Arena Express Mode

Fit_Fun9329

Hi all,

It seems that Kabam Zero enters the stage again:

What do you think/wish about/for this new feature?

Was hoping for an arena revamp for years now!!

Comments

Daddrieda

Could I have the link to read it, please?

Squammo

I hope it’s something rather simple like not having to go back to the team selection screen and the game just automatically choosing team after team down the list and we just have to tap on “next match”.

Only way to know for sure is to wait until tomorrow.

Furrymoosen

Since it is a Sigil perk, let’s consider a couple of the other Sigil perks. The Sigil gives you a 20% XP boost and reduces energy regen by 16.7%. Based on those and Zero saying it is supposed to make arena faster, I would guess with some confidence that it is a general point boost, perhaps around the 20% mark, allowing players to progress through milestones more quickly. Affecting champ cooldown, which could be a part of it, doesn’t necessarily make arenas faster. We will know for sure tomorrow, but I feel pretty good guessing that it’s a point boost.

Fit_Fun9329

Man I really hope that it’s not sigil exclusive…

Furrymoosen

Man I really hope that it’s not sigil exclusive…

It is already known to be a Sigil perk.

Fit_Fun9329

Sooo .. it was only cut off rewards buff? Huh?

Furrymoosen

Sooo .. it was only cut off rewards buff? Huh?

Zero’s post said it would be in the release notes. Didn’t say anything about info coming in the stream.

Fit_Fun9329

Sooo .. it was only cut off rewards buff? Huh?
Zero’s post said it would be in the release notes. Didn’t say anything about info coming in the stream.

True but when this is a cool new hot feature, it would be best to promote it on stream. Arena can use some love 😅

Furrymoosen

Sooo .. it was only cut off rewards buff? Huh?
Zero’s post said it would be in the release notes. Didn’t say anything about info coming in the stream.
True but when this is a cool new hot feature, it would be best to promote it on stream. Arena can use some love 😅

But since it’s likely a paid feature they may not feel like dealing with the chat’s response live.

Furrymoosen

Not a lot of detail in this version of the info.

Fit_Fun9329

Nooooo

JounaaPee

You have to spent 10$ to skip some animations while playing arena. Why not allow this to everyone

Fit_Fun9329

You have to spent 10$ to skip some animations while playing arena. Why not allow this to everyone

Indeed! Especially because arena was super neglected in the past ☹️

Eb0ny-O-M4w

You have to spent 10$ to skip some animations while playing arena. Why not allow this to everyone

Funny that people who spend in general are usually the one's who dont need to play arena that much. This is a feature targeted for F2P players but behind a paywall

Odachi

This is appalling;
"pay us money to make your game go faster"

There is no other interpretation to this.

XSquad

I wanna know about Known Issues part with Adam Warlock lol

Fit_Fun9329

It’s honestly disappointing

Chobbly

Streamlining Arena will be useful I guess, but being honest I was hoping for something a bit more.

Like, if you win the first two fights and you have the Express option turned on you have the option to skip the last fight - it's treated as a win but you get sightly less points (80-85%?), less Battle Chips or something. A bit like an auto fight if you've already won, so to speak.

BenavideZZ

Arena express first reaction - woooooooooooooooooooooooo we might get additional damage boost or power gain boost.
Reallity- skip animations and screens for 10usd or what ever and save 2 to 5 seconds of time that will take you to click a button. And the only change to arenas- make crappy rewards a bit less ****. CONGRATS KABAM BEST NOT A CHANGE EVEEEEEEEER

Chuck_Finley

I was wondering if this was going to make it tempting to go back to sigil.

Nope. $10 saved.

ItsDamien

This is appalling;
"pay us money to make your game go faster"

There is no other interpretation to this.

Usually I side with Kabam on the whole monetisation side of things, but this comment alone sums up how I feel about this “Quality of Life” update. Paywalling something that REALLY should be available to everyone for free and calling it a “Quality of Life” update is so beyond out of touch. Do better Kabam.

NearJr

Let's not jump to conclusions right away. We need to see the final feature live in order to judge.

My specullation is this might be an attempt to slow down bots & farmers. Again, this is pure specullation on my end. And even if it is an action to give bots/farmers a "disadvantage", I dont think its the right way to go. My theory, it's not solid at all and based no nothing but my imagination, and it's a pretty dumb guess.

I mean, nice for those that buy the sigil but I do agree it's a kick in the groin for the rest. I still want to wait and see before we all bust out the pitchforks.

Ercarret

Hopefully Sigil users will simply be the beta users for this feature. It would be nice to see it rolled out to everyone eventually. Even as someone who usually pays for the Sigil, I'm not too fond of QoL changes being locked behind a paywall. There are other ways to make the Sigil worthwhile, and making Arena less grindy is something that I think everyone should be able to enjoy.

However, I can imagine that it is a feature that needs some limited in-the-wild testing before being rolled out fully, similarly to how only new players had access to the energy refill change a few months ago in order to see how it worked ahead of a community-wide implementation. If that's the case, then I'm more in favor of it. I remember suggesting that Sigil users be used as beta testers at the time, instead of new players. I think that's a cool perk for them without, in the end, holding QoL features back from the wider community.

Adevati

Locking QoL features behind a paywall.

That’s a new one right?

GinjabredMonsta

I’ll have to agree, QoL things should be for everyone. This isn’t really a QoL but a bonus “luxury “ I guess.

DNA3000

I’ll have to agree, QoL things should be for everyone. This isn’t really a QoL but a bonus “luxury “ I guess.

You mean like inventory increases?

There are two kinds of QoL improvements. There are those that affect the fundamental interface and interactions with the game, and those that affect the internal "friction" of gameplay itself. For example, tapping on an icon to see a description of a thing is a fundamental UI interaction. Inventory increases are reductions in friction. I think the former should, in general, be made available to everyone, but the latter should be fair game for monetization, because while we call them "QoL" they are really just the softest game-impacting monetization options available. If we exclude them from monetization, we force monetization "up" the game-impacting food chain.

The very first R5s in the game for the most part were earned via game play. That was a huge monetization opportunity lost, to counterbalance the desire for top tier stuff to be earnable in-game before it was completely diluted by whales. If we're not going to sell early access to the top tier stuff, and we're not going to sell QoL game play features, what's left? The problem with squeezing all of the monetization into the middle is that the middle is hazily defined, and mostly boring. That's a dangerous long term combination.

GinjabredMonsta

I’ll have to agree, QoL things should be for everyone. This isn’t really a QoL but a bonus “luxury “ I guess.
You mean like inventory increases?

There are two kinds of QoL improvements. There are those that affect the fundamental interface and interactions with the game, and those that affect the internal "friction" of gameplay itself. For example, tapping on an icon to see a description of a thing is a fundamental UI interaction. Inventory increases are reductions in friction. I think the former should, in general, be made available to everyone, but the latter should be fair game for monetization, because while we call them "QoL" they are really just the softest game-impacting monetization options available. If we exclude them from monetization, we force monetization "up" the game-impacting food chain.

The very first R5s in the game for the most part were earned via game play. That was a huge monetization opportunity lost, to counterbalance the desire for top tier stuff to be earnable in-game before it was completely diluted by whales. If we're not going to sell early access to the top tier stuff, and we're not going to sell QoL game play features, what's left? The problem with squeezing all of the monetization into the middle is that the middle is hazily defined, and mostly boring. That's a dangerous long term combination.

I’m not disagreeing with you and I agree with you. To me QoL is improvement in gameplay and helpful features. Like UI and item placements on the menu or gates in quests being moved to be easier to press things is QoL to me or like auto claim features and such are QoL. Increasing inventory space can be QoL, but I also can see it as a luxury upgrade as well. Same with energy refresh speed and or amount. These can be seen as luxury upgrades and I don’t mind them being monetized.

I feel this is more of a luxury item than a QoL item because it’s being monetized but also because the information that is out right now is very vague. I mean, there’s minimal screens in arena so it can be assumed what it means. Also, in my opinion, I haven’t really seen this been a complaint enough to be a QoL change. I do see how this can be a benefit to people who grind the arena though same as the energy timer is a benefit to people who like to do a lot of quests or storage for people who like to have a health stash of items. I’m kinda just ranting now and may have gotten away from my point, but don’t really see this as QoL irme just a luxury item

Adevati

I’ll have to agree, QoL things should be for everyone. This isn’t really a QoL but a bonus “luxury “ I guess.
. If we're not going to sell early access to the top tier stuff, and we're not going to sell QoL game play features, what's left?

For starters, the same thing most other games do; cosmetic items.

Why Kabam isn’t selling alternate skins for champions (especially with BGs now) is lost on me.

Another thing many games do to generate revenue without disrupting balance, is to offer permanent attribute increase items. These are very minor increases; typically like 1% more damage or something. They don’t affect the balance that much but players have the desire to “max” out at any cost. F2P can get them after 6 months to a year of grinding whereas spenders get them much quicker.

Another source of revenue is the premium pass system which is clearly here to stay.

There are a lot of ways to generate revenue.

ahmynuts

I’ll have to agree, QoL things should be for everyone. This isn’t really a QoL but a bonus “luxury “ I guess.
You mean like inventory increases?

There are two kinds of QoL improvements. There are those that affect the fundamental interface and interactions with the game, and those that affect the internal "friction" of gameplay itself. For example, tapping on an icon to see a description of a thing is a fundamental UI interaction. Inventory increases are reductions in friction. I think the former should, in general, be made available to everyone, but the latter should be fair game for monetization, because while we call them "QoL" they are really just the softest game-impacting monetization options available. If we exclude them from monetization, we force monetization "up" the game-impacting food chain.

The very first R5s in the game for the most part were earned via game play. That was a huge monetization opportunity lost, to counterbalance the desire for top tier stuff to be earnable in-game before it was completely diluted by whales. If we're not going to sell early access to the top tier stuff, and we're not going to sell QoL game play features, what's left? The problem with squeezing all of the monetization into the middle is that the middle is hazily defined, and mostly boring. That's a dangerous long term combination.
I’m not disagreeing with you and I agree with you. To me QoL is improvement in gameplay and helpful features. Like UI and item placements on the menu or gates in quests being moved to be easier to press things is QoL to me or like auto claim features and such are QoL. Increasing inventory space can be QoL, but I also can see it as a luxury upgrade as well. Same with energy refresh speed and or amount. These can be seen as luxury upgrades and I don’t mind them being monetized.

I feel this is more of a luxury item than a QoL item because it’s being monetized but also because the information that is out right now is very vague. I mean, there’s minimal screens in arena so it can be assumed what it means. Also, in my opinion, I haven’t really seen this been a complaint enough to be a QoL change. I do see how this can be a benefit to people who grind the arena though same as the energy timer is a benefit to people who like to do a lot of quests or storage for people who like to have a health stash of items. I’m kinda just ranting now and may have gotten away from my point, but don’t really see this as QoL irme just a luxury item

Youre correct. Arena express is a QoL improvement being sold as a luxury item not the other way around such as what DNA mentioned. QoL should be for everyone and they could have added something different to the sigil to make money.

MoeyTehr

Absolutely absurd to call something behind a paywall a "quality of life" upgrade.