Battlegrounds Season 4 Meta [MERGED THREADS]

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TheChosenOne1910

I don't think you suck, but I also don't think this Meta sucks. It's pretty simple, but you'll have to change your decks to deal with it. You can't just brute force it and expect to win. This Meta is not just affecting you but also your opponent. It's also not just there to negatively impact you; you need to lean into it with defenders that benefit from the node to trip up your opponents too.

Battlegrounds will have Metas that change every season, and they will require you to change your Decks up and invest in a more diverse roster. People with larger and more diverse rosters will have an easier time, as they should in a 1v1 PVP mode.

There are lots of people sharing counters and ideas around the forums. Take a look at some of those for ideas if you need them.

PS. The ones I see as most successful right now are the exact same Champions used in the 1st Meta of Battlegrounds ever with Bulwark and Explosive Personality. Lots of Armor Up champs on defence and lots of Nullifiers and Armor Breakers as attackers. Plus, this time, you can toss in Power Burn immune Champs too.

Some big brain has been thinking all month how to spoil the fun of the game, thank you.

TheNewCommander

I think there’s a reason why battlegrounds is open only for uncollected or above players. This is to ensure that the players have a roster good enough to at least fill in a competitive deck, as they proved their ability by defeating the collector.
Many players such as me knew this season’s meta is hard so that’s why we need to rank up different champs to handle these metas. If battlegrounds isn’t challenging, then why not just set to a ffa mode where no nodes, no restrictions? That will be truly incompetent. Just saying, uncollected players can have a chance to defeat cavs if they perform good fights and their opponents don’t. If there are no nodes, this will become purely a contest of account rating, and there will be no place for skills to use.
But I do also agree that this season’s meta is quite challenging for a lot of players in VT. It’ll be fun to set it as a GC week node, but there can be better nodes for VT since it’s for the whole month.
I still enjoy battlegrounds though.

Saru2244

I think the discussion here is too one-sided, I think you have to look at it more generally. I'm not happy with the mode either. On the one hand I don't have enough suitable champs, on the other hand I often have the problem when making a selection that the champs that would fit are not available for selection. If you then fight with the wrong champ, you have practically no chance. Even an increased skill only helps to a limited extent. That's a shame, because this game should always be about high skill.

On the other hand, I'm happy that Kabam is changing the modes. A big rooster, 5*, 6*, soon 7* - champs don't make sense if I can always do the tasks with the same 7-10 champs. How many times have I read in the past: "Best counter? Oh, I'll take Herc and do everything solo." Nice if you have Hercules.

That's why I think different modes are good, I think it's right to use the rooster and as many champs and types of champs as possible, and the fact that there can always be modes that just don't suit me is part of it. You just have to be able to deal with it and not immediately call the end of the game. Some have already said it aptly: if a season doesn't fit, I just play a different mode - so what?

Crisonix13

PS. The ones I see as most successful right now are the exact same Champions used in the 1st Meta of Battlegrounds ever with Bulwark and Explosive Personality. Lots of Armor Up champs on defence and lots of Nullifiers and Armor Breakers as attackers. Plus, this time, you can toss in Power Burn immune Champs too.
If I remember correctly, the Bulwark meta had an armor break immunity node… So it was not about the champs that the players had (armor break champs) but about the skilled playstyle (win without hitting opponent’s block)…

This time it’s different… It’s less about skill, but rather the roster… I personally don’t like this approach.
Yes and no. Champs that gained Armor Ups on their Own (being struck or otherwise) were the top Defenders for that Season, so you still had to play around it.

play around with what? Money? Like they said not everyone has a diverse roster, evade and power gain meta you can actually “play around it” using parry and dex with this how? Are you guys magically gonna add an armor break mastery? Your opinion as a moderator suck and this meta too.

content should be for everyone except for those that are actually title restricted.

IamGrO_ot

I don't think you suck, but I also don't think this Meta sucks. It's pretty simple, but you'll have to change your decks to deal with it. You can't just brute force it and expect to win. This Meta is not just affecting you but also your opponent. It's also not just there to negatively impact you; you need to lean into it with defenders that benefit from the node to trip up your opponents too.

Battlegrounds will have Metas that change every season, and they will require you to change your Decks up and invest in a more diverse roster. People with larger and more diverse rosters will have an easier time, as they should in a 1v1 PVP mode.

There are lots of people sharing counters and ideas around the forums. Take a look at some of those for ideas if you need them.

PS. The ones I see as most successful right now are the exact same Champions used in the 1st Meta of Battlegrounds ever with Bulwark and Explosive Personality. Lots of Armor Up champs on defence and lots of Nullifiers and Armor Breakers as attackers. Plus, this time, you can toss in Power Burn immune Champs too.

One needs precision to play around this, and having a deck with many counters to these nodes is challenging for those who are not whales.

It was hard enough to face 50/50 decks with R4/R3s when you have 2 R4s, but now I have to use 1/2 deck of 5/65s against R4s if I want to have usable counters. It goes without saying that it is an impossible task.

The only thing Kabam achieves with such restrictive nodes is that I practically drop the whole season. And I read that there are many who will do the same.

Ansh_A

A lot of people are focused on the change mode solution. The solution need not be that extreme. The two main issues are:
1. Chitin charges cannot be stopped and therefore armor ups are top easy and frequent for defenders.
2. Armor ups last too long.

Its the above two that is restricing thre roster and not the power burn (which is note a symptom than root cause).

Kabam should introduce:
1. Landing a heavy attack removed all chitin charges
2. Armor ups are reduced to 10 seconds.

Battlegrounds are a fast style so the same champs as now will be preferred but at least its not nigh impossible for a bad matchup

Sceptilemaniac2

Only lost 3 out of 15 matches so yeah, I love the nodes.

Update: I lost 3 matches in a row so now I hate the meta.

Chief_prime

Hard pass. First time I have zero fun with battlegrounds. It will be a long month waiting for another meta for me.

Mackey

It's pretty clear that we need progression brackets in this mode, I'm an experienced player and these nodes are just frustrating, somewhat niche too. How on earth are UC players getting by with meta. Create brackets for progression, tailor rewards accordingly. That eliminates any matchmaking issues too, no more UC vs Paragon players etc.

Seems like this should be an obvious decision, so likely one kabam won't implement or even consider

KingAz

If you can’t beat em, join em

Mcoc_Play3r

Its a shitshow!

Jefechuta

Idk why Kabam insists on not doing something when a vast majority of the players are not only frustrated about the new meta, they are proving that is a bad meta at least for Victory Track.

Kabam people, its okay to say "We are wrong, we will fix it"

People a lot of times complain about dumb things, but not this time, just be humble and admit that you didnt realize it was that restrictive, unfunny, awful, idk, call it whatever you want but it just needs to be patched asap.

And I say this having (sadly) a lot of niche champs that are nice for the meta but damn, not even funny meta to play on Victory Track

DaJiveTurkey

Worst node selection so far. I dont know how whoever thought this up could possibly think it's a good idea. You could see the backlash coming a mile away. There's obviously some idiots working at kabam. This season is going to be a miss for most people. In all the games I've played so far the attacker never wins and the score is below 20k because you just die so quick. Unless you have a lot of power burn immune champs you're screwed. Even consistent armor break and nullify can only do so much.

SammyDe

Wow, I didn’t know you can do that. So why not just pause from the start? You will have 100% health! Seemed wrong to do this as it is not within the spirit of the battleground (pauseground?)

Jefechuta

I think the problem is that its more worth to pause the game than play it, not the pause itself

AustinU823

I’m having a lot of fun with this meta but I also have the roster for it, thankfully. I do agree that it’s just way too much for early developing rosters to deal with, though. This should have been a Gladiator Circuit meta instead

Masaraksh1

now prestige search... made high prestige for alliance missions and other characters were weak. In the end, everyone gets caught with 4/55 when I have 4 of them ... Now, in order to play BG, it's better not to pump prestige characters.

IamGrO_ot

If there is a word stronger than hate, I do that…2 R4s 23 R3s…but I have to use 15 5/65s to have decent counters…this season was over before it started.

Ceti_Eel

This BG was purely designed so that lesser ranked up champs like HtD are now coveted it seems.. I have a pretty mediocre roster but I also don’t have the time to grind for resources or the disposable cash to buy resources and rank up champs that aren’t useful in other game modes. So it isn’t fun.

Mackey

For arguments sake .... 80% of players don't like these nodes and are not happy about them in the slightest, come on here to show their frustration and/or criticise them for kabam to see..... now that is all well and good but 60% of that 80% are still going along and playing BGs ..... nothing will change while people do this as kabams "data" will show that the mode is just as popular as normal, with maybe a slight dip.

If you're not happy with these nodes, don't play it. That's pretty much the only way something will change. #unitedfront 👌

Kasnow1

I have fun with this battleground meta. Human torche is bad and we have to think to be less bad than the opponent . Kabam can’t only make content for those who are don’t want to understand nodes and know the skills of the characters.

BuggyDClown

This time around i actually like this meta. Creating more proper strategy is key to win now. Tho my deck is average for this meta but i am enjoying far as i have to think out of box now. Imagine trapping your oppenent against Dragon man without nullifier.
I literally hoped that if i mess up , my opponent will mess up more due to defender placement 😂😂😂😂 not Everytime you can't kill defender in 20 sec. Sometimes you have to take L deliberately In one of the rounds and trap the opponent. If that damage is inevitable for you so with opponent,use it your advantage.

ajnaddo

To Be Fair,This Meta Is Bad.I Don't Mind Losing All Of My Matches,But To Lose To The Cowards Timing,Pausing Out Method Is Just Not Cool.This Meta Encourages That Type Of Playing Stile and I won't be apart of it.You Can Sugar Coat It As Much As You Want,But To Me Losing That Way is Not Cool.Does Not Matter How Big Your Roster Is,I Have Lost 4 out 5 Against Those Type Of Players,And Like I Said,Do You Think it's Fun And Fair.

DannyB01

I’m really enjoying it. I’ve ranked up champs for this and strategised in the off season and it seems to have paid off. I enjoy seeing my hard work and strategy meaning something.

Owl_0wl

yup, great node for strategy, brings the focus off just having the quickest killers (cgr, shang chi for example) and actually allows for players ability to shine rather than having a £10,000 roster just be OP.

Kasnow1

Thank you. I thought I was alone.

Rohit_316

Idk if anyone suggested this or not before ...but changing power burn to power drain would still be fine and keep the meta relevant .

DVL_HMSLF666

No I have to restart the combat in order to win

GreenRaptor413

This time around i actually like this meta. Creating more proper strategy is key to win now. Tho my deck is average for this meta but i am enjoying far as i have to think out of box now. Imagine trapping your oppenent against Dragon man without nullifier.
I literally hoped that if i mess up , my opponent will mess up more due to defender placement 😂😂😂😂 not Everytime you can't kill defender in 20 sec. Sometimes you have to take L deliberately In one of the rounds and trap the opponent. If that damage is inevitable for you so with opponent,use it your advantage.

I’m having fun with it too, my roster is fairly average with multiple r1 6*s but it’s enjoyable and it’s actually fairly easy to win because players just don’t know how to counter the nodes lmao

Nichj99

Yep I’m enjoying it also