AI is unnaturally fast

Madman_marvin · July 2023

I’m getting parried after enemies throw heavies and specials as well as while trying to intercept with specials. I’m losing BG matches because the AI is doing the impossible.

Ansh_A · July 2023

You cannot punish heavies and specials anymore.

AI is reacting very fast. They throw special and block even if you time your counterattack perfectly

Madman_marvin · July 2023

Ansh_A said:
You cannot punish heavies and specials anymore.

AI is reacting very fast. They throw special and block even if you time your counterattack perfectly

I’m seeing this too. Specials getting thrown seemingly right before they’re actually supposed to be able to. Also, Herc SP2 whiffing on first hits.

Deacon · July 2023

Anyone know why Bishop all of a sudden can't parry Zemo?? It only happens to me in Battlegrounds. I can parry him all day and night in quests, duels etc. Get into a BG match and I literally can not parry him with Bishop.

ahmynuts · July 2023

Usagicassidy · July 2023

I was monthly event questing and side quests for a few hours, then switched over to Incursions. As soon as I started incursions the speed felt like it was 1.5x faster than everything else I had been previously doing. It was so noticeable because of the hour or more I'd been regular questing.

AverageDesi · July 2023

Deacon said:
Anyone know why Bishop all of a sudden can't parry Zemo?? It only happens to me in Battlegrounds. I can parry him all day and night in quests, duels etc. Get into a BG match and I literally can not parry him with Bishop.

He does have non contact attacks that you can't parry

Karuseus · July 2023

AverageDesi said:

Deacon said:
Anyone know why Bishop all of a sudden can't parry Zemo?? It only happens to me in Battlegrounds. I can parry him all day and night in quests, duels etc. Get into a BG match and I literally can not parry him with Bishop.
He does have non contact attacks that you can't parry

This, or Zemo inflicted those disorient passives, reducing your bishop’s defensive ability accuracy to parry-stun his attacks that makes contact

Deacon · July 2023

Karuseus said:

AverageDesi said:

Deacon said:
Anyone know why Bishop all of a sudden can't parry Zemo?? It only happens to me in Battlegrounds. I can parry him all day and night in quests, duels etc. Get into a BG match and I literally can not parry him with Bishop.
He does have non contact attacks that you can't parry
This, or Zemo inflicted those disorient passives, reducing your bishop’s defensive ability accuracy to parry-stun his attacks that makes contact

i considered that but nope. I never have issues with Bishop or OG Storm or Apoc against him .. and parry is the one thing in his kit that he can't purify but none of them can parry him in BGs and only BGs. Might just be me who knows.

*EDIT

Just noticed in a match just now that it indeed says "PARRY" but he is not being parried.

hi_im_sir · July 2023

Deacon said:

Karuseus said:

AverageDesi said:

Deacon said:
Anyone know why Bishop all of a sudden can't parry Zemo?? It only happens to me in Battlegrounds. I can parry him all day and night in quests, duels etc. Get into a BG match and I literally can not parry him with Bishop.
He does have non contact attacks that you can't parry
This, or Zemo inflicted those disorient passives, reducing your bishop’s defensive ability accuracy to parry-stun his attacks that makes contact
i considered that but nope. I never have issues with Bishop or OG Storm or Apoc against him .. and parry is the one thing in his kit that he can't purify but none of them can parry him in BGs and only BGs. Might just be me who knows.

*EDIT

Just noticed in a match just now that it indeed says "PARRY" but he is not being parried.

did you parry his mediums or lights?

TrongNov · July 2023

Same feeling here. Once in a while, opponents are so impossibly quick. I've been playing Ghost for years. Was playing hades rift, fighting against Hood, he did medium and light in Ghost's phase, I was about to retaliate then Hood suddenly threw his sp1. Also, do you feel the window to punish Purgatory after her sp2 is so tight right now. In the past, once you dex her sp2 beam, you would feel quite comfortable to dash in. Now for many times, when I dash in after dexing her sp2, she can block my attack

Vegeta9001 · July 2023

I wish the AI in BG was fast, or at least moved any direction that isn't backwards. AI is a mess across the board, may as well make this season all or nothing when in sat baiting a special for literally 90 seconds and go on to lose the fight by about 500 Points because a toad, or a titania didn't want to use their special.

Shake_a_Quake · July 2023

I also wonder, how much does one have to Dex or hit the block of the AI, to make em throw their specials....? (A lot of times, it takes an impossibly long time to bait specials). I wish I could femme fatale seduce the AI, at this point 🤦

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

Vegeta9001 said:
I wish the AI in BG was fast, or at least moved any direction that isn't backwards. AI is a mess across the board, may as well make this season all or nothing when in sat baiting a special for literally 90 seconds and go on to lose the fight by about 500 Points because a toad, or a titania didn't want to use their special.

It seems more calculated. It's either hyper aggressive, or waits until that one opening to fire a Special.
I mean, I'm not going into speculation about why, because I have no idea. To be honest, I don't care. All I know is it needs a serious examination and overhaul. The experience isn't just challenging. It's unforgiving.

Pikolu · July 2023

GroundedWisdom said:

Vegeta9001 said:
I wish the AI in BG was fast, or at least moved any direction that isn't backwards. AI is a mess across the board, may as well make this season all or nothing when in sat baiting a special for literally 90 seconds and go on to lose the fight by about 500 Points because a toad, or a titania didn't want to use their special.
It seems more calculated. It's either hyper aggressive, or waits until that one opening to fire a Special.
I mean, I'm not going into speculation about why, because I have no idea. To be honest, I don't care. All I know is it needs a serious examination and overhaul. The experience isn't just challenging. It's unforgiving.

MSD is secretly playing against everyone, that's why. 🤣

Mackey · July 2023

Shake_a_Quake said:
I also wonder, how much does one have to Dex or hit the block of the AI, to make em throw their specials....? (A lot of times, it takes an impossibly long time to bait specials). I wish I could femme fatale seduce the AI, at this point 🤦

This is every match I have in BGs of late lol they also seem to just keep dashing backwards and holding block 80% of the time. I genuinely wonder how some guys are still beating my champs in 40 seconds or less and I can't even end then before the 2 mins is up coz of the passiveness 😂

Deacon · July 2023

hi_im_sir said:

Deacon said:

Karuseus said:

AverageDesi said:

Deacon said:
Anyone know why Bishop all of a sudden can't parry Zemo?? It only happens to me in Battlegrounds. I can parry him all day and night in quests, duels etc. Get into a BG match and I literally can not parry him with Bishop.
He does have non contact attacks that you can't parry
This, or Zemo inflicted those disorient passives, reducing your bishop’s defensive ability accuracy to parry-stun his attacks that makes contact
i considered that but nope. I never have issues with Bishop or OG Storm or Apoc against him .. and parry is the one thing in his kit that he can't purify but none of them can parry him in BGs and only BGs. Might just be me who knows.

*EDIT

Just noticed in a match just now that it indeed says "PARRY" but he is not being parried.
did you parry his mediums or lights?

no idea at this point lol. i ran duels and it works just fine .. it only happens in BGs. i can parry him all day long in duels, event quest ... right from the start of the fight. but nope, not in BG.

Pikolu · July 2023

Deacon said:

hi_im_sir said:

Deacon said:

Karuseus said:

AverageDesi said:

Deacon said:
Anyone know why Bishop all of a sudden can't parry Zemo?? It only happens to me in Battlegrounds. I can parry him all day and night in quests, duels etc. Get into a BG match and I literally can not parry him with Bishop.
He does have non contact attacks that you can't parry
This, or Zemo inflicted those disorient passives, reducing your bishop’s defensive ability accuracy to parry-stun his attacks that makes contact
i considered that but nope. I never have issues with Bishop or OG Storm or Apoc against him .. and parry is the one thing in his kit that he can't purify but none of them can parry him in BGs and only BGs. Might just be me who knows.

*EDIT

Just noticed in a match just now that it indeed says "PARRY" but he is not being parried.
did you parry his mediums or lights?
no idea at this point lol. i ran duels and it works just fine .. it only happens in BGs. i can parry him all day long in duels, event quest ... right from the start of the fight. but nope, not in BG.

Use the combo tracker to see which hits you are parrying. Zemo has noncontact mediums so very vew champions can parry his mediums.

WayWorn2525 · July 2023

Whenever scorpion or ms pulls out an sp1, I just block. It’s a waste of time and up to dodge back since ai can cover more ground than u can dashing back. Sure like to see how the devs fair in this

GroundedWisdom · July 2023

WayWorn2525 said:
Whenever scorpion or ms pulls out an sp1, I just block. It’s a waste of time and up to dodge back since ai can cover more ground than u can dashing back. Sure like to see how the devs fair in this

That one is a tricky one. You need distance to start with.

Laceros · July 2023

Mfs when opponents arent sandbags:

JT_Supreme · July 2023

I got parried while I was mid combo that took all my health and lost round 3 of bg, super frustrating.

AverageDesi · July 2023

Deacon said:

hi_im_sir said:

Deacon said:

Karuseus said:

AverageDesi said:

Deacon said:
Anyone know why Bishop all of a sudden can't parry Zemo?? It only happens to me in Battlegrounds. I can parry him all day and night in quests, duels etc. Get into a BG match and I literally can not parry him with Bishop.
He does have non contact attacks that you can't parry
This, or Zemo inflicted those disorient passives, reducing your bishop’s defensive ability accuracy to parry-stun his attacks that makes contact
i considered that but nope. I never have issues with Bishop or OG Storm or Apoc against him .. and parry is the one thing in his kit that he can't purify but none of them can parry him in BGs and only BGs. Might just be me who knows.

*EDIT

Just noticed in a match just now that it indeed says "PARRY" but he is not being parried.
did you parry his mediums or lights?
no idea at this point lol. i ran duels and it works just fine .. it only happens in BGs. i can parry him all day long in duels, event quest ... right from the start of the fight. but nope, not in BG.

Could you record a duel @Deacon ? Or screenshots ?

Polygon · July 2023

This just happened to me. I was fighting hulkling with ghost and after letting him hit into my phase, they reacted faster before my medium can connect. First scenario they dexed away after hitting into phase, next one I ended up eating a parry.

I thought it was just hulkling having speedy recovery. Should’ve known it was another ingame faulty occurence

AverageDesi · July 2023

Polygon said:
This just happened to me. I was fighting hulkling with ghost and after letting him hit into my phase, they reacted faster before my medium can connect. First scenario they dexed away after hitting into phase, next one I ended up eating a parry.

I thought it was just hulkling having speedy recovery. Should’ve known it was another ingame faulty occurence

This has been there pretty much forever. Or at least for years .In any case it's not new.

If you don't immediately punish the first medium, they can always remove themselves. If you want with 100% guarantee, hit the opponent, use light attack after their first medium

I_tell_no_tales_1 · July 2023

WayWorn2525 said:
Whenever scorpion or ms pulls out an sp1, I just block. It’s a waste of time and up to dodge back since ai can cover more ground than u can dashing back. Sure like to see how the devs fair in this

I have dexed scorpy boy's sp1 plenty of times
It's just that you need to have 1 or 2 dash backs worth of distance from him when he launches it. After that just dash back as fast as you can

Vegeta9001 · July 2023

I_tell_no_tales_1 said:

WayWorn2525 said:
Whenever scorpion or ms pulls out an sp1, I just block. It’s a waste of time and up to dodge back since ai can cover more ground than u can dashing back. Sure like to see how the devs fair in this
I have dexed scorpy boy's sp1 plenty of times
It's just that you need to have 1 or 2 dash backs worth of distance from him when he launches it. After that just dash back as fast as you can

I would but my character likes to put his block up for one singular frame every single.dashback, and once I initiate even a one frame block I'm stuck blocking the whole special.

I miss old mcoc when I could dex multiple times in a row fluidly.

Pikolu · July 2023

Vegeta9001 said:

I_tell_no_tales_1 said:

WayWorn2525 said:
Whenever scorpion or ms pulls out an sp1, I just block. It’s a waste of time and up to dodge back since ai can cover more ground than u can dashing back. Sure like to see how the devs fair in this
I have dexed scorpy boy's sp1 plenty of times
It's just that you need to have 1 or 2 dash backs worth of distance from him when he launches it. After that just dash back as fast as you can
I would but my character likes to put his block up for one singular frame every single.dashback, and once I initiate even a one frame block I'm stuck blocking the whole special.

I miss old mcoc when I could dex multiple times in a row fluidly.

Dex with your right thumb from the right side of the screen to not get a block input on the dex. This is also critical if you use Lady D because her sp3 puts her right in front of the enemy so if they throw a light, you'll get a blocked hit on the dex and lose ferocity.

ahmynuts · July 2023

Vegeta9001 said:

I_tell_no_tales_1 said:

WayWorn2525 said:
Whenever scorpion or ms pulls out an sp1, I just block. It’s a waste of time and up to dodge back since ai can cover more ground than u can dashing back. Sure like to see how the devs fair in this
I have dexed scorpy boy's sp1 plenty of times
It's just that you need to have 1 or 2 dash backs worth of distance from him when he launches it. After that just dash back as fast as you can
I would but my character likes to put his block up for one singular frame every single.dashback, and once I initiate even a one frame block I'm stuck blocking the whole special.

I miss old mcoc when I could dex multiple times in a row fluidly.

If your finger touches the screen before you swipe it'll register as a block then dex. That's how i think it works at least. If you're using your left thumb to dex play a match or two deliberately making sure to swipe the entire input. If that doesn't change anything I wouldn't be surprised if it was an input issue

SuelGames · July 2023

Tbh whats been pissing me off the most is you launch your relic mid combo, and somehow your stupid relic atack still misses, like wtf, like the reach isnt enough or something. Not in all relics, but some

Madman_marvin · July 2023

SuelGames said:
Tbh whats been pissing me off the most is you launch your relic mid combo, and somehow your stupid relic atack still misses, like wtf, like the reach isnt enough or something. Not in all relics, but some

This especially happens if you try to intercept with your relic.

AI is unnaturally fast

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