Getting Rid of the Armor Up Buff?
DrZola
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Advice please:
I’ve run into two instances where mystic attackers (Mephisto and Sigwitch) didn’t seem to get rid of the defenders’ Armor Up like I would have expected.
With Mephisto, Gorr gained Armor Up while Soul Imprisonment was still active. I’m not very familiar with Gorr, but does he have some ability accuracy that Mephisto’s abilities cannot affect?
Similarly, with Sigwitch against KM, Sigwitch supposedly has a 100% chance to nullify one buff with a well-timed block. Again, it didn’t work that way, making me wonder what I’m missing about KM. Multiple parries failed to remove any buff.
If this sounds like a noob post, then yes, I am surely a noob. I would greatly appreciate if someone could point out what I am missing about these interactions.
Dr. Zola
I’ve run into two instances where mystic attackers (Mephisto and Sigwitch) didn’t seem to get rid of the defenders’ Armor Up like I would have expected.
With Mephisto, Gorr gained Armor Up while Soul Imprisonment was still active. I’m not very familiar with Gorr, but does he have some ability accuracy that Mephisto’s abilities cannot affect?
Similarly, with Sigwitch against KM, Sigwitch supposedly has a 100% chance to nullify one buff with a well-timed block. Again, it didn’t work that way, making me wonder what I’m missing about KM. Multiple parries failed to remove any buff.
If this sounds like a noob post, then yes, I am surely a noob. I would greatly appreciate if someone could point out what I am missing about these interactions.
Dr. Zola
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Dr. Zola
I’m seeing people with issues with the effectiveness of neutralize so maybe it’s something else.
Dr. Zola
“At 10 all charges are removed and the defender gains an armor up buff.” I would’ve expected the interaction to be similar to tigra vs thing (neutralize up at 15 rock, no unstoppable and counter resets to 12). Instead, the chitin counter gets stuck on 10 until neutralize falls off. Once it falls off, defender gets an armor up buff.
@Kabam Jax can you get clarifications? I don’t think this is the correct interaction. Charges should reset at 10, regardless if the buff activates.
It was my first fight on this season, so there was no node preventing the debuff, besides me someone faced something alike?
I believe you just ran into the joys of RNG. I have a max sig terrax and sometimes he places 2 armor breaks sometimes 7. Btw not sure if you are aware but terrax is only power burn immune to metal champs which cap wilson is not unless you were talking about just normal falcon
Usually the minimum you get is one, but I can't replicate the scenario to make sure.
Have to say that if they keep those nodes active I might just skip BG this season.
In most fights 1 or 2 Armors will slip in at some point, specially against Non-Cosmics
I used Wiccan against a Korg....he can work but still not a completely safe option
My opponent had the same matchup & his Wiccan got absolutely destroyed by Korg, which indicates that he either didn't know how to use him or his effectiveness is too reliant on defender AI
1) Suicide R3 BWDO vs R3 Colossus. That person killed Colossus in 26 seconds.
2) R3 BWCV vs R3 Mephisto. Not crazy fast but killed Mephisto in 64 seconds
2. Claire is much more doable. I’ve done it in 80ish seconds
Note: there is a small chance this was due to AA reduction (but unlikely)
Yep. Though I think it’s because of the s2 fate seal and not stagger. With stagger, the buff procs, but then is immediately cancelled. Whereas fate seal and neutralize suppress the buff from triggering in the first place. I’m pretty sure they coded it to reset charges after the armor up triggers when it should really go the other way around. I’m willing to bet that if s99 or Titania or other buff immune champs were used as a defender, they’d stay at 10 charges (with no effect of course)
I've noticed it happening in AQ when the defender is a Mystic Ultron drone (who can't gain any 'beneficial effects') with a Hit Me,I dare you node.
Dr. Zola