have to open and get shards about 37 times (rounded off) to open next tier crystal whatever it maybe, the same logic that's says if we want to open a 5-6* crystal that is 10k at price, we get equal number of shards which is 275 from 4* crystal which if u multiply by 37 times that result in price of 1 5-6* crystal, so when ALL THE PLAYER BASE IS RECEIVING 275 of those 7* shards it's pretty logical it will be worth 10k and follows the same logic since 3* crystals formations. The ratio of shards output from 3-4*-5*-6* crystal is 100% same so it is logical that it will follow the same for 7*. Got it?

GroundedWisdom

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?
Logic that entails when we open 3-4* crystal the dupe we get gives out nearly about 1/37 times shards that says we have to open and get shards about 37 times (rounded off) to open next tier crystal whatever it maybe, the same logic that's says if we want to open a 5-6* crystal that is 10k at price, we get equal number of shards which is 275 from 4* crystal which if u multiply by 37 times that result in price of 1 5-6* crystal, so when ALL THE PLAYER BASE IS RECEIVING 275 of those 7* shards it's pretty logical it will be worth 10k and follows the same logic since 3* crystals formations. The ratio of shards output from 3-4*-5*-6* crystal is 100% same so it is logical that it will follow the same for 7*. Got it?

It really all depends how slowly they want 7*s to roll out. Logically one could assume they'll be 10k, but if they wanted to ease them in more, they could make it 15k or 20k. It entirely depends on how fast they want/are prepared for 7*s entering the meta.

Demonzfyre

While it's unsurprising that you would have an issue understanding logic, I will try to simplify. Logic is generally used to ascertain unknown facts by using existing information and past experience. For those who have played this game since the beginning we have seen a pattern of hero crystals and shards to reach the next level. As such 6* crystals dupe that generate 275 7* shards SHOULD follow the pattern of 5* and 6* crystals before. But as always there are no guarantees with Kabam.

Do you no know how to quote someone anymore or what?

If you really want to talk about patterns-

3*/4*= 2k.

5*/6*=10k

So every 2 rarity additions, crystal costs go up. So your "duped shard" logic contradicts my "rarity addition" logic. Who is right and who is wrong?

I am 90% sure it's going to be 10k. The other 10% I hold reservations that it will be 15k or higher to slow the progression curve down a bit for the longevity of the game. Even though we're getting 275 7* shards for 6* dupes, I can see it being a way to slow how many 7*'s will flood the game in the spring when we can open them. We've been collecting 6*'s for years and anyone who's been playing that long is duping nearly all their 6*'s. I don't open that many 6*'s compared to many but I'm at 14,575. I'll probably be able to open at least 3 by the time we can. Whales will have way more obviously. But giving 275 for a dupe and making the crystal 15k would slow that acquisition rate down a bit.

The only logic to follow is that there is no logic. it's just however Kabam wants to control the progression of the game.

Ghost_Fan

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!

I don't know if this is ironic or not. Not really sure. Anyways, Jax said that the current number is a visualization so we know how many 7* shards we have.
6* dupes give the same amount of 7* shards as the previous star levels. So it's pretty safe to assume it's gonna be 10k again.
Kabam won't dare to increase it anyways cause its gonna cause a big backslash.

Skunkcabbage

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!
I don't know if this is ironic or not. Not really sure. Anyways, Jax said that the current number is a visualization so we know how many 7* shards we have.
6* dupes give the same amount of 7* shards as the previous star levels. So it's pretty safe to assume it's gonna be 10k again.
Kabam won't dare to increase it anyways cause its gonna cause a big backslash.

Thanks for your reply, so Kabam Jax has confirmed it's NOT 999,999,999 shards for a 7* - that's great! Can he also confirm it's going to cost 10k shards for a 7* crystal while he's discussing the issue of cost?
I'm surprised he wouldn't say this at the time when he was previously discussing it, that you mentioned.

Demonzfyre

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!
I don't know if this is ironic or not. Not really sure. Anyways, Jax said that the current number is a visualization so we know how many 7* shards we have.
6* dupes give the same amount of 7* shards as the previous star levels. So it's pretty safe to assume it's gonna be 10k again.
Kabam won't dare to increase it anyways cause its gonna cause a big backslash.
Thanks for your reply, so Kabam Jax has confirmed it's NOT 999,999,999 shards for a 7* - that's great! Can he also confirm it's going to cost 10k shards for a 7* crystal while he's discussing the issue of cost?
I'm surprised he wouldn't say this at the time when he was previously discussing it, that you mentioned.

He's not going to confirm that. They won't tell us until closer to when we can open them.

Demonzfyre

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?
Logic that entails when we open 3-4* crystal the dupe we get gives out nearly about 1/37 times shards that says we have to open and get shards about 37 times (rounded off) to open next tier crystal whatever it maybe, the same logic that's says if we want to open a 5-6* crystal that is 10k at price, we get equal number of shards which is 275 from 4* crystal which if u multiply by 37 times that result in price of 1 5-6* crystal, so when ALL THE PLAYER BASE IS RECEIVING 275 of those 7* shards it's pretty logical it will be worth 10k and follows the same logic since 3* crystals formations. The ratio of shards output from 3-4*-5*-6* crystal is 100% same so it is logical that it will follow the same for 7*. Got it?

We have 4 rarity shard crystals.

3*/4* are 2k to form.
5*/6* are 10k to form.

Logic tells us the next 2 rarities will be a different amount. To use your words at least.

Got it?

Pikolu

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?
Logic that entails when we open 3-4* crystal the dupe we get gives out nearly about 1/37 times shards that says we have to open and get shards about 37 times (rounded off) to open next tier crystal whatever it maybe, the same logic that's says if we want to open a 5-6* crystal that is 10k at price, we get equal number of shards which is 275 from 4* crystal which if u multiply by 37 times that result in price of 1 5-6* crystal, so when ALL THE PLAYER BASE IS RECEIVING 275 of those 7* shards it's pretty logical it will be worth 10k and follows the same logic since 3* crystals formations. The ratio of shards output from 3-4*-5*-6* crystal is 100% same so it is logical that it will follow the same for 7*. Got it?
We have 4 rarity shard crystals.

3*/4* are 2k to form.
5*/6* are 10k to form.

Logic tells us the next 2 rarities will be a different amount. To use your words at least.

Got it?

Kabam made them 10k because it is easier to visualize, and also makes it seem like it is more. If kabam really wanted, they could have made 5* and 6*s 2000 shards and have featureds be 3000 shards and have the 5* iso store featured be 2200. They just made it a bigger so it is easier for people to see how much they're getting. Also, getting 1,000 6* shards feels better than getting 200 6*s.

The amount of shards things cost is merely just a design choice, not a pattern.

Demonzfyre

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?
Logic that entails when we open 3-4* crystal the dupe we get gives out nearly about 1/37 times shards that says we have to open and get shards about 37 times (rounded off) to open next tier crystal whatever it maybe, the same logic that's says if we want to open a 5-6* crystal that is 10k at price, we get equal number of shards which is 275 from 4* crystal which if u multiply by 37 times that result in price of 1 5-6* crystal, so when ALL THE PLAYER BASE IS RECEIVING 275 of those 7* shards it's pretty logical it will be worth 10k and follows the same logic since 3* crystals formations. The ratio of shards output from 3-4*-5*-6* crystal is 100% same so it is logical that it will follow the same for 7*. Got it?
We have 4 rarity shard crystals.

3*/4* are 2k to form.
5*/6* are 10k to form.

Logic tells us the next 2 rarities will be a different amount. To use your words at least.

Got it?
Kabam made them 10k because it is easier to visualize, and also makes it seem like it is more. If kabam really wanted, they could have made 5* and 6*s 2000 shards and have featureds be 3000 shards and have the 5* iso store featured be 2200. They just made it a bigger so it is easier for people to see how much they're getting. Also, getting 1,000 6* shards feels better than getting 200 6*s.

The amount of shards things cost is merely just a design choice, not a pattern.

Completely disagree. I am not sure how 10k is easier to visualize over 2k. The increase in how much it takes to form crystals has more to do with the longevity of the game. The more it takes to form a crystals the long it takes for that rarity to take over the meta of the game. It took till the end of Act 5 for 5*'s to really be the meta. End of act 6 for 6*'s to start being the meta.

Kabam has generally had a slow drip for progression based stuff. The only exception right now is R5 materials for 6*'s Those came sooner than previous steps in progression.

Skunkcabbage

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!
I don't know if this is ironic or not. Not really sure. Anyways, Jax said that the current number is a visualization so we know how many 7* shards we have.
6* dupes give the same amount of 7* shards as the previous star levels. So it's pretty safe to assume it's gonna be 10k again.
Kabam won't dare to increase it anyways cause its gonna cause a big backslash.
Thanks for your reply, so Kabam Jax has confirmed it's NOT 999,999,999 shards for a 7* - that's great! Can he also confirm it's going to cost 10k shards for a 7* crystal while he's discussing the issue of cost?
I'm surprised he wouldn't say this at the time when he was previously discussing it, that you mentioned.
He's not going to confirm that. They won't tell us until closer to when we can open them.

Why? What is the reason?
If any members of staff use this forum maybe they could give some input?

Marvelfan30

I bet it's gonna be 15k

Thomildo

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?

The number of shards for duping a 6*
But then you have the dual class 6* crystal..🤷‍♂️
I’m not that concerned, i can wait for my 7* Groot..

GinjabredMonsta

My money is in increased price for them. The shiny new toy is gunna get a shiny new price

GroundedWisdom

My money is in increased price for them. The shiny new toy is gunna get a shiny new price

I'm suspecting more as well. Simply to slow down their introduction. I may be wrong. If I am, it will be a pleasant surprise.

Ghost_Fan

It's gonna be 10K shards
Thanks for the update, do you have the link to the post? I've been trying to find it for hours but wasn't as lucky as you!
I don't know if this is ironic or not. Not really sure. Anyways, Jax said that the current number is a visualization so we know how many 7* shards we have.
6* dupes give the same amount of 7* shards as the previous star levels. So it's pretty safe to assume it's gonna be 10k again.
Kabam won't dare to increase it anyways cause its gonna cause a big backslash.
I'm surprised he wouldn't say this at the time when he was previously discussing it, that you mentioned.

Maybe it's obvious enough that he doesn't have to even mention it?

Ackbar67

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?
Logic that entails when we open 3-4* crystal the dupe we get gives out nearly about 1/37 times shards that says we have to open and get shards about 37 times (rounded off) to open next tier crystal whatever it maybe, the same logic that's says if we want to open a 5-6* crystal that is 10k at price, we get equal number of shards which is 275 from 4* crystal which if u multiply by 37 times that result in price of 1 5-6* crystal, so when ALL THE PLAYER BASE IS RECEIVING 275 of those 7* shards it's pretty logical it will be worth 10k and follows the same logic since 3* crystals formations. The ratio of shards output from 3-4*-5*-6* crystal is 100% same so it is logical that it will follow the same for 7*. Got it?
We have 4 rarity shard crystals.

3*/4* are 2k to form.
5*/6* are 10k to form.

Logic tells us the next 2 rarities will be a different amount. To use your words at least.

Got it?

I would argue that the pattern that is more consistent is the more logical choice.

1* dupe: 0% of a 2*
2* dupe: 2.75% of a 3*
3* dupe: 2.75% of a 4*
4* dupe: 2.75% of a 5*
5* dupe: 2.75% of a 6*

1* crystals: 0/∞/NaN/null shards
2* crystals: 0/∞/NaN/null shards
3* crystals: 2000 shards
4* crystals: 2000 shards
5* crystals: 10000 shards
6* crystals: 10000 shards

I am much more inclined to believe they will be 10k shards, just because all dupes give 2.75% of a crystal, excluding 1*s

Skunkcabbage

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?
Logic that entails when we open 3-4* crystal the dupe we get gives out nearly about 1/37 times shards that says we have to open and get shards about 37 times (rounded off) to open next tier crystal whatever it maybe, the same logic that's says if we want to open a 5-6* crystal that is 10k at price, we get equal number of shards which is 275 from 4* crystal which if u multiply by 37 times that result in price of 1 5-6* crystal, so when ALL THE PLAYER BASE IS RECEIVING 275 of those 7* shards it's pretty logical it will be worth 10k and follows the same logic since 3* crystals formations. The ratio of shards output from 3-4*-5*-6* crystal is 100% same so it is logical that it will follow the same for 7*. Got it?
We have 4 rarity shard crystals.

3*/4* are 2k to form.
5*/6* are 10k to form.

Logic tells us the next 2 rarities will be a different amount. To use your words at least.

Got it?
I would argue that the pattern that is more consistent is the more logical choice.

1* dupe: 0% of a 2*
2* dupe: 2.75% of a 3*
3* dupe: 2.75% of a 4*
4* dupe: 2.75% of a 5*
5* dupe: 2.75% of a 6*

1* crystals: 0/∞/NaN/null shards
2* crystals: 0/∞/NaN/null shards
3* crystals: 2000 shards
4* crystals: 2000 shards
5* crystals: 10000 shards
6* crystals: 10000 shards

I am much more inclined to believe they will be 10k shards, just because all dupes give 2.75% of a crystal, excluding 1*s

That's not guaranteed though is it?

There's a reason why Kabam have intentionally withheld this information to date.

It could be that they are disorganised, or want to delay any increase in cost because spenders may slow down buying deals given that a 6* dupe would hold less value than they thought.

Any clarification from Kabam at this point would be highly beneficial for the community.

LeNoirFaineant

It is reasonable to assume that they will be 10k based on the shards from the 6* dupe but we've seen Kabam break patterns before. R1 6*s are more powerful than we would have assumed looking at the other rarities. I won't be surprised if they are more than 10k. As 7*s aren't coming out until spring, I doubt we will have confirmation from Kabam any time soon.

Demonzfyre

As far as I have read, nobody knows how many shards it will take to form a 7* crystal next year and anything so far’s been only speculation. Is it valid to think Kabam hasn’t announced the amount of shards necessary because they’re trying to measure how quickly we acquire 6* dups now to determine what the right amount of 7* shards would be to get a 7* crystal?
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have made that information known when they announced 7*’s if they still weren’t sure.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are: Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something. Logically they should be 10k, but logic and mcoc…🤷‍♂️
Which logic tells you it SHOULD be 10k?
Logic that entails when we open 3-4* crystal the dupe we get gives out nearly about 1/37 times shards that says we have to open and get shards about 37 times (rounded off) to open next tier crystal whatever it maybe, the same logic that's says if we want to open a 5-6* crystal that is 10k at price, we get equal number of shards which is 275 from 4* crystal which if u multiply by 37 times that result in price of 1 5-6* crystal, so when ALL THE PLAYER BASE IS RECEIVING 275 of those 7* shards it's pretty logical it will be worth 10k and follows the same logic since 3* crystals formations. The ratio of shards output from 3-4*-5*-6* crystal is 100% same so it is logical that it will follow the same for 7*. Got it?
We have 4 rarity shard crystals.

3*/4* are 2k to form.
5*/6* are 10k to form.

Logic tells us the next 2 rarities will be a different amount. To use your words at least.

Got it?
I would argue that the pattern that is more consistent is the more logical choice.

1* dupe: 0% of a 2*
2* dupe: 2.75% of a 3*
3* dupe: 2.75% of a 4*
4* dupe: 2.75% of a 5*
5* dupe: 2.75% of a 6*

1* crystals: 0/∞/NaN/null shards
2* crystals: 0/∞/NaN/null shards
3* crystals: 2000 shards
4* crystals: 2000 shards
5* crystals: 10000 shards
6* crystals: 10000 shards

I am much more inclined to believe they will be 10k shards, just because all dupes give 2.75% of a crystal, excluding 1*s

So what you're saying is there's many "patterns" and we're all guessing but none of us know. Gotcha.

Deacon

"because 7 stars offer a new power boost mechanic coupled with the economy of the game, the price for 7 star crystals had to reflect where the game's future is headed. so we set the price at 15K; featured crystals will be introduced at 20K for 7 star featured champs - Kabam"