Like every other game mode, if you use the wrong counter, you will have a bad time.
This is not a Git Gud post.
Not everyone has a deep enough roster to load up a full deck of power burn immune champs.
You have access to many armor break champs, nullify champs, stagger champs, neutralize champs and AAR champs, you just dont have them ranked up, most likely. Other people in the community face that challenge and decide to spend resources to rank them up.
There is no content in-game that hasn't required specific champs. Cav EQ does it every month. Lab/Abyss did it too. You think people use Aegon for war or questing? Probably yes, but the vast majority ranked up Aegon specifically for the piece of content.
If you cant dedicate resources to a specific game mode, you can just not play that game mode, no one is forcing you to.
BGs is supposed to challenge rosters, its supposed to challenge people to do unusual rankups.
We learned this in season 1.
Ok I wasn’t 100% sure how it worked, thanks. I still think it might be a little bit overboard but this helps a lot.
@FiiNCH you know the player base is large and everyone wants to compete in BG but doing stuff like making seasons champ or class specific is a bad idea when players are busting they butt to get resources to rank champs that can actually be used in most of the other content? Do you think everyone has a huge selection of champs? I’m actually in a different position because I have the champs and materials but how about my alliance mates who don’t and others who don’t, they don’t count and shouldn’t be upset?
@FiiNCH you know the player base is large and everyone wants to compete in BG but doing stuff like making seasons champ or class specific is a bad idea when players are busting they butt to get resources to rank champs that can actually be used in most of the other content? Do you think everyone has a huge selection of champs? I’m actually in a different position because I have the champs and materials but how about my alliance mates who don’t and others who don’t, they don’t count and shouldn’t me upset?
Seems like he believes everyone should be able to just rank up every champ whenever they want. Honestly you shouldn’t have to have a select special deck to even be able to play the mode.
this node needs to be changed.. I mean not every one have the specific champs needed for these effects. Some will have more number of Armour up champs and against them we need that many power burn immune champs. I request KABAM to change it
@FiiNCH you know the player base is large and everyone wants to compete in BG but doing stuff like making seasons champ or class specific is a bad idea when players are busting they butt to get resources to rank champs that can actually be used in most of the other content? Do you think everyone has a huge selection of champs? I’m actually in a different position because I have the champs and materials but how about my alliance mates who don’t and others who don’t, they don’t count and shouldn’t me upset?
You do realise that the majority of the counters to these nodes are considered good/great champs..
Galan Hulkling Doom Tigra BWCV Hood Valkyrie Medusa Falcon AA Hulkbuster Titania Namor
Your argument is just lazy. People either haven’t prepared, or aren’t choosing the right counters.
@FiiNCH you know the player base is large and everyone wants to compete in BG but doing stuff like making seasons champ or class specific is a bad idea when players are busting they butt to get resources to rank champs that can actually be used in most of the other content? Do you think everyone has a huge selection of champs? I’m actually in a different position because I have the champs and materials but how about my alliance mates who don’t and others who don’t, they don’t count and shouldn’t me upset?
Seems like he believes everyone should be able to just rank up every champ whenever they want. Honestly you shouldn’t have to have a select special deck to even be able to play the mode.
Hardly.
Have you even played the last 3 seasons in Bg’s. Every meta has required a specific deck smh.
@Kbugii Exactly everyone in the player base should have an opportunity because no way will most people be able to rank Howard the duck over Human Torch because he’s good in BG when Torch will help them way more in all other aspects of the game. Resources for a lot of people take a long time to collect to have to rank a champ they are only gonna use in BG.
@FiiNCH That is false last season was not the same you needed counters for different fights like normal but all classes were involved this is totally different because they totally made some classes pretty much irrelevant like Science, Skill and Mutant.
Just given this a go - got to say I'm not a fan - it's too penalising. It could be said that if you don't have the counters there's not a lot of point playing, apart from Battleground objectives.
Fights are taking too long especially if the opponent thinks they can bank 15k points by pausing and making me wait 2 minutes. My ally isn't playing because they don't like the nodes. I'm hopping off the fence and going into camp "change the nodes" now.
We’ve had weeks to prepare for these nodes. If you haven’t ranked up champs to counter them then that’s on you.
Can't rank someone up if you don't have them in the first place though.
There’s not just one counter is there though, there are literally multiple champs who counter the nodes in this meta..
That's great. Still doesn't mean people have those counters.
Pointless argument - show me someone who doesn’t have any viable counters in their deck whatsoever.
Majority of people will have plenty of counters, who they just haven’t ranked up.
Sure they might. But not everyone has the resources to afford to rank up niche champs that they will only use for this specific meta and never/rarely use outside of BGs. You're basically suggesting to people with a bunch of lower level/less varied rosters to rank up 10-15 (potentially mediocre) champions for a timed event, and then in another thread, when the same people are complaining about the lack of iso/gold, you'll be the first one telling them to take one champ up at a time and only champions they NEED.
Victory track should not look to ostracize those that victory track is MADE for. The previous victory track Metas were NEVER this limiting. Rich get richer didn't kill you for not bringing buff heavy/nullify champs. It required skill to play against the nodes. The only skill this requires is getting 9 hits and pausing to timeout while hoping your opponent dies if you don't have a good counter.
@FiiNCH That is false last season was not the same you needed counters for different fights like normal but all classes were involved this is totally different because they totally made some classes pretty much irrelevant like Science, Skill and Mutant.
That’s funny then, why do I have science, skill and mutant attackers in my roster…strange. 🤦🏻♂️
Def a tough meta....and I'm so glad I didn't pre rank champs before it started. Everyone thought armor up champs would be the meta but it's equally or more important having fate seal/nullify
We’ve had weeks to prepare for these nodes. If you haven’t ranked up champs to counter them then that’s on you.
Can't rank someone up if you don't have them in the first place though.
There’s not just one counter is there though, there are literally multiple champs who counter the nodes in this meta..
That's great. Still doesn't mean people have those counters.
Pointless argument - show me someone who doesn’t have any viable counters in their deck whatsoever.
Majority of people will have plenty of counters, who they just haven’t ranked up.
Sure they might. But not everyone has the resources to afford to rank up niche champs that they will only use for this specific meta and never/rarely use outside of BGs. You're basically suggesting to people with a bunch of lower level/less varied rosters to rank up 10-15 (potentially mediocre) champions for a timed event, and then in another thread, when the same people are complaining about the lack of iso/gold, you'll be the first one telling them to take one champ up at a time and only champions they NEED.
Victory track should not look to ostracize those that victory track is MADE for. The previous victory track Metas were NEVER this limiting. Rich get richer didn't kill you for not bringing buff heavy/nullify champs. It required skill to play against the nodes. The only skill this requires is getting 9 hits and pausing to timeout while hoping your opponent dies if you don't have a good counter.
See my comment above where I ranked 13 top champs (off the top of my head - there are more) who are great for this meta…
@FiiNCH I said pretty much irrelevant yeah you have a few that will still work but you know exactly what everyone is talking about.
I love how you always have those people on this forum that 100 people can say the same thing and they say the opposite but they still believe they are right 😂
Well...if they don't fix this, I'll be stuck with a 1/2 deck of 5/65s (2 R4s and 23 R3s would be my best BG champs)...against R4s...it's out of the question to spend a lot of time and energy on this meta...
…and then I don't need units…and then I don't have to do arena... and then there's probably little left to do for someone who hasn't played AQ/AW for over 1 year.
We’ve had weeks to prepare for these nodes. If you haven’t ranked up champs to counter them then that’s on you.
Can't rank someone up if you don't have them in the first place though.
There’s not just one counter is there though, there are literally multiple champs who counter the nodes in this meta..
That's great. Still doesn't mean people have those counters.
Pointless argument - show me someone who doesn’t have any viable counters in their deck whatsoever.
Majority of people will have plenty of counters, who they just haven’t ranked up.
Sure they might. But not everyone has the resources to afford to rank up niche champs that they will only use for this specific meta and never/rarely use outside of BGs. You're basically suggesting to people with a bunch of lower level/less varied rosters to rank up 10-15 (potentially mediocre) champions for a timed event, and then in another thread, when the same people are complaining about the lack of iso/gold, you'll be the first one telling them to take one champ up at a time and only champions they NEED.
Victory track should not look to ostracize those that victory track is MADE for. The previous victory track Metas were NEVER this limiting. Rich get richer didn't kill you for not bringing buff heavy/nullify champs. It required skill to play against the nodes. The only skill this requires is getting 9 hits and pausing to timeout while hoping your opponent dies if you don't have a good counter.
See my comment above where I ranked 13 top champs (off the top of my head - there are more) who are great for this meta…
Give over. You're paragon. I'm paragon too and didn't even have to rank up new champions to compete well in this meta, but even I understand for many people (especially those that VT is aimed toward), this is severely limiting. Most Paragon and even some TB players will be out of the VT in 2 weeks' time. Because it isn't made for THEM.
So how about empathize with people VT IS made for? You know, the 90% of the game that AREN'T paragon and CAN'T afford to rank up 15 champions for a single month, seen as they need to balance story mode, variants, AQ, AW, EQ, Incursions, and even FUTURE BG metas.
there's like 3 good champions for this node and if u get a bad draft ur just done, no way around it, it has 0 skill to it just get lucky with ur champs or die from hitting
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Freaking kabam
Special Champion needed for BG this is totally freaking¡!!!!!!!!!!!!
Majority of people will have plenty of counters, who they just haven’t ranked up.
And take 2 min to match up too
Ok I wasn’t 100% sure how it worked, thanks. I still think it might be a little bit overboard but this helps a lot.
I request KABAM to change it
Galan
Hulkling
Doom
Tigra
BWCV
Hood
Valkyrie
Medusa
Falcon
AA
Hulkbuster
Titania
Namor
Your argument is just lazy. People either haven’t prepared, or aren’t choosing the right counters.
Have you even played the last 3 seasons in Bg’s. Every meta has required a specific deck smh.
Victory track should not look to ostracize those that victory track is MADE for. The previous victory track Metas were NEVER this limiting. Rich get richer didn't kill you for not bringing buff heavy/nullify champs. It required skill to play against the nodes. The only skill this requires is getting 9 hits and pausing to timeout while hoping your opponent dies if you don't have a good counter.
I love how you always have those people on this forum that 100 people can say the same thing and they say the opposite but they still believe they are right 😂
…and then I don't need units…and then I don't have to do arena... and then there's probably little left to do for someone who hasn't played AQ/AW for over 1 year.
Maybe it’s time for a solid break.
So how about empathize with people VT IS made for? You know, the 90% of the game that AREN'T paragon and CAN'T afford to rank up 15 champions for a single month, seen as they need to balance story mode, variants, AQ, AW, EQ, Incursions, and even FUTURE BG metas.