Who is the best mystic defender in your opinion ?

Mystics are annoying , mainly due to the large healthpool and mix of sorcerer in their kit .

Who do you all think is the best defender in mystic class ?

Comments

Rohit_316

How the hell don't you have Hood?!

You find Hood hard to fight ?

I_tell_no_tales_1

He still slaps

I dont think Rintrah is hard, he s just a bad matchup in BG because of the time, he s so tanky!

Ima go with Spidey since he s quite new and i still havent figured him out too well yet

Abs man also isnt hard if u have the right counter

Doom u gotta play perfect, cause 1 mistake and u re probably dead, tanky and op

I do hate to fight Maw and Mangog tough, very annoying defenders that require specific gameplay

Just don't medium him and you will be fine

Ercarret

No one's saying Mojo? While some buff immune champs have made him much easier to defeat, I still really struggle whenever I bring anyone who isn't immune to buffs. I absolutely hate that degen.

I would also say Dormammu, for similar reasons. I hate fighting him.

Marouen

Rintrah very easy to defeat if you understand the mechanic

phillgreen

I normally parry/heavy sasquatch and rintrah but maw, that guy bothers me.

Stupid mystic spidey annoys me too if I dont have torch.

Salve_maker05

Put him on a shock node and he will only throw heavy attacks and b-slap you out of existence

SSJ

Fun and interactive damage if you don’t have a buff immune champion

Shake_a_Quake

Can't choose just one. Doom is really annoying to fight, and his unblockable sp2 doesn't help, I'm still learning to Dex that.

Mojo is another pain in the cheeks, if i don't specifically bring spider-ham.

And then there's Rintrah, who still consumes too much time and energy (prolly coz i still don't know how to fight him right.)

For me personally, abs man is not annoying due to a simple heal block and heavy. And sasquatch can get unpredictable with the AI sometimes. I think he is bugged, bcoz i find him saving specials and throwing them mid-combo (in my case too often)

KnightOfTheRealm

Can't choose just one. Doom is really annoying to fight, and his unblockable sp2 doesn't help, I'm still learning to Dex that.

Mojo is another pain in the cheeks, if i don't specifically bring spider-ham.

And then there's Rintrah, who still consumes too much time and energy (prolly coz i still don't know how to fight him right.)

For me personally, abs man is not annoying due to a simple heal block and heavy. And sasquatch can get unpredictable with the AI sometimes. I think he is bugged, bcoz i find him saving specials and throwing them mid-combo (in my case too often)

For doom, his sp2 isn't unblockable unless he manages to steal two bars of power from you using the sp1, because aura shouldn't be active when he fills two bars of power unless you're running a buff heavy champ and mystic dispersion gives him that much.

For rintrah, knock him down consistently so he doesn't go unstoppable, he goes unstoppable at 10+ charges, each knockdown removes five.

Rohit_316

Can't choose just one. Doom is really annoying to fight, and his unblockable sp2 doesn't help, I'm still learning to Dex that.

Mojo is another pain in the cheeks, if i don't specifically bring spider-ham.

And then there's Rintrah, who still consumes too much time and energy (prolly coz i still don't know how to fight him right.)

For me personally, abs man is not annoying due to a simple heal block and heavy. And sasquatch can get unpredictable with the AI sometimes. I think he is bugged, bcoz i find him saving specials and throwing them mid-combo (in my case too often)
For doom, his sp2 isn't unblockable unless he manages to steal two bars of power from you using the sp1, because aura shouldn't be active when he fills two bars of power unless you're running a buff heavy champ and mystic dispersion gives him that much.

For rintrah, knock him down consistently so he doesn't go unstoppable, he goes unstoppable at 10+ charges, each knockdown removes five.

I have noticed that if Rintrah's back is not against the wall , he doesn't go unstoppable even on 10 charges . As soon as he goes towards the wall , he goes unstoppable on 10 charges if you use a medium attack.

Shake_a_Quake

@KnightOfTheRealm tysm, I'll definitely keep all of this mind when i next counter these champs

Caleb1705

Chavez shouldn't be so tough but I feel so helpless when she throws 2 heavies into the air and then hides in the corner for a sp3

Eb0ny-O-M4w

It's a me

noclutch

Maw,
Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.

KnightOfTheRealm

Maw,
Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.

Ham is better for maw as he has 150% degen resistance , and you don’t need a miss counter. Just watch falter timer

captain_rogers

Maw,
Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.

I use ibom, surprisingly he works for me everytime, torch and archangel are good counters too

captain_rogers

Maw,
Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.

Omega sentinel is a underrated counter to maw.. she is nullify immune,and tracking debuff prevent miss,so you can easily shut him down,and kill him easily

noclutch

Maw,
Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.
Ham is better for maw as he has 150% degen resistance , and you don’t need a miss counter. Just watch falter timer

Yeah Ham is very good but its a work around not a proper counter.

noclutch

@captain_rogers
You are right,
That makes her a perfect counter.

Can somebody point out more such characters?
(Characters who can counter his degen and miss)

I completely overlooked Omega sentinel

Rohit_316

@captain_rogers
You are right,
That makes her a perfect counter.

Can somebody point out more such characters?
(Characters who can counter his degen and miss)

I completely overlooked Omega sentinel

Titania , Cassie are excellent counters to him . Both are buff immune.

Wu_Bangerz23

Everytime I don’t ban maw, the opponent will pick him and I’ll get wrecked, especially with nodes where you need to knock down. He’s one of my core bans. I just find him so annoying with his unparriable mediums and having to watch the falter timer.

Most people won't do it or try because of class disadvantage but have u ever tried Angela? Destroys him.... especially if u struggle with knocking him down. She can parry his non contact attacks

Kerneas

I personally hate Doom. His block penetration is borderline unfair. I understand you all will disagree, and that is fine, everyone can have their opinion.

I just feel it's slightly unfair when I lose 40-60% hp just from parries. But again, just my opinion

noclutch

I personally hate Doom. His block penetration is borderline unfair. I understand you all will disagree, and that is fine, everyone can have their opinion.

I just feel it's slightly unfair when I lose 40-60% hp just from parries. But again, just my opinion

He does insane amount of dmg through block. and probably most annoyinig in general.
But He doesnt restrict your playstyle or characters the way Rintrah or maw does.

JT_Supreme

Everytime I don’t ban maw, the opponent will pick him and I’ll get wrecked, especially with nodes where you need to knock down. He’s one of my core bans. I just find him so annoying with his unparriable mediums and having to watch the falter timer.
Most people won't do it or try because of class disadvantage but have u ever tried Angela? Destroys him.... especially if u struggle with knocking him down. She can parry his non contact attacks

I didn’t know that, I haven’t ever used her. But that seems super helpful if she can parry. Most of the time I play a guy with max limber so I have to get the heavy off fast, but his second hit ends up being non contact where I then fail the heavy and take a combo to the face lol.

EdisonLaw

He’s not here but Kindred

A_Fungi

I think the issue I run into BGs is when people have most of these champs in their decks because they all require similar counters. I don't have torch in my deck, makes it easy for me to ban theirs without sacrificing my options.

I basically have scorpion, sp99 and AA to deal with the mystics. Thats hoping for a lot if they get 3 of these painful choices. (especially wong, dorm, maw together since sp99 is by far best at all of these)

A_Fungi

I enjoy all the Maw hate. I got super lucky and duped my 7 star... he is almost R2.