Our alliance leader, myself, and all the other officers (most have played MCOC since 2016) have found ourselves completely and utterly confused for the first time since 2016. We get the intention of these changes but the expected output/outcome might have actually made things just utterly confusing and inefficient for AW placement. For the first time in 7 years of this alliance, not even half of the members have placed their defenders.
It would be great if in the AW placement options, there would be a way to be able to just do things the old way until this fiasco (at least from my alliance's perspective) is sorted out.
The selected bg number is 1bg but it say 3bg , what's the problem
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Jax any update on how this will work? We've been seeing the same issue when setting 2 bgs. It shows 2 and when we move away it goes back to 3 bgs
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if members just place their defense in a deck like BG. Then officers can choose the champs from the deck of each players and place them in the bg and nodes.
The more I read and understand this new placement format, it completely screw any alliances that don’t do 3 BGs wars. It was so simple before. Anyone want to join war, place your champs. Now you have to worry if a player that join in war 1 will be available or want to join the next war.
SUGGESTION for KABAM..
Add a “NEXT WAR ONLY” button (or conversely, a “PERSISTENT” button, although that word may not be typically understood by everyone, especially if you have to translate that into other languages, thus maybe the NEXT WAR ONLY which would be more clearly understood), which would let someone say whether their Defenders they are about to place would be just for next war, or would continue for all future wars unless changed.
@NeinoIII , above would address your concern if they implemented that. Doesn’t prevent someone from saying “Persistent” though and then going away for a week. **Thus another SUGGESTION, that Leadership should be given the ability to CHANGE members assigned to which BG's, or REMOVE them from a BG, etc. Also Leadership needs to be able to place defenders onto map for defenders “joined” but not “placed” by people. Especially since 3 different options of Map Tier Difficulty possibilities, and people may only do that for 1 of them.
As for “WAR ROOM” tab being inconsistent when saying 3 BG's on top line, but only 1 or 2 BG's on line below that… That has ALWAYS been an issue before (had gotten better, but still often times was inconsistent).
If Summoners make changes to their masteries during the Attack Phase, they will need to take care to adjust their defensively-focused masteries prior to the conclusion of the next matchmaking period to ensure they are implemented in their defensive placement.
After all that yada… Kabam, you’ve just bombed the alliance war. Well done. Why are you trying so hard to lose customers? Stop being too smart, be efficient instead. Please.
If Summoners make changes to their masteries during the Attack Phase, they will need to take care to adjust their defensively-focused masteries prior to the conclusion of the next matchmaking period to ensure they are implemented in their defensive placement.
After all that yada… Kabam, you’ve just bombed the alliance war. Well done. Why are you trying so hard to lose customers? Stop being too smart, be efficient instead. Please.
I don’t understand , they already increased the number of offers for 4th July, made spring cleanings a solid thing , added the online store , do they really expect people to set alarms every 2 days for masteries so they can make us use a couple extra units ?
Literally , lately they had done so many good steps to avoid alliances being penalized by single players mistakes or habits : - the undo button - Energy refills - In-game tag - 6 hours boosts - 20% green boosts in the sigil - availability of (very expensive) boosts with units - attempt to ease officers’ load of work
All of that work and improvements they spent time and money into do really have to end up being cancelled because they need to grab us some extra units ? Do they really want to tell us developers could not work on a less stressing solutions or could not realize the damage they are making to so many non-US timezone people?
I don’t expect any reply from kabam for now because they are probably working on the new update’s bugs , which is also kinda comprehensible. I just hope they don’t make that an excuse to turn a deaf ear on this topic.
Setting masteries during the 4 hour matchmaking is a problem. Although it’s refreshing to see the company hasn’t lost the “let them eat cake” mentality, It would be nice for once if you could behave with an attitude of abundance. Stop acting like you are broke and digging through my couch cushions for change.
Just introduce defense mastery loadouts for war that can be locked for war defense (with fixed masteries) and not affect anything else, the way it works in BG defense
Make them cost 1000-2000 units, those who need them will get them. It’ll save a lot of trouble for officers and members in competitive alliances
If the idea of the new setup was “place and forget”, it’s not even remotely that at this point. With locked masteries it would be possible
So this change appears to be bad for competitive alliances due to the mastery issue and bad for non-competitive alliances that only run 1-2 unassigned BGs with varying participation between wars because someone can lock up spots in a BG for a whole season and the only way leadership can address it is to kick them.
Can anyone explain what we’re missing or how this new system is beneficial?
Just introduce defense mastery loadouts for war that can be locked for war defense (with fixed masteries) and not affect anything else, the way it works in BG defense
Make them cost 1000-2000 units, those who need them will get them. It’ll save a lot of trouble for officers and members in competitive alliances
If the idea of the new setup was “place and forget”, it’s not even remotely that at this point. With locked masteries it would be possible
In our first war with these changes, we ran into a problem where a few members placed defenders in Battlegroup 1, but the attack phase never happened. This is a headache for casual alliances like ours who just run one Battlegroup. It's tough for officers to manage.
Honestly, the new placement format seems to favor alliances with three Battlegroups only, which isn't ideal for us casual folks. It used to be simple: join the war, place your champs. Now, we have to worry if someone will be available for the next war. It's added extra complications and work.
Kabam, if you're listening, it would be awesome if there could be an option to keep using the old placement system until you sort out these issues. That would make the transition smoother for casual alliances like ours.
On another note, can we please have mastery loadouts specifically for Alliance War, like we do for Battlegrounds? It would save us time and make things more convenient.
That's all I wanted to say, which is sort of a summary of what most have already said, to be fair. Let's hope Kabam takes our feedback into account and makes some improvements.
has anyone else placement be running since Tuesday, our war been in placement since then no clue what's going on with war, members said they placed, game showing they haven't, been no response from kabam and this mess with aw, I taught attack Phase be up by now
has anyone else placement be running since Tuesday, our war been in placement since then no clue what's going on with war, members said they placed, game showing they haven't, been no response from kabam and this mess with aw, I taught attack Phase be up by now
Attack phase didn’t start. Hopefully just that war and hopefully matchmaking+attack will start for today's one.
As for placing or not, could be that some ppl placed but ONLY for the - or + 1 Tier Map level (not the CURRENT Tier Map).
Looking at summary BG roster from 3-BG main panel screens only shows if joined (or placed) for the CURRENT TIER. You would have to go in and Spectate that BG to be able to switch viewing to the +/- Tier Map views and see if they happened to place defenders in those instead.
The selected bg number is 1bg but it say 3bg , what's the problem
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Jax any update on how this will work? We've been seeing the same issue when setting 2 bgs. It shows 2 and when we move away it goes back to 3 bgs
I have the same issue as the posters above. We are auto-enlisted for one BG both on and off season and the new system opened up 3 BG's to place defenders. We are a casual alliance that runs one BG in AW with whoever is available. Now I have a handful of people randomly placed across three BG's and I don't have the ability to move them from one group to another or turn off the extra open BG's that we don't want. You have *not* made my job as an officer any easier. Old system was much easier to understand and manipulate.
Also, as the leader of the alliance, I can only confirm that there was chaos. The old system was better. Needless to say, you just added extra work to me and the officers.
Another great performance by kabam😂😂😂 AW Bug, arena Bug, but money offers always work good🤣 its funny you always repair bugs in few hours when its good for players for example when blade Bug u fix it in few hours but nick Bug take u half a year. You spiting on our faceswhit what u do for last half of year. U want money as never but nothing giving to us . You delete gold deals but ride money offers x2. Changing all **** around but not want to give upgrade rewards. U gave us bgs but maybe not all players want play that content. For the last half of year u gave us carina vol3 and 8.2… its a joke. Took revive farm away which was great for guys to not had 100% of content and what u gave us? Nothing (apothecary is a joke). No EoP, No. Variants, No nothing but only pick up prise for things that u cant get even in 10% as a f2p guy from content. Im not f2p. I have 16x6r5 and 3x7r2 and still think its fu**ed what u have done to this game
Attack phase didn’t start. Hopefully just that war and hopefully matchmaking+attack will start for today's one.
As for placing or not, could be that some ppl placed but ONLY for the - or + 1 Tier Map level (not the CURRENT Tier Map).
Looking at summary BG roster from 3-BG main panel screens only shows if joined (or placed) for the CURRENT TIER. You would have to go in and Spectate that BG to be able to switch viewing to the +/- Tier Map views and see if they happened to place defenders in those instead.
still no war attack after placement timer ran down and anyone who has placed there champs are locked into aw last few days now because this issue, placement ended last night, woke up this morning thinking be attack Phase but nope, War is broken
still no war attack after placement timer ran down and anyone who has placed there champs are locked into aw last few days now because this issue, placement ended last night, woke up this morning thinking be attack Phase but nope, War is broken
See new highlighted banner at top of forums. AW matchmaking has been disabled until further notice (because it wasn’t working and starting attacks).
But, as of this month's update, AW defenders are NOT LOCKED out from other content anymore. You can use them elsewhere.
Here's a suggestion for those of us who don't have a Degree in Rocket Science to understand this new placement system:
1. Do the usual defender placement of how it's usually done (meaning put the defenders like always). 2. Next AW, MCOC AW AI system will automatically place the same defenders where they were placed in the previous AW. (Leader or officer can change if they so want to, and whatever new changes are made, this configuration will be saved and be used for the next AW). 3. Rinse and repeat until the end of the season. 4. If an alliance member leaves, his defenders will be automatically deleted from AW AI system and whoever is replacing him will put his defenders which will then be saved into the BG's defender's configuration. If nobody replaces him, the nodes his defenders are on will be left blank automatically.
I don't know why something this simple can't be integrated. Why all the unnecessary complexity?
AW Persistent Placement is a good idea but we need some tweaks please:
1. Auto-placement option for players 2. Auto-sort option for leaders and officers, so you can move players to different bgs or consolidate in case you aren’t running 3bgs 2. Option for leaders to disable persistent placement for their alliance 3. Mastery loadouts, like we have in BG
You disabled matchmaking but champs that were placed on defense are locked into defense. If war is going to be down is there anyway we could have our champs back lol?
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It would be great if in the AW placement options, there would be a way to be able to just do things the old way until this fiasco (at least from my alliance's perspective) is sorted out.
Add a “NEXT WAR ONLY” button (or conversely, a “PERSISTENT” button, although that word may not be typically understood by everyone, especially if you have to translate that into other languages, thus maybe the NEXT WAR ONLY which would be more clearly understood), which would let someone say whether their Defenders they are about to place would be just for next war, or would continue for all future wars unless changed.
@NeinoIII , above would address your concern if they implemented that.
Doesn’t prevent someone from saying “Persistent” though and then going away for a week.
**Thus another SUGGESTION, that Leadership should be given the ability to CHANGE members assigned to which BG's, or REMOVE them from a BG, etc.
Also Leadership needs to be able to place defenders onto map for defenders “joined” but not “placed” by people. Especially since 3 different options of Map Tier Difficulty possibilities, and people may only do that for 1 of them.
That has ALWAYS been an issue before (had gotten better, but still often times was inconsistent).
After all that yada…
Kabam, you’ve just bombed the alliance war. Well done. Why are you trying so hard to lose customers? Stop being too smart, be efficient instead. Please.
Literally , lately they had done so many good steps to avoid alliances being penalized by single players mistakes or habits :
- the undo button
- Energy refills
- In-game tag
- 6 hours boosts
- 20% green boosts in the sigil
- availability of (very expensive) boosts with units
- attempt to ease officers’ load of work
All of that work and improvements they spent time and money into do really have to end up being cancelled because they need to grab us some extra units ?
Do they really want to tell us developers could not work on a less stressing solutions or could not realize the damage they are making to so many non-US timezone people?
I don’t expect any reply from kabam for now because they are probably working on the new update’s bugs , which is also kinda comprehensible.
I just hope they don’t make that an excuse to turn a deaf ear on this topic.
Make them cost 1000-2000 units, those who need them will get them. It’ll save a lot of trouble for officers and members in competitive alliances
If the idea of the new setup was “place and forget”, it’s not even remotely that at this point. With locked masteries it would be possible
Can anyone explain what we’re missing or how this new system is beneficial?
You messed up.
Honestly, the new placement format seems to favor alliances with three Battlegroups only, which isn't ideal for us casual folks. It used to be simple: join the war, place your champs. Now, we have to worry if someone will be available for the next war. It's added extra complications and work.
Kabam, if you're listening, it would be awesome if there could be an option to keep using the old placement system until you sort out these issues. That would make the transition smoother for casual alliances like ours.
On another note, can we please have mastery loadouts specifically for Alliance War, like we do for Battlegrounds? It would save us time and make things more convenient.
That's all I wanted to say, which is sort of a summary of what most have already said, to be fair. Let's hope Kabam takes our feedback into account and makes some improvements.
As for placing or not, could be that some ppl placed but ONLY for the - or + 1 Tier Map level (not the CURRENT Tier Map).
Looking at summary BG roster from 3-BG main panel screens only shows if joined (or placed) for the CURRENT TIER. You would have to go in and Spectate that BG to be able to switch viewing to the +/- Tier Map views and see if they happened to place defenders in those instead.
As for placing or not, could be that some ppl placed but ONLY for the - or + 1 Tier Map level (not the CURRENT Tier Map).
Looking at summary BG roster from 3-BG main panel screens only shows if joined (or placed) for the CURRENT TIER. You would have to go in and Spectate that BG to be able to switch viewing to the +/- Tier Map views and see if they happened to place defenders in those instead.
still no war attack after placement timer ran down and anyone who has placed there champs are locked into aw last few days now because this issue, placement ended last night, woke up this morning thinking be attack Phase but nope, War is broken
AW matchmaking has been disabled until further notice (because it wasn’t working and starting attacks).
But, as of this month's update, AW defenders are NOT LOCKED out from other content anymore.
You can use them elsewhere.
1. Do the usual defender placement of how it's usually done (meaning put the defenders like always).
2. Next AW, MCOC AW AI system will automatically place the same defenders where they were placed in the previous AW. (Leader or officer can change if they so want to, and whatever new changes are made, this configuration will be saved and be used for the next AW).
3. Rinse and repeat until the end of the season.
4. If an alliance member leaves, his defenders will be automatically deleted from AW AI system and whoever is replacing him will put his defenders which will then be saved into the BG's defender's configuration. If nobody replaces him, the nodes his defenders are on will be left blank automatically.
I don't know why something this simple can't be integrated. Why all the unnecessary complexity?
1. Auto-placement option for players
2. Auto-sort option for leaders and officers, so you can move players to different bgs or consolidate in case you aren’t running 3bgs
2. Option for leaders to disable persistent placement for their alliance
3. Mastery loadouts, like we have in BG