Battle against cheaters update - June 6th, 2023

It has been a while since the last anti-cheat update. The reason for this is we have been working on some new tools to tackle one of the areas of the game that players have regularly asked us to pay more attention to - Arena!

Arena

Earlier today we banned over 300 players for Arena modding and/or botting in the Moondragon and Adam Warlock arenas. Because cheaters have a meaningful advantage in the mode, many of these players placed near the top of the leaderboards. In addition to the ban, the following actions are being implemented:

Those who were not permanently banned can expect something missing from their accounts when they return. The associated 6* champion(s) (Moondragon and/or Adam Warlock) will be removed from their accounts regardless of rank or sig level. No compensation will be made for lost materials.

Many players who placed outside the top 400 will be promoted to the top 400 and receive their earned 6* copy of the champion(s). Because of the number of cheaters at the top, this will be a significant number of players.

If you were one of the cheaters/modders that was not permanently banned, consider yourself lucky. Further infractions will result in a permanent ban.

Battlegrounds

Our Battleground anti-cheat measures continue to be improved. We learned a lot from the last few days of Season 7, where cheaters really increased their pace of play starting the weekend before the season ended. Beginning with this season, our autoban will be running more frequently, to hopefully lessen the impact these cheaters have. We will also be dedicating more staff time to manual review of our dashboards in the closing days of the season.

Edit: We're seeing a number of reports that bans have been reverted. Some of these bans (not all) were always intended to be 7-Day bans. In some cases, the system erroneously escalated to perma-bans. We have made the correction to these bans.

Comments

HungaryHippo

The more I think about it the more maddening it is. They can't go 2 seconds without turning a game mode or gifting event into a complete joke and who wouldn't want an arena bot??? You get to have every champ in the game and unlimited units without lifting a finger. Give me that! I want that! No more busted thumbs and hand pain.

If you've botted every arena for 2 years, a 7 day ban isn't enough. Take all their stolen champs away, give them negative units, and REMOVE ARENA access for 6 months.
While I agree, it would kill the game. This move is already a very risky move on Kabam's part. Most of the people cheering it on don't even spend anything on the game.
I agree, they'd be foolish booting their spenders but we're almost stuck in a hostage situation. "Best let them cheat every resource in the game or else the game shuts down". What?!
Then support the game with what little you have so they aren’t reliant on the whales. Like I said before, Kabam doesn’t even put on ads for F2P for 7+ years. People have too little appreciation for what they get and what a big risk Kabam just took.

If you don’t want to be held hostage, you have to do some of the work.
This reads like a mob protection racket. "that's a nice game ya got there, it'd be a shame if something were to happen to it".

Life has always been that way.

On a different note, it would be nice if alliance officers could see a note indicating previous bans? They may not want to add such players.

@Kabam Miike @Kabam Jax

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Poopnug

there's a lot of talk about banning cheaters and all that but if the cheaters are consistently winning over and over would it not make sense to just make arenas separated? 1000 summoners fight in this group and another 1000 in this group over here. Put all the cheaters that are known cheaters into one group and let them cheat themselves

Searmenis

This Prof Hoff video is based on fake info, right? @Kabam Jax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8pAX3v4w0

Kabam Jax

This Prof Hoff video is based on fake info, right? @Kabam Jax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8pAX3v4w0

It suuuuure was!

Searmenis

This Prof Hoff video is based on fake info, right? @Kabam Jax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8pAX3v4w0

It suuuuure was!

And pretty easy to tell :P

pseudosane

This Prof Hoff video is based on fake info, right? @Kabam Jax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8pAX3v4w0

it is prof hoff after all. Its his area of expertise.

Frnkielo

@Kabam Miike @kabam Jax have the rewards been corrected yet?

marbor0327

Your anti-cheater program doesn't work. I played with one of them again. Don't allow such practices, we have to spend many hours to get rewards and they take all the fun out of the game. I propose that the penalties for using unauthorized software be more severe. all Battlegraund rewards should be taken and banned for at least 7 days. In addition, such a cheater will definitely also use in AW. it's no longer about compensation, it's about playing fair and getting banned or severely punished. another cheater in the screenshot.

LordSmasher

Anyone had the list of banned players?

Nah, but you could check out the top alliances in rating and looking at the players who haven't logged in for 3 days.
I got to Alliance rated #6 to find one that didn't have banned players. Most amusing.

ReyAlemán

Modders are evolving, they are modifying the damage of their hits at the time they are sent to the server so that the astronomical hits they deal DO NOT APPEAR in the fight stats.

I guess they do this to avoid getting caught by your anti-cheat methods and increase their chances of not getting banned.

100k power rating accounts on celestial right now making impossible fights in less than 20 seconds and "normal" hits.

Ugur01

Had 144m points for adam warlock first round and get a 5* adam… i hope i will be in top 400 after correction…

İ wonder when will i get my 6* champ correction?
And another point, will i loose my 5* adam warlock?

SummonerNR

Had 144m points for adam warlock first round and get a 5* adam… i hope i will be in top 400 after correction…

İ wonder when will i get my 6* champ correction?
And another point, will i loose my 5* adam warlock?

Interesting question.
Especially if someone has since already ranked up, or applied items to, their 5* rewarded arena champ.

If they bump you up to getting the 6*, I wouldn’t be opposed to letting them keep the 5* also.
(and if so, I hope they won’t complain that they would have used their ISO/Cats instead on that 6* and start asking for refund of what they used on the 5*)

DonAngelus

Look at this, his Redhulk 6r3 vs me Domino 6r4. after all, it is an unthinkable result of such time and force of impact. he is still a loser because even by cheating he does not win. please do something about cheats. people stop playing battlegraund because of other players cheating.

Domino is not difficult to play against. As someone that's played her and got her in the first week of release, I'm well versed with her mechanics. I presume you're relying on her Sp1 winning the defensive fights as many have hoped for, but in my case I just chuckle when I see Domino as defender because I'm well used to dodging her Sp1.

Ugur01

is it really so hard work to delete banned players from the top 400 list, and sending the rewards to who really deserved it in 6 days?

LordSmasher

is it really so hard work to delete banned players from the top 400 list, and sending the rewards to who really deserved it in 6 days?

Is it really so hard to wait for something you weren't going to get?

Ugur01

is it really so hard work to delete banned players from the top 400 list, and sending the rewards to who really deserved it in 6 days?
Is it really so hard to wait for something you weren't going to get?

No, its not about waiting, i really wanna know why it takes 6 days long..

And also, its not a thing i wasnt going to get, its a thing i spend so much time and effort but loose it because of cheaters

LordSmasher

is it really so hard work to delete banned players from the top 400 list, and sending the rewards to who really deserved it in 6 days?
Is it really so hard to wait for something you weren't going to get?
No, its not about waiting, i really wanna know why it takes 6 days long..

And also, its not a thing i wasnt going to get, its a thing i spend so much time and effort but loose it because of cheaters

Because complex software products with big databases are hard, especially when you have competing priorities.

Linkneko1377

is it really so hard work to delete banned players from the top 400 list, and sending the rewards to who really deserved it in 6 days?
Is it really so hard to wait for something you weren't going to get?
No, its not about waiting, i really wanna know why it takes 6 days long..

And also, its not a thing i wasnt going to get, its a thing i spend so much time and effort but loose it because of cheaters

They have already given the compensation and if they did not give it to you, I think it will not reach you.U.U

marbor0327

Look at this, his Redhulk 6r3 vs me Domino 6r4. after all, it is an unthinkable result of such time and force of impact. he is still a loser because even by cheating he does not win. please do something about cheats. people stop playing battlegraund because of other players cheating.

Domino is not difficult to play against. As someone that's played her and got her in the first week of release, I'm well versed with her mechanics. I presume you're relying on her Sp1 winning the defensive fights as many have hoped for, but in my case I just chuckle when I see Domino as defender because I'm well used to dodging her Sp1.

It's not that Domino's is easy. only match stats. look at the results of RH 6r3 vs Domino 6r4. obvious fraud

TyDollarSign

I know you've put a lot of effort into this subject but just look at this lol

Oh you didn’t know that Carnage has been better than Hercules this whole time? Mega god mode character lol. That sucks though!

WingsOfChaos_1

I know you've put a lot of effort into this subject but just look at this lol

Oh you didn’t know that Carnage has been better than Hercules this whole time? Mega god mode character lol. That sucks though!

🥲

Ugur01

Just recieved 6* adam, and still got the 5*

Thanks kabam

Crimson8399

On the topic of cheaters, how come nothing ever comes of when these bugs go on for months/years. Isn’t that cheating the community that keeps you all employed?

BigBlueOx

Cheaters allowed to play BGs in the season they got caught… doesn’t make sense

ShiroMikazuki

I know this isnt related to the thread, but when are the forum admins going to crack down on the people who keeps spamming disagree on everyones comments? Its basically every post i make, theres always a guarantee disagree on my post or comment

Edit: i didnt want to make a thread so i chose to do it here (i did look for the thread jaxx made about “what would you like to see in a future stream” but didnt pop up in search)

Keonex

Cheaters allowed to play BGs in the season they got caught… doesn’t make sense

Its completely not fair to allow them to play or collect rewards in hame modes that they used champs they obtained through cheating. That includes AW and BG

they should be removed completely from these game modes, I also believe it just isn’t fair that they only removed the champs from the arena that was monitored when they were caught, what about ALL the other champs they obtained by cheating previously.

Allowing them to stay competitively in the contest is endorsing cheating

nOux

Ah yes Kabam, your 7 day ban system clearly works!
Bot ban was lifted only 2 days ago and now in arena leaderboards same bots are back on the top. Excellent work! Give them 7 days again, this time surely they will learn from their mistakes….

horrendous_too

Ah yes Kabam, your 7 day ban system clearly works!
Bot ban was lifted only 2 days ago and now in arena leaderboards same bots are back on the top. Excellent work! Give them 7 days again, this time surely they will learn from their mistakes….

I mean I would hope that such people would be under a microscope for managing to get in the top 100 in less than 2 days.

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