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are kitty and herc overpowered?

JahlilFTWJahlilFTW Posts: 12 ★
edited July 2023 in General Discussion
please vote

are kitty and herc overpowered? 188 votes

yes
30% 58 votes
no
69% 130 votes
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    KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Posts: 914 ★★★
    Kitty isn't remotely close to overpowered, and Hercules has a lot of counters and isn't very useful on defense, so he isn't.
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    Shake_a_QuakeShake_a_Quake Posts: 462 ★★★
    @Syndicated I know my omega sentinel is a very useful counter to Kitty. She only has the tactful advantage of phasing, ig? I don't see her being a problem at all, other than the phasing issue, on defense
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ★★★★
    Shake_a_Quake said:

    @Syndicated I know my omega sentinel is a very useful counter to Kitty. She only has the tactful advantage of phasing, ig? I don't see her being a problem at all, other than the phasing issue, on defense

    Why are you saying specifically defense though? Both of these champions are widely regarded as some of the best attackers in the game, I don't think anyone thinks of them as truly good defenders.
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    Shake_a_QuakeShake_a_Quake Posts: 462 ★★★
    @AngelMcNugget I did talk about them cheesing on offense too, but they can't be bought just everywhere, due to different variants and nodes (refer to my first comment). They could've been overpowered, if they had huge health pools along with their extraordinary attack. Or if they took less damage when being hit.


    To be overpowered, you need to be good on both defense and offense 🤷🏻
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    Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    edited July 2023
    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Kitty isn't remotely close to overpowered, and Hercules has a lot of counters and isn't very useful on defense, so he isn't.

    Kitty is pretty OP in some scenarios. Herc is actually pretty solid on defense. If my opponent has a nullify champ, he usually doesn’t do much, but he goes stun immune after being knocked down and he stalls a lot with his immortality and specials (in Battlegrounds mostly).
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ★★★★
    Shake_a_Quake said:

    @AngelMcNugget I did talk about them cheesing on offense too, but they can't be bought just everywhere, due to different variants and nodes (refer to my first comment). They could've been overpowered, if they had huge health pools along with their extraordinary attack. Or if they took less damage when being hit.


    To be overpowered, you need to be good on both defense and offense 🤷🏻

    So who would you consider to be overpowered? I personally consider them overpowered if they can clear more content than the majority of champions or clear important and difficult content with ease. See how Herc does in EoP? That's what overpowered is.
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    Shake_a_QuakeShake_a_Quake Posts: 462 ★★★
    edited July 2023
    @Magrailothos @AngelMcNugget yes, and take a punch to the face in EOP, while you're playing with Herc, does it reduce your health a lot, hell yes. You cant be great at a fight, or "overpowered" if you can deliver hits, but can't take hits. In that sense Quake is the only overpowered champ (evade, punish, concussion), you are free to disagree.


    I do agree that the word overpowered can be interpreted differently, as has been done by you against me, vice versa.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ★★★★
    Shake_a_Quake said:

    @Magrailothos @AngelMcNugget yes, and take a punch to the face in EOP, while you're playing with Herc, does it reduce your health a lot, hell yes. You cant be great at a fight, or "overpowered" if you can deliver hits, but can't take hits. In that sense Quake is the only overpowered champ (evade, punish, concussion), you are free to disagree.


    I do agree that the word overpowered can be interpreted differently, as has been done by you against me.

    Herc can take plenty of hits. When he dies, he doesn't die. Immortality kicks in, making him fully Unblockable and unable to die for as long as the buff lasts, which is paused during his special and basic attacks. Only (some) nullify, AA reducing and Marked champions can prevent Immortality.

    When Quake gets hit, she just dies. That's it.
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    Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    edited July 2023
    Crys23 said:

    Kitty's trash. Herc's ok, I guess.

    Kitty’s good for some stuff though. I see her take some skill champs in battlegrounds with ease and her phasing mechanic is great
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    Chris_SummersChris_Summers Posts: 252 ★★
    Kabam Miike said:

    Y'all. this ain't even a question. These two are OP af.


    I knew it! Mr. Miike is from Texas… or atleast has descendants from. 🤯

    Oh and btw Herc needs a buff.
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    Crys23Crys23 Posts: 779 ★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Crys23 said:

    Kitty's trash. Herc's ok, I guess.

    Kitty’s good for some stuff though. I see her take some skill champs in battlegrounds with ease and her phasing mechanic is great
    All explained in this video: https://youtu.be/_ZW-AZ2mNeA
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    SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Posts: 21,872 ★★★★★
    Chris_Summers said:

    Kabam Miike said:

    Y'all. this ain't even a question. These two are OP af.


    I knew it! Mr. Miike is from Texas… or atleast has descendants from. 🤯

    Oh and btw Herc needs a buff.
    don’t have to be from texas to say y’all…
    or am i from texas and didn’t know it?
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    TyphoonTyphoon Posts: 1,768 ★★★★★

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    KDoggg2017KDoggg2017 Posts: 1,218 ★★★★
    Ya'll can debate whether your porridge is too hot or too cold.
    My porridge is JUUUST right. 🙃
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    OpandemonioOpandemonio Posts: 1,291 ★★★★
    Push Kitty to the wall and let her spam sp2. Easy, just like Rhino
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    Sw0rdMasterSw0rdMaster Posts: 1,747 ★★★★
    Syndicated said:

    Shake_a_Quake said:

    They can't be overpowered if they have too many counters. Idk a lot about Kitty, but it's really easy to shut down a Herc on defense.
    While they can cheese fights, there are many variants and nodes, where other champs are more useful

    Kitty is really easy to kill with Nimrod, Infamous Iron Man, come on You can beat her with War machine

    Hercules is annoying thanks to his looong special attacks, nothing else

    In attack Kitty requires some skills to handle her propperly

    In the other hand, Hercules is really easy to use
    Fantman with antman synergy and now he can hit her while she's phasing.
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    DUHveedDUHveed Posts: 353 ★★★
    Kabam Miike said:

    Y'all. this ain't even a question. These two are OP af.

    Being from Kentucky seeing a friend from the north use “y’all” really tickles my fancy eh
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    startropicsstartropics Posts: 675 ★★★★
    no, they need a buff
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    Agent_7Agent_7 Posts: 182 ★★
    Definitely not. I can’t clear any content with either of them and they are both worthless defenders. I only keep them around for synergies.
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    ButtehrsButtehrs Posts: 5,036 ★★★★★
    Agent_7 said:

    Definitely not. I can’t clear any content with either of them and they are both worthless defenders. I only keep them around for synergies.

    Your obviously playing them wrong if you can't clear any content with either of them lol.
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