Question about saving crystals.
CometEarth
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I want a clarification from a mod here about the crystals . Lets say i got an abyss nexus from the gifting event will the crystal have the new champions on it if i open it on February? The same question apply for all the crystals.
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So if you have a tech abyss nexus and want iron, you have to wait until January 31st for him to be added to the basic pool, then you can get him from the nexus you saved
I added this to another thread which is seemingly invisible. We need answers.
And define “in Basic Pool” nowadays (aka, Infamous Ironman reference in reply) ??
Some crystals are fixed (special focused “preview” champ crystals), but otherwise they tend to be based on what is in that crystal at time of opening no matter when you had purchased or earned it.
As to I.IM, if say an Abyss crystal (or purchasable Cav crystal, etc) with chances of 3*/4*/5*/6* in them, does a certain new champ go into a Cav crystal at the point they become available in a 4* (or a Premium 2/3/4) crystal.
But what if they are still in the Feature 15000 5* or 6* crystals at that time (which themselves have different expirations between the 5* and the 6*), as to when they roll-over into their corresponding Basic 5* or 6* crystal.
(EDIT, I forgot, 5* and 6* new ones eventually do go into their Basic 10000 even while still in their 15000 Feature without waiting full 90 day Feature run).
Are they in the Cav crystal only as a 3*/4* at the time they go into the 4* or PC pool, or as 5* and 6* as well right then ?
That is the answer that guy got.
I'm fairly certain I sat on a cosmic nexus crystal until Galan was in the basic pool, (I was successful in getting him) but after reading that support response, I'm unsure.
It sounds like with the various teams inside Kabam there is not always a lot of communication between them which I believe people with insight into Kabam, and even mods, have mentioned before and said is not a unique thing to Kabam in the games industry. I do think some mods tend to have better access to info than the support people, who over the years I have felt like know almost nothing and don't even read all the details of tickets submitted. There is a definite problem with support agents that does need addressed though.
I'm glad we're able to clear this up because, as I'm sure you've seen, this has spread a great deal within the community.
There has been no change to the way crystal hording/opening works. The support team made a mistake on this one. We have confirmed and reconfirmed within our Player Experience (support) team and made sure they are working with accurate information! Crystals will pull from the pool that is active at the time of opening.
I know these incidents are strange, but hopefully this clears things up!
1. Crystal drop tables never change.
2. The champions that can drop from a crystal can depend on when the crystal is opened.
Crystal contents never change. When a crystal is designed to drop a random champion from a specified list of champions, that specified list never changes. If you buy a featured 6* crystal, that crystal contains a drop table of the 24 champions that the featured listed at the time you buy it. No matter when you open it, it will always drop a random champion from that list of 24 champs. When the featured pool changes, a new crystal is created and issued. All the old crystals continue to drop from their own original 24 champions.
However, sometimes a crystal doesn't list champions directly. Instead it is designed to drop a champ "from the basic 6* pool" for example. When a crystal is designed that way, its drop tables also never change. But since the basic pool itself changes over time, what champs are possible depend on when you open the crystal. The crystal always says "drop from the basic table" but the table keeps getting new champs added. So while the crystal never changes, the tables it pulls from do change.
If you know the rule that crystals never change, you might incorrectly believe that all possibilities are frozen when the crystal is acquired. However, that's not true for crystals that point to drop tables that themselves change. The crystal doesn't update itself, and its drop contents don't change. It is just that when one of your possible drops is "basic 6* table" the possible options can change even if the crystal doesn't.
Long ago, players used to ask if they bought a featured 5* crystal and the featured crystal changed, would their hoarded crystals change to drop from the new featured table. The answer is no, because crystals don't change. Once you buy them, that's it. They are essentially frozen. Somewhere in support's knowledgebase I would not be surprised if a note like that exists. However, that is misleading when crystals point to basic pools. The basic pools update, and the crystal points to the basic pool, so the crystal's contents implicitly change all the while the crystal itself never changes.
Is the drop table in this case just the identifier of basic 6* pool and it doesn't change to be basic 5* pool or something but the contents of the specific table (6* basic in the example) do change?