7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it it was different then.many current big accounts are second hand5+ years ago it was customary to:-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQif kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today.
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.
The community has always been split on this. Everyone here treats emulator users, modders, hackers, botters and mercs like trash when they come and complain that their accounts were banned. We tell them that they got what they deserve and then if that person says they'll never do it again, we tell them too bad, so sad and to go away. But KT1 gets a pass because not only is he a YouTuber, he par takes in the greatest bonding event there is, complaining about EVERYTHING, Kabam does. There isn't a single thing that will make most community members like someone better than bashing Kabam for every decision that was ever made, including bashing Miike and Jax about their shorts on a live stream. It doesn't matter what KT1 did because he's a "champion for the people" even though he hasn't done a single thing for the game itself. But then there's someone like DNA3000 who actively helps the community but gets a fraction of the praise. It's a weird dynamic.
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it it was different then.many current big accounts are second hand5+ years ago it was customary to:-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQif kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today. You should clarify that it was customary within the community, not with Kabam. They still banned people back then as well but back then, it was harder to catch them. Kabam has NEVER approved of any of that behavior. But still allowed it to happenSilence is the sign of approval/agreement
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it it was different then.many current big accounts are second hand5+ years ago it was customary to:-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQif kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today. You should clarify that it was customary within the community, not with Kabam. They still banned people back then as well but back then, it was harder to catch them. Kabam has NEVER approved of any of that behavior.
The community has always been split on this. Everyone here treats emulator users, modders, hackers, botters and mercs like trash when they come and complain that their accounts were banned. We tell them that they got what they deserve and then if that person says they'll never do it again, we tell them too bad, so sad and to go away. But KT1 gets a pass because not only is he a YouTuber, he par takes in the greatest bonding event there is, complaining about EVERYTHING, Kabam does. There isn't a single thing that will make most community members like someone better than bashing Kabam for every decision that was ever made, including bashing Miike and Jax about their shorts on a live stream. It doesn't matter what KT1 did because he's a "champion for the people" even though he hasn't done a single thing for the game itself. But then there's someone like DNA3000 who actively helps the community but gets a fraction of the praise. It's a weird dynamic. Or because it happened 7 years ago and the rest of us have moved on. Merc’ing and inheriting an account that long ago is past the statute of limitations (IMO) if you’ve been clean since then.
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it it was different then.many current big accounts are second hand5+ years ago it was customary to:-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQif kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today. Old times had different standards?As far as I’m concerned TOS on piloting was the same back then.Nevertheless if Kabam goes the strict approach on cheating, they shouldn’t have double standards.If someone cheated by piloting in the past (and for most it was happening for a long time, not just once), they should receive the 7 day ban, just to signal the community that double standards don’t exist.Having passed 7 years isn’t an excuse.People got banned after 2 months, for getting carried for one hour in incursions.Yet some famous YTbers (we all know who they are), were mercing for months, if not for years, and they never got punished the slightest.Rules should apply to everyone, no exceptions.Or else Kabam should set and inform the community on the time line, a TOS violation is erased.Clear rules for all.
7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it Okay , I'll ask you directly , what do you want to happen ? You're inclining somewhere , say it openly buddy .
The community has always been split on this. Everyone here treats emulator users, modders, hackers, botters and mercs like trash when they come and complain that their accounts were banned. We tell them that they got what they deserve and then if that person says they'll never do it again, we tell them too bad, so sad and to go away. But KT1 gets a pass because not only is he a YouTuber, he par takes in the greatest bonding event there is, complaining about EVERYTHING, Kabam does. There isn't a single thing that will make most community members like someone better than bashing Kabam for every decision that was ever made, including bashing Miike and Jax about their shorts on a live stream. It doesn't matter what KT1 did because he's a "champion for the people" even though he hasn't done a single thing for the game itself. But then there's someone like DNA3000 who actively helps the community but gets a fraction of the praise. It's a weird dynamic. Or because it happened 7 years ago and the rest of us have moved on. Merc’ing and inheriting an account that long ago is past the statute of limitations (IMO) if you’ve been clean since then. No. You don't like anyone who does it now, you shouldn't like it from back then either.
@Scottryan still haven't replied to this after starting this whole facade7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it Okay , I'll ask you directly , what do you want to happen ? You're inclining somewhere , say it openly buddy .
@Scottryan still haven't replied to this after starting this whole facade7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it Okay , I'll ask you directly , what do you want to happen ? You're inclining somewhere , say it openly buddy . Either I want kabam to say there will be no ban (because after a certain amount of time TOS violations can be ignored or whatever) or I'd like to see a 7 day ban.
@Scottryan still haven't replied to this after starting this whole facade7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining. Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith. How exactly is this not in good faith?I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith. Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it Okay , I'll ask you directly , what do you want to happen ? You're inclining somewhere , say it openly buddy . Either I want kabam to say there will be no ban (because after a certain amount of time TOS violations can be ignored or whatever) or I'd like to see a 7 day ban. I think especially with the top 8 clean accounts getting flown out to Vancouver after next season of bgs, KT shouldn't be able to qualify for that after admiting to breaking TOS. I know people who won't be able to go because of getting banned for farming treasure island (an exploit that, despite being kabams fault, they banned players for using, something I've never seen any other game do) so I think a self admitted merc, no matter who it is, should have a ban on record so they can't qualify.If he really is sorry he should more than welcome a ban, should he not? Do the crime do the time is the saying no?
If we're being technical, let's say I Merc'd a bunch of accounts a few years ago at the peak of MCOC and made a lot of money, but my personal account hasn't been touched by anyone but me, can they really ban my account since it hasn't broken any rules?
You may not use anyone else’s Account at any time and you may not allow anyone else to use your Account at any time.
Further, you agree not to (this list is not exhaustive and may be updated from time to time):...Make offers, advertisements or proposals for goods, services, or other commercial activities outside of Kabam;
That's frankly better behaviour than our last few prime ministers, so personally I think we should let it go.