Rank down tickets for Zemo and Kraven…

Nandhish · July 2023

What the hell is trello board I haven't heard of it till now . You guys just want to Nerf him. This is ridiculously . I only took him to rank5 because of his special root lock . Even in deep down video it is said that root mechanism is special lock . I need rank down ticket for zemo too and in future if there Is a bug post in the fourm discussion not in trello board. Because of your carelessness we the player are wasting our time,money, resources etc and this is a Nerf intended to make zemo week. We need rank down ticket for zemo heck I also need all of my sig stones that I invested on zemo which was nearly 199 combination of both generic and skill but I am not asking for that . I need rank down ticket for zemo tooo. This game is already failing because of bug now you are nerfing some strong player and favourite player etc if this continues many will leave the game . So please take responsibility give rank down ticket for zemo tooo @Kabam Miike

Johnnoooooo · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:

SecondSkriller said:

GroundedWisdom said:

SecondSkriller said:

GroundedWisdom said:
It's not that random. Anyone who frequents the Forum is aware of it.
I think it's getting more hate than necessary. Granted, they've had issues keeping it updated, and it's been a work in progress, however it's what we asked for.
Players have been asking for years for a place to post issues that are being reported or investigated. This was an effort to accommodate that.
You know, communication slipping is one thing. I respect when people point that out. It's another to berate the efforts they actually make. Regardless of your feelings, they're still putting in effort.
Listen, you said you’re not a villain, then trust, I play the game since 2015 and have been on the forums since 2017, I never knew about it, it’s got like 9.2k views. This thread has more than double… you gotta trust us that we ain’t lying.
I've been around for 7 and a half years. I'm not new. I was on this Forum, and the last. Both cases, there is a lack or acknowledgement for the efforts they do make.
I'm not suggesting people praise Trello, or Kabam. I understand the issue is it wasn't visible for some people. I get it. That doesn't mean we need to take a deuce on the fact that they did make efforts. Through a venue that people asked for. Crossed wires, failure in communication, sure.
In order for communication to take place, both sides must be willing to meet each other. Not just demands.
And you support the company or the people that are now disappointed? You do know rank down tickets are nothing right? The resources spent on the game, real money, is gone and in return we have a champion that is sub par. He didn’t use to be this way, so no matter their effort, why yould you not wish for the people to receive this champion’s resources back in-game? Kabam is losing nothing here… the only ones potentially winning are the players.
I support both, actually. The company is made of people, just like the Players. All trying to do a job.
I don't subscribe to the idea that it's "nothing". Everything in the game represents hours of work.
If you're asking me to support RDTs, I don't. I wish they were never programmed. They were introduced for a very specific purpose, and we've never heard the end of them.
Everytime they're given, that purpose is misconstrued, and it just feeds people asking for more.
I'm not ignorant to the fact that people spent time, energy, and money Ranking Champs. However, it's their product. They have the right to change it as is needed. That much is outlined in the ToS.
They're as accommodating as possible in these instances. More than I would be because unless it applies to major changes to a way a Champ is intended to perform, I don't agree it applies.
There are no end-user purchases in a game like this. It's not even a purchase for ownership. It's a lease to use their product, and as much as people call them "Kascam" and cry about Bait-And-Switch, and claim precedence, they've shown a consistent ability to take responsibility and make things right whenever they can. That doesn't always translate into giving people EVERYTHING they want. Just as much as they can, as appropriately as they can, without infringing on design constraints.
Go ahead, be mad. Just stop and realize they do more than people are letting on when they grab the pitchforks. Not because I'm "pro-Kabam", because it's the truth.

I truly believe no one wants rank down tickets to exist, I don't, I don't want to have to rank down a champ, I want that champ to perform as it does in the deep dive, I want that champ to be as stated in his balancing update, I want that champ I ranked up to remain as is, if what I spent my time an money on wasn't tampered with I wouldn't need a rank down ticket.. ide rather zemo go back to how he was last month, if not a rdt is required.. ide prefer none of this to be happening at all, and him go back to as he was..
Kabam have blatantly used this trello board as a get out clause to dig their heels in, and that's not right, the average player doesn't even use the forums let alone dig into that developers tool..

Johnnoooooo · July 2023

@Kabam Miike even apologised for the bad communication, that is admittance to the wrong doing in this case, and alone justifies the need for a rdt in this instance.. your bad communication lead to zemo being ranked up for an ability he now no longer has

Cassy · July 2023

I mean they could also gone the Hulk way with His sp1 stun.

As Long as u chain in another root, the time it lasts progessively shortens by a fixed value. Only after a cooldown U get the full duartion back.

Then give Special lock to sp1 and sp2, plus Defender can only gain max 99% Power. Or Powerrate IS very much lowered Like quicksilver can in some scenarios with His sig.

That would bring Kraven up to not only a Agent Venom synergy.

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

SecondSkriller said:

GroundedWisdom said:
If by a beautiful reply you mean implying I'm being intentionally obtuse and missing the fact that people just want the Tickets for Zemo too, then that hasn't escaped me. I'm just not much for being patronized.
People are talking about a cheese that shouldn't exist in the game.
You’re not the one who decides what "should" and "shouldn’t" exist in the game. Same goes for rank down tickets. Your "feelings" about them simply don’t hold water. They are not even enough in most cases, since sig stones and awakening gems are valuable resources people will never see back. Yet you "don’t like them". Go talk more about how this billion dollar company should be given grace when they can’t even spare a rank down ticket…

You're right, I'm not. The Devs are. They said it's not supposed to exist themselves.

Tasty_Yum_Yums · July 2023

I have to reiterate, Root was not a bug. It was working as intended. The devs decided that they wanted to change it because they didn’t like some of the outcomes it yielded (to the player base)

@Kabam Miike saying the player base should have gone to the trello boards because that’s where bugs are tracked is inadequate. It was not a bug, so even if the trello board was a relevant thing before your response to this post, the player base still can’t be asked to assume this issue would be there.

SecondSkriller · July 2023

Tasty_Yum_Yums said:
I have to reiterate, Root was not a bug. It was working as intended. The devs decided that they wanted to change it because they didn’t like some of the outcomes it yielded (to the player base)

@Kabam Miike saying the player base should have gone to the trello boards because that’s where bugs are tracked is inadequate. It was not a bug, so even if the trello board was a relevant thing before your response to this post, the player base still can’t be asked to assume this issue would be there.

Completely true, root was performing at "100% reliability" as they said and they did not like that. That is not a bug, my friends, that is just a very powerful ability that they wanted to nerf. To then insist it’s a bug, shadily add it to the trello instead of a GIGANTIC post where root is being nerfed, is so, so disingenuous. They lie about being sorry sadly, because words are not enough to compensate players with, basically treating us like we’re stupid and calling root "bugged" even though they SPECIFICALLY EXPRESS it was just "too strong". They need to take accountability for their mistake, which is NOT TESTING ROOT AT ALL BEFORE IMPLEMENTING IT IN ZEMO’S KIT. If they had they would have noticed how easy it is to lock root and done something about the power gain.

That’s just the way it is.

BigBlueOx · July 2023

Tasty_Yum_Yums said:
I have to reiterate, Root was not a bug. It was working as intended. The devs decided that they wanted to change it because they didn’t like some of the outcomes it yielded (to the player base)

@Kabam Miike saying the player base should have gone to the trello boards because that’s where bugs are tracked is inadequate. It was not a bug, so even if the trello board was a relevant thing before your response to this post, the player base still can’t be asked to assume this issue would be there.

That’s a good point. This was the 2nd silent nerf this month. Mistakes happen and after the fact communications are appreciated but it doesn’t make it not a “silent nerf”. Resources were spent because of these communication gaps. Giving players a second chance at that decision when they did not have all the information is the appropriate middle ground.

I_tell_no_tales_1 · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:

SecondSkriller said:

GroundedWisdom said:
If by a beautiful reply you mean implying I'm being intentionally obtuse and missing the fact that people just want the Tickets for Zemo too, then that hasn't escaped me. I'm just not much for being patronized.
People are talking about a cheese that shouldn't exist in the game.
You’re not the one who decides what "should" and "shouldn’t" exist in the game. Same goes for rank down tickets. Your "feelings" about them simply don’t hold water. They are not even enough in most cases, since sig stones and awakening gems are valuable resources people will never see back. Yet you "don’t like them". Go talk more about how this billion dollar company should be given grace when they can’t even spare a rank down ticket…
You're right, I'm not. The Devs are. They said it's not supposed to exist themselves.

Love how you never told if you did or did not know about the Trello post made by Kabam prior to Miike telling us.
You just behave like a troll
I know you might have common sense and basic intelligence & reasoning abilities but your responses somehow make it seem like you lack those things.

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.

Johnnoooooo · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.

Tbf. I believe this is more call for rdts than moleman, at least moleman was an actual bug, where his description never aligned with what he was actually doing.. zemo here, they out right nerfed his core mechanic after people paid actual currency and invested time gotten resources into him..

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

To be fair, they did for Mole Man as well. In the interest of accuracy.

BigBlueOx · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:
To be fair, they did for Mole Man as well. In the interest of accuracy.

Yup but like stated Root was never defined to be anything other what was being advertised, and at every visible oopportunity there was never a communication about Root out performing it’s intended target. Instead they allowed resources to be heavily invested in an champ they were actively looking to change a core mechanism that champ utilized.

People ranked Zemo over other champs like Fury and Kingpin because of this utility, not for any other reason, as this utility allowed Zemo to do things they couldn’t. Now he can’t. I’m sure it’s a folly of unintentional well meaning mistakes that led us to this point and not ill intent but the current end result still feels like a bait and switch if the current response stands as is

SecondSkriller · July 2023

BigBlueOx said:

GroundedWisdom said:
To be fair, they did for Mole Man as well. In the interest of accuracy.
Yup but like stated Root was never defined to be anything other what was being advertised, and at every visible oopportunity there was never a communication about Root out performing it’s intended target. Instead they allowed resources to be heavily invested in an champ they were actively looking to change a core mechanism that champ utilized.

People ranked Zemo over other champs like Fury and Kingpin because of this utility, not for any other reason, as this utility allowed Zemo to do things they couldn’t. Now he can’t. I’m sure it’s a folly of unintentional well meaning mistakes that led us to this point and not ill intent but the current end result still feels like a bait and switch if the current response stands as is

Zemo can now probably only handle less than half of the matchups he could before and even in those he has a harder time. And for some reason they plan to nerf him aswell? What the hell are they doing? He doesn’t need a nerf at all, the whole thing about the armor getting nullified is now countered by the root change, why would they not leave it in, you can’t lock anything anymore even if your armor gets nullified…

BloodyCruelty · July 2023

Look at karatemikes Videos. He never used zemo lock. 15 furybuffs: you first have to get that much😅😅 it doesnt matter. The only nerf is that you cant abuse him on powersnack anymore. But therefore you have a lower duration until cleanse comes back he isnt that weak still r5 champ. But its disrespectful to not communicate. @secon

BloodyCruelty · July 2023

@SecondSkriller

SecondSkriller · July 2023

BloodyCruelty said:
Look at karatemikes Videos. He never used zemo lock. 15 furybuffs: you first have to get that much😅😅 it doesnt matter. The only nerf is that you cant abuse him on powersnack anymore. But therefore you have a lower duration until cleanse comes back he isnt that weak still r5 champ. But its disrespectful to not communicate. @secon

Trust me I’ve used Zemo probably 10 times more than Karatemike, no offense directed towards him, I have yet to see someone who actually performs the lock correctly the way I do in this video:

https://youtu.be/WafflqagFcU

Coppin · July 2023

Its so easy to disagree when it doesnt affect them...
People that don't even have r4s or r5s trying to tell people who bought 4th of july deals its fine.. 🤣

TrongNov · July 2023

Could you guys just move on with the thread and stop quoting and answering him pls? Geez

Marvelfan30 · July 2023

TrongNov said:
Could you guys just move on with the thread and stop quoting and answering him pls? Geez

Never

ZeroFrostNinja · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.

Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.
Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.

That precedent is one of my issues with it. If you've been following.

Coppin · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.
Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.
That precedent is one of my issues with it. If you've been following.

U r trolling cause you got 1 5* moleman (per your screenshot in an arena match, doubt u leave a 6* out of deck), you got 2 r4s as of your description of your account and also when you say you are not paragon yet (doubt one of those r4 is Zemo).
This issue doesnt affect you at all, not on money, not on mats, not on gameplay.. NOTHING at all.. meanwhile you have players who used r5 gems and mats from 4th of july sales to get completely screwed... Sometimes it makes more sense to stay out of some posts...

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

Coppin said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.
Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.
That precedent is one of my issues with it. If you've been following.
U r trolling cause you got 1 5* moleman (per your screenshot in an arena match, doubt u leave a 6* out of deck), you got 2 r4s as of your description of your account and also when you say you are not paragon yet (doubt one of those r4 is Zemo).
This issue doesnt affect you at all, not on money, not on mats, not on gameplay.. NOTHING at all.. meanwhile you have players who used r5 gems and mats from 4th of july sales to get completely screwed... Sometimes it makes more sense to stay out of some posts...

Your response is to take shots at my Account? That's original.
I don't agree that Tickets should be given. Period. In fact, I empathized with people who used Resources. So your comment is redundant.
I'm not going to suddenly change my view on RDTs. People who troll just say things to get a reaction. You'll find my opinion has been the same over the years. Agree to disagree. I'm not the one making cheap shots here.

ZeroFrostNinja · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.
Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.
That precedent is one of my issues with it. If you've been following.

Again, you keep repeating that without explaining why you have a problem with it. The precedent has been set already, you can't change that no matter how much you want. If your reasoning is just "It's my opinion, I feel like it" that's precisely why people call you a troll and nobody takes you seriously.

Coppin · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:

Coppin said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.
Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.
That precedent is one of my issues with it. If you've been following.
U r trolling cause you got 1 5* moleman (per your screenshot in an arena match, doubt u leave a 6* out of deck), you got 2 r4s as of your description of your account and also when you say you are not paragon yet (doubt one of those r4 is Zemo).
This issue doesnt affect you at all, not on money, not on mats, not on gameplay.. NOTHING at all.. meanwhile you have players who used r5 gems and mats from 4th of july sales to get completely screwed... Sometimes it makes more sense to stay out of some posts...
Your response is to take shots at my Account? That's original.
I don't agree that Tickets should be given. Period. In fact, I empathized with people who used Resources. So your comment is redundant.
I'm not going to suddenly change my view on RDTs. People who troll just say things to get a reaction. You'll find my opinion has been the same over the years. Agree to disagree. I'm not the one making cheap shots here.

Its really not, its to tell you that u have not been affected negatively and you are just trying to piss off who spent resources and money who were really affected..
Your respose as an adult is to victimize yourself over my comments?..
And that's what you always do.. divert coversations.. end em with "I agree to disagree" you know on this you are wrong.. you are just trolling people, cause this didn't affect you, it might have even benefitted you cause now you know not to rank him up...
And you are right Trolls say stuff to get reactions.. how did this affect you to even HAVE an opinion...
This is not about game play, this is not about the future of the game, an event or rewards, this is about 1 specific champion that got nerfed AFTER rebalancing over notes on a 3rd party info site..

ZeroFrostNinja · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:

Coppin said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.
Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.
That precedent is one of my issues with it. If you've been following.
U r trolling cause you got 1 5* moleman (per your screenshot in an arena match, doubt u leave a 6* out of deck), you got 2 r4s as of your description of your account and also when you say you are not paragon yet (doubt one of those r4 is Zemo).
This issue doesnt affect you at all, not on money, not on mats, not on gameplay.. NOTHING at all.. meanwhile you have players who used r5 gems and mats from 4th of july sales to get completely screwed... Sometimes it makes more sense to stay out of some posts...
Your response is to take shots at my Account? That's original.
I don't agree that Tickets should be given. Period. In fact, I empathized with people who used Resources. So your comment is redundant.
I'm not going to suddenly change my view on RDTs. People who troll just say things to get a reaction. You'll find my opinion has been the same over the years. Agree to disagree. I'm not the one making cheap shots here.

He's not taking shots at your account you genius, he's pointing out that you're shouting the loudest when you have the least to gain in this situation. Another reason why you are a troll.

SecondSkriller · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:

Coppin said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.
Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.
That precedent is one of my issues with it. If you've been following.
U r trolling cause you got 1 5* moleman (per your screenshot in an arena match, doubt u leave a 6* out of deck), you got 2 r4s as of your description of your account and also when you say you are not paragon yet (doubt one of those r4 is Zemo).
This issue doesnt affect you at all, not on money, not on mats, not on gameplay.. NOTHING at all.. meanwhile you have players who used r5 gems and mats from 4th of july sales to get completely screwed... Sometimes it makes more sense to stay out of some posts...
Your response is to take shots at my Account? That's original.
I don't agree that Tickets should be given. Period. In fact, I empathized with people who used Resources. So your comment is redundant.
I'm not going to suddenly change my view on RDTs. People who troll just say things to get a reaction. You'll find my opinion has been the same over the years. Agree to disagree. I'm not the one making cheap shots here.

You don’t have any of the affected champions ranked and you’re talking about this? I don’t think your opinion has a lot of weight to it, you’ve definetly never played Kraven or Zemo if that’s your account… and since you’ve been on the forum for so long you’re more of a casual player then, which is fine, but for you to comment on the issue that affects a new champion that’s a bit rich, since you most likely didn’t buy a single offer on july 4th, you just don’t get the frustration.

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:

ZeroFrostNinja said:

GroundedWisdom said:
Yes, I knew about it before Miike pointed it out.
The Forum isn't just here for one purpose alone. There is information here. If someone takes the time to read the Posts they make, as well as other Players, it's not hard to see what's shared.
You're right, it wasn't communicated here. It was also not inquired about. No one asked if the interaction was supposed to be that way. They just Ranked him.
Calling me a Troll is the standard response when someone says things that don't line up with what people want.
I get it. People are upset about the lack of communication. They're upset Tickets were given in one instance and not the other. I can see that. Just because I don't agree that Tickets should be given doesn't mean I'm ignorant to that.
I have two sides. One that feels for people investing Resources in something that has changed, and another side that believes Tickets are only for a specific situation. That situation becomes less and less clear each time they're given in other circumstances, and they're asked for again and again.
I'm not sure how it's unclear that someone can hold different views on something, but as I said before, nothing is ever black-and-white.
Nobody is calling you a troll because your view isn't aligning with other people. People are calling you a troll because you keep repeating the same talking points over and over again with no substance behind it despite numerous different perspectives being put in front of you. It's always the same "I just don't feel like RDTs should be given" even if there seem to be precedent for it, even though it seems like the decision that would make the most people happy, even though it seems warranted by Kabam using a Trello board that 99.999% of the community hasn't heard about to justify their lack of communication, even though it would require minimal additional effort since they already agreed to send out Kraven RDTs, even though it will do nothing to alter the game economy. You sound like a video game NPC repeating the same lines over and over again.
That precedent is one of my issues with it. If you've been following.
Again, you keep repeating that without explaining why you have a problem with it. The precedent has been set already, you can't change that no matter how much you want. If your reasoning is just "It's my opinion, I feel like it" that's precisely why people call you a troll and nobody takes you seriously.

We're here to express our "feelings and opinions". Besides that, I've already explained it pages ago. RDTs were created for a very specific purpose. Since then, they've been extended for a number of other reasons and not only does that confuse what they're for, it just fuels the demand for more. "You gave them then....you gave them for this....you gave them for that...."
That's not just my feelings. It's been proven over the years. You can call it what you like, but we're not going to agree on this. If I don't agree with Kabam’s decision to give them, although I respect it, then I'm not going to agree with the demand on the Player's side either. I also extended that same respect to the Players, but people seem dead-set on arguing because I don't agree that Tickets are warranted.

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