Single vs Batch summon pulls

CrazyRU2_CrazyRU2_ Member Posts: 31 ★
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Hello all,
This discussion isn’t about increasing weekly rewards by holding. The question can generate answers based off of speculation and opinions.

Question:
1) Do the RNG Gods favor pulling multiple summons at once to achieve better tier champs
Or
2) Doesn't make a difference because random is random. Pulling single vs batch doesn’t improve odds of top tier champs.

If you feel strongly for a choice, why do you feel that way?

Comments

  • SuhshehshsSuhshehshs Member Posts: 72 ★
    It's random both ways, but people feel like they have better odds single or batch based on the pulls they have had from it. If a person pulls 6 star human torch and 6 star scorpion from two basic single pulls and gets 6 stars of og cap, wwII, and black widow from a batch then they'd feel like they have better luck from the single pulls.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,557 ★★★★★
    I don’t believe that one is better than the other, I just believe that the pain is easier to bear when you do it all at once as opposed to nickel and diming yourself.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,638 ★★★★★
    CrazyRU2_ said:

    Hello all,
    This discussion isn’t about increasing weekly rewards by holding. The question can generate answers based off of speculation and opinions.

    Question:
    1) Do the RNG Gods favor pulling multiple summons at once to achieve better tier champs
    Or
    2) Doesn't make a difference because random is random. Pulling single vs batch doesn’t improve odds of top tier champs.

    If you feel strongly for a choice, why do you feel that way?

    The RNG is the same either way. The odds increase because you increase the chances at what you want, so it's really a matter of preference. Drop Rates are the same per Crystal, but it's more advantageous because you're trying more times. Personally, I don't hoard. I just don't have the patience. Lol.
  • CrazyRU2_CrazyRU2_ Member Posts: 31 ★
    Furrymoosen said:

    ……easier to bear when you do it all at once as opposed to nickel and diming yourself.

    Yeah, you’re right. Might be easier to bear….until you pull 5 bottom champs in one go. Might make someone want to rage quit for waiting 😂
  • CrazyRU2_CrazyRU2_ Member Posts: 31 ★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Personally, I don't hoard. I just don't have the patience. Lol.


    Patience is a virtue 😉
  • CyborgNinja135CyborgNinja135 Member Posts: 1,120 ★★★★
    CrazyRU2_ said:

    Hello all,
    This discussion isn’t about increasing weekly rewards by holding. The question can generate answers based off of speculation and opinions.

    Question:
    1) Do the RNG Gods favor pulling multiple summons at once to achieve better tier champs
    Or
    2) Doesn't make a difference because random is random. Pulling single vs batch doesn’t improve odds of top tier champs.

    If you feel strongly for a choice, why do you feel that way?

    The outcome of a crystal being opened is completely unaffected by the outcomes of other crystals. For example, if you're looking for Spot in the current featured 6*, every crystals has a 1/24 chance of landing on Spot. Opening a batch of 20 crystals at once, has the exact same probability of granting you Spot as opening those 20 crystals over a period of one month.

    So opening in batches doesn't give you better odds over opening individually and vice versa.
  • CrazyRU2_CrazyRU2_ Member Posts: 31 ★
    So to be clear, the common opinion thus far is randomness is just that - random. Because the RNG is following strict rules of probability.

    This would also mean: luck, superstition, and karma have zero effect on the law of probability. Seems logical.

    So follow up question: When you pulled that coveted and high desired champ (ex, Herc, Doom, etc), did you pull it as part of multiple pulls or all by itself? I suspect it is a mixed result. Unless you believe in luck
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    CyborgNinja135 said:

    CrazyRU2_ said:

    Hello all,
    This discussion isn’t about increasing weekly rewards by holding. The question can generate answers based off of speculation and opinions.

    Question:
    1) Do the RNG Gods favor pulling multiple summons at once to achieve better tier champs
    Or
    2) Doesn't make a difference because random is random. Pulling single vs batch doesn’t improve odds of top tier champs.

    If you feel strongly for a choice, why do you feel that way?

    The outcome of a crystal being opened is completely unaffected by the outcomes of other crystals. For example, if you're looking for Spot in the current featured 6*, every crystals has a 1/24 chance of landing on Spot. Opening a batch of 20 crystals at once, has the exact same probability of granting you Spot as opening those 20 crystals over a period of one month.

    So opening in batches doesn't give you better odds over opening individually and vice versa.
    While each crystal has the same odds, the probability of getting spot for your account increases
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    CrazyRU2_ said:

    So to be clear, the common opinion thus far is randomness is just that - random. Because the RNG is following strict rules of probability.

    This would also mean: luck, superstition, and karma have zero effect on the law of probability. Seems logical.

    So follow up question: When you pulled that coveted and high desired champ (ex, Herc, Doom, etc), did you pull it as part of multiple pulls or all by itself? I suspect it is a mixed result. Unless you believe in luck

    For me i opened 1 crsytal and pulled apoc, pulled two to get galam and Gorr, 1 for valk
  • CyborgNinja135CyborgNinja135 Member Posts: 1,120 ★★★★
    AverageDesi said:

    CyborgNinja135 said:

    CrazyRU2_ said:

    Hello all,
    This discussion isn’t about increasing weekly rewards by holding. The question can generate answers based off of speculation and opinions.

    Question:
    1) Do the RNG Gods favor pulling multiple summons at once to achieve better tier champs
    Or
    2) Doesn't make a difference because random is random. Pulling single vs batch doesn’t improve odds of top tier champs.

    If you feel strongly for a choice, why do you feel that way?

    The outcome of a crystal being opened is completely unaffected by the outcomes of other crystals. For example, if you're looking for Spot in the current featured 6*, every crystals has a 1/24 chance of landing on Spot. Opening a batch of 20 crystals at once, has the exact same probability of granting you Spot as opening those 20 crystals over a period of one month.

    So opening in batches doesn't give you better odds over opening individually and vice versa.
    While each crystal has the same odds, the probability of getting spot for your account increases
    Did you read the last sentence of the first paragraph? Opening 20 featureds at once has the same probability of giving you Spot as opening them over a longer period of time. The number of trials is still the same.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    CyborgNinja135 said:

    AverageDesi said:

    CyborgNinja135 said:

    CrazyRU2_ said:

    Hello all,
    This discussion isn’t about increasing weekly rewards by holding. The question can generate answers based off of speculation and opinions.

    Question:
    1) Do the RNG Gods favor pulling multiple summons at once to achieve better tier champs
    Or
    2) Doesn't make a difference because random is random. Pulling single vs batch doesn’t improve odds of top tier champs.

    If you feel strongly for a choice, why do you feel that way?

    The outcome of a crystal being opened is completely unaffected by the outcomes of other crystals. For example, if you're looking for Spot in the current featured 6*, every crystals has a 1/24 chance of landing on Spot. Opening a batch of 20 crystals at once, has the exact same probability of granting you Spot as opening those 20 crystals over a period of one month.

    So opening in batches doesn't give you better odds over opening individually and vice versa.
    While each crystal has the same odds, the probability of getting spot for your account increases
    Did you read the last sentence of the first paragraph? Opening 20 featureds at once has the same probability of giving you Spot as opening them over a longer period of time. The number of trials is still the same.
    Ah yes. Nevermind. I have the dumb
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,844 Guardian
    CrazyRU2_ said:

    Do the RNG Gods favor pulling multiple summons at once to achieve better tier champs

    Whatever you think the RNG Gods are going to do, they will do something different. However, sometimes the different thing they do is to not do something different than you think.
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