Anyone else feel Prowess Power is a little much?

Pizzaslayer11Pizzaslayer11 Member Posts: 25 ★
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I generally run the hazard shift path in War and golly gee I’m struggling. When the opponent bans the only viable options for certain fights the game just feels unwinnable. Like their is this Sauron on Node 22 I just can’t clear because I can’t power drain and remove his prowess in time while waiting out the phase I’m not immune to. Then I just take a special 3 to the face. Definitely feel like the tactic forces Armor Burn and I feel like past defensive tactics were easier to play around without the countering Offensive tactic. Idk though what are y’all’s thoughts so far?

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  • Pizzaslayer11Pizzaslayer11 Member Posts: 25 ★
    There*
  • Gogeta91199Gogeta91199 Member Posts: 990 ★★★★
    It feels like flow 2.0 but without the benefit of parrying and stopping the power gain.
  • MackeyMackey Member Posts: 1,597 ★★★★★
    Sure is, if the AI wasn't so bloody passive then maybe it wouldn't be as bad but it isn't so yeah I agree, they could have at least gave a workaround other than non crit champs/prowess stripping champs .... both of which have hardly any champs in 🤦‍♂️
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,383 ★★★★★
    Pizzaslayer11 said:

    I generally run the hazard shift path in War and golly gee I’m struggling. When the opponent bans the only viable options for certain fights the game just feels unwinnable. Like their is this Sauron on Node 22 I just can’t clear because I can’t power drain and remove his prowess in time while waiting out the phase I’m not immune to. Then I just take a special 3 to the face. Definitely feel like the tactic forces Armor Burn and I feel like past defensive tactics were easier to play around without the countering Offensive tactic. Idk though what are y’all’s thoughts so far?

    Who was banned and which armor burn champ did you carry to fight that sauron? I do path 9 myself.
  • Pizzaslayer11Pizzaslayer11 Member Posts: 25 ★
    Bugmat78 said:

    Pizzaslayer11 said:

    I generally run the hazard shift path in War and golly gee I’m struggling. When the opponent bans the only viable options for certain fights the game just feels unwinnable. Like their is this Sauron on Node 22 I just can’t clear because I can’t power drain and remove his prowess in time while waiting out the phase I’m not immune to. Then I just take a special 3 to the face. Definitely feel like the tactic forces Armor Burn and I feel like past defensive tactics were easier to play around without the countering Offensive tactic. Idk though what are y’all’s thoughts so far?

    Who was banned and which armor burn champ did you carry to fight that sauron? I do path 9 myself.
    Idoom and Nimord were both banned so I used OS on Magneto with shock and bleed and then Sunspot on Sauron
  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,598 ★★★★★
    Maybe it's just my alliance, but we hardly notice the tactic at all. The power gain is so small.
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,383 ★★★★★
    Pizzaslayer11 said:

    Bugmat78 said:

    Pizzaslayer11 said:

    I generally run the hazard shift path in War and golly gee I’m struggling. When the opponent bans the only viable options for certain fights the game just feels unwinnable. Like their is this Sauron on Node 22 I just can’t clear because I can’t power drain and remove his prowess in time while waiting out the phase I’m not immune to. Then I just take a special 3 to the face. Definitely feel like the tactic forces Armor Burn and I feel like past defensive tactics were easier to play around without the countering Offensive tactic. Idk though what are y’all’s thoughts so far?

    Who was banned and which armor burn champ did you carry to fight that sauron? I do path 9 myself.
    Idoom and Nimord were both banned so I used OS on Magneto with shock and bleed and then Sunspot on Sauron
    Ok - could use OS vs Sauron also in the same way vs magneto - hit during the phase she doesnt suffer from the debuff. Magneto himself is an armor burn champ and is good for section 2 shock+bleed.
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,256 ★★★★★
    Yodabolt21 said:

    Maybe it's just my alliance, but we hardly notice the tactic at all. The power gain is so small.

    THIS. it's not even a fraction of a bit bothersome .. they tuned it down way way way too much.
  • Sliderz00Sliderz00 Member Posts: 22 ★
    The tactic is wayyyy too easy and barely noticeable.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,999 Guardian
    edited May 2023
    i disagree. It has its fair share of tough matchups.
    ( i disagree with the posters above)
  • GomezlinkGomezlink Member Posts: 231 ★
    edited May 2023
    There is a big mistake by Kabam, both Magneto and Sunspot do not benefit from the attack tactic, despite being listed in it, the tactic only works with those who have armor, champions like Venom, Ultron, Heimdall, only benefit after have the armor, but Magneto, Rouge, Sunspot, never benefited
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,999 Guardian
    Gomezlink said:

    There is a big mistake by Kabam, both Magneto and Sunspot do not benefit from the attack tactic, despite being listed in it, the tactic only works with those who have armor, champions like Venom, Ultron, Heimdall, only benefit after winning the armor, but Magneto, Rouge, Sunspot, never benefited

    got to knock the opponent down to get an armor
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,388 ★★★★★
    Colossus is a straight G on path 9 in this meta. 🤞 you have him.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 922 ★★★★
    I never get why players want more pain, especially in a system where loyalty is rare and healing is so expensive.
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 950 ★★★
    Gomezlink said:

    There is a big mistake by Kabam, both Magneto and Sunspot do not benefit from the attack tactic, despite being listed in it, the tactic only works with those who have armor, champions like Venom, Ultron, Heimdall, only benefit after have the armor, but Magneto, Rouge, Sunspot, never benefited

    Next time, read
  • ShiroMikazukiShiroMikazuki Member Posts: 515 ★★★
    Warmachine sp1 removes prowess charges for each suppression applied if that helps dealing with prowess


  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,203 ★★★★★
    LightsAnime said:

    Warmachine sp1 removes prowess charges for each suppression applied if that helps dealing with prowess


    Do it on hazard shift.
    I dare you!
  • ShiroMikazukiShiroMikazuki Member Posts: 515 ★★★
    edited May 2023
    SirGamesBond said:

    LightsAnime said:

    Warmachine sp1 removes prowess charges for each suppression applied if that helps dealing with prowess


    Do it on hazard shift.
    I dare you!
    If that doesnt work use vulture then, he’s immune to incinerate and gains shock immunity through synergy
    Vulture can also power control by intercepting
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,203 ★★★★★
    I rather quake it.
    LightsAnime said:

    SirGamesBond said:

    LightsAnime said:

    Warmachine sp1 removes prowess charges for each suppression applied if that helps dealing with prowess


    Do it on hazard shift.
    I dare you!
    If that doesnt work use vulture then, he’s immune to incinerate and gains shock immunity through synergy
    Vulture can also power control by intercepting
    The point is, don't bring up WM in the hazard thread. OP asked about hazard. I don't have any issues in any fight.
  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,598 ★★★★★
    startropics said:

    I never get why players want more pain, especially in a system where loyalty is rare and healing is so expensive.

    It’s not so much that. Kabam wants more kills on defense to make war more challenging and more balanced. They introduced a tactic that was never tested and was WAY overturned. Now they have gone the exact opposite and have nerfed that tactic to the ground. Tiers 1 and 2 are FORCED to go against it and it’s basically non existent. Are their tough matchups, sure, but there was with Void and Knull with unsteady. Those matchups required very specific counters or you were toast. This tactic you can literally use anyone that doesn’t crit every hit and you’re fine.

    More pain is not what we are asking for. AW should be a challenging mode that require strategy and skill. This tactic requires neither.

    In addition, a lot of people ranked up defenders for this tactic specifically and it was basically wasted.
  • GomezlinkGomezlink Member Posts: 231 ★
    edited May 2023
    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Gomezlink said:

    There is a big mistake by Kabam, both Magneto and Sunspot do not benefit from the attack tactic, despite being listed in it, the tactic only works with those who have armor, champions like Venom, Ultron, Heimdall, only benefit after have the armor, but Magneto, Rouge, Sunspot, never benefited

    Next time, read
    Stupid, in case you didn't notice, not everyone is from the US, the game didn't translate correctly for me in Brazil, be more polite in your reply...(translated from Portuguese)
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,999 Guardian
    Yodabolt21 said:

    startropics said:

    I never get why players want more pain, especially in a system where loyalty is rare and healing is so expensive.

    It’s not so much that. Kabam wants more kills on defense to make war more challenging and more balanced. They introduced a tactic that was never tested and was WAY overturned. Now they have gone the exact opposite and have nerfed that tactic to the ground. Tiers 1 and 2 are FORCED to go against it and it’s basically non existent. Are their tough matchups, sure, but there was with Void and Knull with unsteady. Those matchups required very specific counters or you were toast. This tactic you can literally use anyone that doesn’t crit every hit and you’re fine.

    More pain is not what we are asking for. AW should be a challenging mode that require strategy and skill. This tactic requires neither.

    In addition, a lot of people ranked up defenders for this tactic specifically and it was basically wasted.
    I disagree it is a nothing tactic. I play in Tier1 and have seen some tough matchups. It isnt sunshine and roses.
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