Of course you wouldn’t give rank downs for Zemo

Nichoas_1 · July 2023

Total garbage @Kabam Miike. Everyone loves zemo for that zemo lock and ranked him up for it. Your justification is it was on some “trello” board? What the heck is a trello board and where is it? Why not an IN GAME MESSAGE so EVERYONE SEES IT! You guys are LITERALLY, AND INTENTIONALLY Screwing over players who ranked Zemo. There’s no other way to put it. The number of people who ranked zemo for his mechanics vs Kraven PALES in comparison! Guys, you’re making a lot of mistakes and people angry right now. I think it’s only fair if you’re going to hurt a character loved this much for the very thing you are changing, then rank down tickets are only fair. No offense the trello board does not excuse you from compensation. I used a r5 gem personally from July 4th deals. Would you like to give me the money and resources back I just spent to do that or just the resources? There are plenty more of me wondering the exact same thing

ahmynuts · July 2023

I agree with you but why are you attacking @Kabam Miike

[Deleted User] · July 2023

Being aggressive about the situation likely isn't helping anyone. Miike has done nothing but assist and communicate all week. Until the thread is closed, just keep communicating why this is important over there. We clearly have reason for this, just gotta hope Miike listens and passes it on to the rest of the team next week.

Nichoas_1 · July 2023

@AngelMcNugget i agree aggression never gets anything positive, but they know this is a garbage move. The fact we have to call it out is RIDICULOUS to me.

Nichoas_1 · July 2023

@Kabam Miike i don’t wish you any I’ll will I just wish you and the team would rethink your comments and position on this cause it’s not right.

Nandhish · July 2023

What the hell is trello board I haven't heard of it till now . You guys just want to Nerf him. This is ridiculously . I only took him to rank5 because of his special root lock . Even in deep down video it is said that root mechanism is special lock . I need rank down ticket for zemo too and in future if there Is a bug post in the fourm discussion not in trello board. Because of your carelessness we the player are wasting our time,money, resources etc and this is a Nerf intended to make zemo week. We need rank down ticket for zemo heck I also need all of my sig stones that I invested on zemo which was nearly 199 combination of both generic and skill but I am not asking for that . I need rank down ticket for zemo tooo. This game is already failing because of bug now you are nerfing some strong player and favourite player etc if this continues many will leave the game . So please take responsibility give rank down ticket for zemo tooo @Kabam Miike

Maxwell24 · July 2023

Wait no way you guys thought the zemo lock was gonna actually stay? Lmao, it was an op ability and was very obviously gonna be nerfed I mean that's on you guys for not thinking tbh

ahmynuts · July 2023

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts because he’s the one who wrote that Kraven will get rdts but zemo won’t. What kind of horse **** is that?!

So you're shooting the messenger? It's not like he makes any of these decisions. He's just the one who relays the info to us. At least give him a break till Jax gets back. Man's had it rough this week

Nichoas_1 · July 2023

@ahmynuts give him a break? No, sir. If they quit making bad decisions, and ones that impact me personally as well as thousands of other dedicated players I’d gladly just go away. That’s not how it is sir. I started ranking zemo day 1 for the lock potential. It was only the introduction of relics that made it extremely op. You still need high enough combat power rate to keep it going based off health pool even with said relic. The decision to nerf him again AFTER the balance alone is reason enough for compensation. The fact that they are changing the exact CORE mechanic that made him popular is the other reason, and both are indisputable. To tell people they won’t issue compensation is simply so they can make this decision, attempt to live consequence free from community backlash, and be lazy about distributing a high number of resources that will ultimately shift the balance of the game again as people will no doubt use the catalysts for r2 7 star champs, and not just other 6 star rank ups. That last part is also their own fault for making such egregious mistakes, and late changes to those mistakes. Stop trying to cheat the player base.

ahmynuts · July 2023

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts give him a break? No, sir. If they quit making bad decisions, and ones that impact me personally as well as thousands of other dedicated players I’d gladly just go away. That’s not how it is sir. I started ranking zemo day 1 for the lock potential. It was only the introduction of relics that made it extremely op. You still need high enough combat power rate to keep it going based off health pool even with said relic. The decision to nerf him again AFTER the balance alone is reason enough for compensation. The fact that they are changing the exact CORE mechanic that made him popular is the other reason, and both are indisputable. To tell people they won’t issue compensation is simply so they can make this decision, attempt to live consequence free from community backlash, and be lazy about distributing a high number of resources that will ultimately shift the balance of the game again as people will no doubt use the catalysts for r2 7 star champs, and not just other 6 star rank ups. That last part is also their own fault for making such egregious mistakes, and late changes to those mistakes. Stop trying to cheat the player base.

I ain't reading all that so uh that's great!

Or I'm sorry that happened

Bigbowlr · July 2023

I think a Trello Board is a board used in offices to display current and future projects. In this case I'm assuming every champ currently being developed and the champs still in their 3 months since release period are on this Kabam trello board. Since it hasn't been 3 months since Zemo was available to the player base as a whole, he's still up for tweaks and adjustments. That's, I'm assuming, why he gets no tickets. Cause this has been a policy for a while. During the 3 months after General release they can tweak what needs tweaking.

Crimson8399 · July 2023

Bigbowlr said:
I think a Trello Board is a board used in offices to display current and future projects. In this case I'm assuming every champ currently being developed and the champs still in their 3 months since release period are on this Kabam trello board. Since it hasn't been 3 months since Zemo was available to the player base as a whole, he's still up for tweaks and adjustments. That's, I'm assuming, why he gets no tickets. Cause this has been a policy for a while. During the 3 months after General release they can tweak what needs tweaking.

This to my understanding is absolutely correct. That’s why it’s so important unless you’re a mega whale and don’t care, don’t spend on these champs and don’t waste resources til the window for changes is closed. The point of these 3 month time periods is to make necessary changes but it also give Kabam time to rake in the cash without giving any refunds on real cash or in game resources. They rely on the fact people can’t resist spending for what’s new and shiny so they wait til the cash flow stops coming in for new champs then begin to reevaluate the champs. We need to make sure the community understands the risk of spending for this reason.

ahmynuts · July 2023

Bigbowlr said:
I think a Trello Board is a board used in offices to display current and future projects. In this case I'm assuming every champ currently being developed and the champs still in their 3 months since release period are on this Kabam trello board. Since it hasn't been 3 months since Zemo was available to the player base as a whole, he's still up for tweaks and adjustments. That's, I'm assuming, why he gets no tickets. Cause this has been a policy for a while. During the 3 months after General release they can tweak what needs tweaking.

Everything outside of the first sentence is incorrect unfortunately

Mackey · July 2023

ahmynuts said:

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts because he’s the one who wrote that Kraven will get rdts but zemo won’t. What kind of horse **** is that?!
So you're shooting the messenger? It's not like he makes any of these decisions. He's just the one who relays the info to us. At least give him a break till Jax gets back. Man's had it rough this week

Shooting the messenger sends a message 👍

Unowins · July 2023

ahmynuts said:

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts give him a break? No, sir. If they quit making bad decisions, and ones that impact me personally as well as thousands of other dedicated players I’d gladly just go away. That’s not how it is sir. I started ranking zemo day 1 for the lock potential. It was only the introduction of relics that made it extremely op. You still need high enough combat power rate to keep it going based off health pool even with said relic. The decision to nerf him again AFTER the balance alone is reason enough for compensation. The fact that they are changing the exact CORE mechanic that made him popular is the other reason, and both are indisputable. To tell people they won’t issue compensation is simply so they can make this decision, attempt to live consequence free from community backlash, and be lazy about distributing a high number of resources that will ultimately shift the balance of the game again as people will no doubt use the catalysts for r2 7 star champs, and not just other 6 star rank ups. That last part is also their own fault for making such egregious mistakes, and late changes to those mistakes. Stop trying to cheat the player base.
I ain't reading all that so uh that's great! Or I'm sorry that happened

Imagine caring enough to comment but then turn around and act childish when you don’t want to hear the rebuttal.. LOL

Stay off the forums my guy.

Colinwhitworth69 · July 2023

Nichoas_1 said:
Total garbage @Kabam Miike. Everyone loves zemo for that zemo lock and ranked him up for it.

False premise. I’d venture to say that few players ranked him for that reason because they were not aware of his hidden ability. Also, I have mine at r4 and will rank r5 him soon because he is great as designed, which is how I use him.

So please speak for yourself, not “everyone”.

NegativePerson · July 2023

Colinwhitworth69 said:

Nichoas_1 said:
Total garbage @Kabam Miike. Everyone loves zemo for that zemo lock and ranked him up for it.
False premise. I’d venture to say that few players ranked him for that reason because they were not aware of his hidden ability. Also, I have mine at r4 and will rank r5 him soon because he is great as designed, which is how I use him.

So please speak for yourself, not “everyone”.

Plz, stop telling this bs. Mb a few players really ranked him up for your reason. Maybe you are not alone, yeah.
But root blocking is the basic zemo ability. And the most important in attack. So just stop.
It's like to take away armor breaks from CGR. Or stun after HA from Chavez.

Matterdecay · July 2023

no way people are actually this upset over it. i put my life into this game as im a shut in due to mental health and even i dont care about bugs/nerfs/fixes. I dont remember where it was but it was said many months ago that the special lock was not intentional. ALSO trello boards are used in tons of games for posting bugs, just cause you didnt know about the board doesnt mean it wasnt there for everyone to see. Does anyone who play this game play any other games too? its extrememly common for balance changes to happen. i dont get why this community pulls out pitchforks at the slight whiff of a champion change

Zilliaxer · July 2023

Nichoas_1 said:
Total garbage @Kabam Miike. Everyone loves zemo for that zemo lock and ranked him up for it. Your justification is it was on some “trello” board? What the heck is a trello board and where is it? Why not an IN GAME MESSAGE so EVERYONE SEES IT! You guys are LITERALLY, AND INTENTIONALLY Screwing over players who ranked Zemo. There’s no other way to put it. The number of people who ranked zemo for his mechanics vs Kraven PALES in comparison! Guys, you’re making a lot of mistakes and people angry right now. I think it’s only fair if you’re going to hurt a character loved this much for the very thing you are changing, then rank down tickets are only fair. No offense the trello board does not excuse you from compensation. I used a r5 gem personally from July 4th deals. Would you like to give me the money and resources back I just spent to do that or just the resources? There are plenty more of me wondering the exact same thing

Probably they are want money for these stones

Zilliaxer · July 2023

Nichoas_1 said:
Total garbage @Kabam Miike. Everyone loves zemo for that zemo lock and ranked him up for it. Your justification is it was on some “trello” board? What the heck is a trello board and where is it? Why not an IN GAME MESSAGE so EVERYONE SEES IT! You guys are LITERALLY, AND INTENTIONALLY Screwing over players who ranked Zemo. There’s no other way to put it. The number of people who ranked zemo for his mechanics vs Kraven PALES in comparison! Guys, you’re making a lot of mistakes and people angry right now. I think it’s only fair if you’re going to hurt a character loved this much for the very thing you are changing, then rank down tickets are only fair. No offense the trello board does not excuse you from compensation. I used a r5 gem personally from July 4th deals. Would you like to give me the money and resources back I just spent to do that or just the resources? There are plenty more of me wondering the exact same thing

Yeah,so now they can kill any character they want now

BloodyCruelty · July 2023

@Matterdecay
1. It happened right after the july deals
2. Many Players spent a lot of money for him
3. The majority of players didnt know about the trello board and it was never mentioned by kabam
4. The lock should pressure the opponent to spam basics/block/heavys. In practice there is no difference between that and a power lock. Now they are power locking sp1 and 2 for a 100% but not sp 3 and that sounds fair.
But you should get a Rank Down Ticket anyway

Icy000 · July 2023

zemo is still good for other things except "zemo lock", maybe try and play him

Chatterofforums · July 2023

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts because he’s the one who wrote that Kraven will get rdts but zemo won’t. What kind of horse **** is that?!

Getting mad and aggressive at Miike for communicating the message isn't the best approach on this, I mean do you really think Miike has anito do with that decision? That decision is likely made by a completely different department and likely someone in a higher position.

You getting mad at Miike is like someone getting mad at a reporter who is reporting the news on an action that a company is taking. Being mad at the decision and the messenger is not one in the same.

ahmynuts · July 2023

Chatterofforums said:

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts because he’s the one who wrote that Kraven will get rdts but zemo won’t. What kind of horse **** is that?!
Getting mad and aggressive at Miike for communicating the message isn't the best approach on this, I mean do you really think Miike has anito do with that decision? That decision is likely made by a completely different department and likely someone in a higher position.

You getting mad at Miike is like someone getting mad at a reporter who is reporting the news on an action that a company is taking. Being mad at the decision and the messenger is not one in the same.

Thank you, that's what I'm saying. Man is getting absolutely flamed just for relaying a direct message from the devs

Darkness275 · July 2023

Delete this please, posted it in the wrong area

Nichoas_1 · July 2023

@ahmynuts so the guy who delivers messages shouldn’t deliver my well thought out message for why his message was garbage. I should find his people and message them directly instead of him? How about I let him be in the role he’s in and relay my message back so he may take it where it’s needed? Your comments are literally to try to make me angry because no one is actually as absurd as this in reality. The message isn’t to destroy miike, and you know that. The message is that this is a garbage decision. I laid out why. Now captain messenger can relay my message. Simple.

Chatterofforums · July 2023

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts so the guy who delivers messages shouldn’t deliver my well thought out message for why his message was garbage. I should find his people and message them directly instead of him? How about I let him be in the role he’s in and relay my message back so he may take it where it’s needed? Your comments are literally to try to make me angry because no one is actually as absurd as this in reality. The message isn’t to destroy miike, and you know that. The message is that this is a garbage decision. I laid out why. Now captain messenger can relay my message. Simple.

How in the world do you know what he is what he isn't doing? You stalking him?

dannyrotten · July 2023

ahmynuts said:

Chatterofforums said:

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts because he’s the one who wrote that Kraven will get rdts but zemo won’t. What kind of horse **** is that?!
Getting mad and aggressive at Miike for communicating the message isn't the best approach on this, I mean do you really think Miike has anito do with that decision? That decision is likely made by a completely different department and likely someone in a higher position.

You getting mad at Miike is like someone getting mad at a reporter who is reporting the news on an action that a company is taking. Being mad at the decision and the messenger is not one in the same.
Thank you, that's what I'm saying. Man is getting absolutely flamed just for relaying a direct message from the devs

Mike is the voice/go-to between us and developers. Stop acting like this man will get stressed from reading negative comments. It’s his job. Listen, relay, report. If we are mad, you know damn well he will relay to devs that there are many very mad people requesting compensation for the bush-league silent nerf they did on champ’s abilities. Not everyone reads forums and knows wth is going on why these champs are changed.

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

Mackey said:

ahmynuts said:

Nichoas_1 said:
@ahmynuts because he’s the one who wrote that Kraven will get rdts but zemo won’t. What kind of horse **** is that?!
So you're shooting the messenger? It's not like he makes any of these decisions. He's just the one who relays the info to us. At least give him a break till Jax gets back. Man's had it rough this week
Shooting the messenger sends a message 👍

Yes. The message of disrespect.

Darkness275 · July 2023

Darkness275 said:
Delete this please, posted it in the wrong area

I meant my post, not this thread.. lol

I_tell_no_tales_1 · July 2023

Matterdecay said:
no way people are actually this upset over it. i put my life into this game as im a shut in due to mental health and even i dont care about bugs/nerfs/fixes. I dont remember where it was but it was said many months ago that the special lock was not intentional. ALSO trello boards are used in tons of games for posting bugs, just cause you didnt know about the board doesnt mean it wasnt there for everyone to see. Does anyone who play this game play any other games too? its extrememly common for balance changes to happen. i dont get why this community pulls out pitchforks at the slight whiff of a champion change

I play other games
They also have a news and updates tab in the game screen itself which either shows any news regarding game or sends you to the official page of the game where they usually announce such things

Of course you wouldn’t give rank downs for Zemo

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