Cheaters still Win

It seems hardly unfair that all of the players who were modding in arena can use all of those units in other places as well and still get to reap the rewards. For example, all of the individuals who were not permanently banned (though they all should have been), still have their spots in the Gladiator Circuit. TCN and Ny718 will surely still place number 1 & 2 in the Battlegrounds Alliance Event. Despite the fact the units they used to achieve this were acquired by deliberately breaking the terms of service.

Should they not at least at the bare minimum be stripped of the points and ranking they falsely and unfairly have this season?

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Mxfjosa_BG_Stomper

Harshly unfair*

noclutch

It seems hardly unfair that all of the players who were modding in arena can use all of those units in other places as well and still get to reap the rewards. For example, all of the individuals who were not permanently banned (though they all should have been), still have their spots in the Gladiator Circuit. TCN and Ny718 will surely still place number 1 & 2 in the Battlegrounds Alliance Event. Despite the fact the units they used to achieve this were acquired by deliberately breaking the terms of service.

Should they not at least at the bare minimum be stripped of the points and ranking they falsely and unfairly have this season?

I would appreciate if they did.
I dont expect them to do it.

ScottCHarbach1

BGBAR is best! Justice for BGBAR!!!

willrun4adonut

But I thought the saying was cheaters never prosper, not cheaters still win.

Gogi

Why don't you try yourself and see if your statement is true? Will you get back with rewards or not.

GinjabredMonsta

@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra

Kabam, you’re literally showing us, if there is anything we’d like to do in game (boost our score up in the GC, complete EOP, Abyss Etc.) whatever it may be, all we have to do is mod. Sure we won’t be able to play the game for 7 days, but, when we come back, we’ll get to come back to all those goodies we cheated for.

Where are they showing this exactly?

HungaryHippo

Of course. They win every game mode because they have been cheating for years. Even a 2 year old could come to this conclusion.

I get to GC with 6r2 in my deck every season but when you run into some of these accounts (as I do in Diamond and above), you really get to see how vast the gap is. This applies to arena where they can use those massive rosters to grind out new champs (even without cheating), having tougher war defenders/attackers, having tons of units to trivialize game content, getting all the milestones in the 7* event, etc.

Clownius Clown had an excellent take on the issue:

https://youtu.be/gHYYKY2-AZc

Chris_Summers

But I thought the saying was cheaters never prosper, not cheaters still win.

Unfortunately in this instance it’s a disagree… 🥺
Cheaters are winning and prospering 😏

laserjohn26

The arena cheaters should be stripped of all units. Put in unit jail, and least $1000 worth of crates to get out of the red, which is extremely generous as some of them have easily stolen $100,000 worth of units over the years. All feature champs obtained in the arena since the format changed a few years ago should be removed. That doesn't even address them cheating in war and battle grounds. It's a joke that a week ban and removing 2 champs is even a small deterent. They will all be back putting up 350 million for Dani tomorrow.

SummonerNR

Recent 7-day bans like that caused an upper alliance in AW to drop some rank positions this past week because of lack of players, has ended it's 7-day timeframe.

although they do finish in a lower place now (don’t know if what caused the bans are maybe also AW related and a Points hit will also be coming or not).

Sort of wish the bans could have lasted thru the timeframe of AW rewards (or even upcoming BG rewards) being distributed and then expiring from Mail+Stash.

Or maybe a game ban should automatically cancel any current participation status (like 5 war minimum status), current Event points contribution, and upcoming rewards.
So they would actually take a “hit” for 1 season's worth of stuff.

ChiliDog

Of course. They win every game mode because they have been cheating for years. Even a 2 year old could come to this conclusion.

I get to GC with 6r2 in my deck every season but when you run into some of these accounts (as I do in Diamond and above), you really get to see how vast the gap is. This applies to arena where they can use those massive rosters to grind out new champs (even without cheating), having tougher war defenders/attackers, having tons of units to trivialize game content, getting all the milestones in the 7* event, etc.

Clownius Clown had an excellent take on the issue:

https://youtu.be/gHYYKY2-AZc

Wow, wonder if Kabam took a look at the accounts they picked up. Hopefully Kabam takes action and don't let themselves look like they got outsmarted.

Keonex

it’s definitely unfair, a 7 day ban isn’t enough

like OP said, everything they gained through cheating is being used to help them in other areas of content

just doing a temp ban plus removing the champion from the arena that was investigated isn’t enough

what about ALL the previous champs they achieved through cheating, maybe Kabam if not doing a permanent ban should instead remove ALL major champions they ever got through arena and they should remained banned until such a thorough investigation can be completed.

if not they will just profit from cheating and thus kabam is just endorsing cheating in game

b3atu

some definitely got a little surprise when logging on again..

BigBlueOx

I don’t see how anybody caught in the arena modding ban is being allowed to earn AW or BG season 8 rewards.

LordSmasher

It wasn't really to punbish those accounts, it was more like "Hey, we know what you've been doing. Anybody who looks at your PVP wins and win streaks plus your leaderboard positions also know what you've doing. We'd like you to stop now".

JT_Supreme

Having 7 day bans gives some leeway to cheaters. Should be insta ban no questions asked.

HungaryHippo

some definitely got a little surprise when logging on again..

This cannot be real…

TanukiTales

I don’t see how anybody caught in the arena modding ban is being allowed to earn AW or BG season 8 rewards.

I think people are pointing out that their alliances didn't get punished. So those alliances are still benefiting from the cheating.

Zuko_ILC

Recent 7-day bans like that caused an upper alliance in AW to drop some rank positions this past week because of lack of players, has ended it's 7-day timeframe.

although they do finish in a lower place now (don’t know if what caused the bans are maybe also AW related and a Points hit will also be coming or not).

Sort of wish the bans could have lasted thru the timeframe of AW rewards (or even upcoming BG rewards) being distributed and then expiring from Mail+Stash.

Or maybe a game ban should automatically cancel any current participation status (like 5 war minimum status), current Event points contribution, and upcoming rewards.
So they would actually take a “hit” for 1 season's worth of stuff.

This is what needs to happen. They should lose a season of rewards not just 1 game mode. Losing 1 arena champ that they put no actual effort in and gained a bunch of units isn't a punishment. I've seen many of them bragging that they get a vacation now and come back to top rewards still. How is that fair?

BigBlueOx

I don’t see how anybody caught in the arena modding ban is being allowed to earn AW or BG season 8 rewards.
I think people are pointing out that their alliances didn't get punished. So those alliances are still benefiting from the cheating.

So do they, arena modding allows for units for deals, catalyst store, boosts, potions, etc. It impacts all game modes because it gave unlimited access to the base currency of MCOC.

Add in access too newer champs that can also be used in BGs. The alliances and the cheaters all deserve to be docked substantially for AW season 42, and BG season 8.

It’s disgusting to me that some of these cheaters are in the top 10.

Coppin

As far as they said.. if they are caught cheating, they remove the points from BG milestones...

HungaryHippo

I don’t see how anybody caught in the arena modding ban is being allowed to earn AW or BG season 8 rewards.
I think people are pointing out that their alliances didn't get punished. So those alliances are still benefiting from the cheating.
So do they, arena modding allows for units for deals, catalyst store, boosts, potions, etc. It impacts all game modes because it gave unlimited access to the base currency of MCOC.

Add in access too newer champs that can also be used in BGs. The alliances and the cheaters all deserve to be docked substantially for AW season 42, and BG season 8.

It’s disgusting to me that some of these cheaters are in the top 10.

And yet, some here would have you believe that these cheaters don’t do enough for Kabam to get a slap on the wrist.

Keonex

all them that were caught cheating are cruising in BGs gladiator circuit using champ they cheated to obtain.

how is this fair play?

temp ban but allow them to come back, you just gave them a small vacation from game now they get to play using champs they got by exploiting the game

HungaryHippo

all them that were caught cheating are cruising in BGs gladiator circuit using champ they cheated to obtain.

how is this fair play?

temp ban but allow them to come back, you just gave them a small vacation from game now they get to play using champs they got by exploiting the game

The cheaters keep disagreeing with common sense.

GinjabredMonsta

Y’all do realize those welcome back gifts are for taking an extended break from the game, not from 7 day bans….

Huenas

Now that kabam has all their mod/bot Accts back in game, are folks still enjoying BGs, arena and all other modes?

Are folks amped up to spend real €€ $$ to complete against kabams bot/mod accounts?

TitoBandito187

It's just for show. Top payers will remain top players.

See it for that it really is.

Keonex

it is just heartbreaking to see that Kabams moto is good guys finish last.

letting cheaters back into the game just means that who they support being on top of the game.