When is it gonna be fixed

MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21
edited July 2023 in General Discussion

So its gonna last like a day or what? Maybe 2? 3? 4? Yall said it was gonna be for some several hours, I dont think yall understand the concept of "several hours”. Its acc sad how kabam treats this situation and community. Its gonna be even more stupid to not let us get the bg rewards some of us grinded 24/7. I had a generic, sig stones, rank up materials that I gave to a champ i got from the mythic crystals. 9k 7 star shards before i did this exploit and most probably knowing kabam they not gonna compensate anything back because they see us as the one who had entirely the fault and with that message its pretty obvious they cant accept the fact they did something dumb but just blame the players. Unprofessional act from yall.
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  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21
    XFREEDOMX said:

    Seriously? 95% of the community (unless those who exploited) will roast you! There is no excuse "They messed up so I took advantage of it". You did something immoral and you are being punished for it. Wait it out!

    I totally know that. But why blame only the players that did this?? respond to this with a real answer. The message CLEARLY directs and blames to only the PLAYERS. kabam cant just accept the fact they messed up big time too
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,819 Guardian
    Mamapucha said:


    So its gonna last like a day or what? Maybe 2? 3? 4? Yall said it was gonna be for some several hours, I dont think yall understand the concept of "several hours”. Its acc sad how kabam treats this situation and community. Its gonna be even more stupid to not let us get the bg rewards some of us grinded 24/7. I had a generic, sig stones, rank up materials that I gave to a champ i got from the mythic crystals. 9k 7 star shards before i did this exploit and most probably knowing kabam they not gonna compensate anything back because they see us as the one who had entirely the fault and with that message its pretty obvious they cant accept the fact they did something dumb but just blame the players. Unprofessional act from yall.

    You’ve already commented in the main MERGED thread, so you have seen the latest update from Jax there about how long it is taking and how far along they are.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.
  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21

    Mamapucha said:


    So its gonna last like a day or what? Maybe 2? 3? 4? Yall said it was gonna be for some several hours, I dont think yall understand the concept of "several hours”. Its acc sad how kabam treats this situation and community. Its gonna be even more stupid to not let us get the bg rewards some of us grinded 24/7. I had a generic, sig stones, rank up materials that I gave to a champ i got from the mythic crystals. 9k 7 star shards before i did this exploit and most probably knowing kabam they not gonna compensate anything back because they see us as the one who had entirely the fault and with that message its pretty obvious they cant accept the fact they did something dumb but just blame the players. Unprofessional act from yall.

    You’ve already commented in the main MERGED thread, so you have seen the latest update from Jax there about how long it is taking and how far along they are.
    I dont care about that. They are taking that long when they said in the message it was gonna be just some several hours. Its been 18 hours. In my post I mainly talk about too how we are gonna get nothing like the resources we waisted and I was about to open a 7 star. But they prob are gonna give us nothing. If we dont get bg rewards youre gonna see how many of the player base that did this is gonna quit. Cause of this ass company that blames just on the players and im so close to refunding all the money I wasted in july 4th. Better to quit now than later
  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21
    edited July 2023

    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.

    If thats the logic ur using then heres an example. How about I take the money kabam got from me but I take even MORE. Doesnt make sense whatsoever and if they dont give us bg rewards or the exact rank up resources we waisted, plus sig stones and awakening gems. Then I think we can all agree that must be absolutely stupid right. Some of yall people just disagree because its actually the truth but the glazing from yall to kabam is crazy. How they are controlling and abusing your minds is mad. Blaming the entire player base that did this its insane, and yall dont even realize. Unprofessional at its finest
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 1,697 ★★★★
    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back
  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Mamapucha said:

    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.

    If thats the logic ur using then heres an example. How about I take the money kabam got from me but I take even MORE. Doesnt make sense whatsoever and if they dont give us bg rewards or the exact rank up resources we waisted, plus sig stones and awakening gems. Then I think we can all agree that must be absolutely stupid right. Some of yall people just disagree because its actually the truth but the glazing from yall to kabam is crazy. How they are controlling and abusing your minds is mad. Blaming the entire player base that did this its insane, and yall dont even realize. Unprofessional at its finest
    You willingly gave that money to Kabam, Kabam didn't willingly give you 1250 mythic crystals, it was a mistake, big difference.
    You mean the BGs rewards and rank up resources you got using the champs you pulled from the mythic crystals? Yes, you should lose those too because you wouldn't have got them if it wasn't for the exploit.
    Nobody's sucking up to Kabam, it's just funny seeing the entitlement and lack of self awareness on this post, it reeks so much I can smell it through my phone.
  • lightningbaronlightningbaron Member Posts: 41
    Simply put, they should just do a rollback of the account, guess Kabam don't have A Time Machine.
  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21

    Mamapucha said:

    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.

    If thats the logic ur using then heres an example. How about I take the money kabam got from me but I take even MORE. Doesnt make sense whatsoever and if they dont give us bg rewards or the exact rank up resources we waisted, plus sig stones and awakening gems. Then I think we can all agree that must be absolutely stupid right. Some of yall people just disagree because its actually the truth but the glazing from yall to kabam is crazy. How they are controlling and abusing your minds is mad. Blaming the entire player base that did this its insane, and yall dont even realize. Unprofessional at its finest
    You willingly gave that money to Kabam, Kabam didn't willingly give you 1250 mythic crystals, it was a mistake, big difference.
    You mean the BGs rewards and rank up resources you got using the champs you pulled from the mythic crystals? Yes, you should lose those too because you wouldn't have got them if it wasn't for the exploit.
    Nobody's sucking up to Kabam, it's just funny seeing the entitlement and lack of self awareness on this post, it reeks so much I can smell it through my phone.
    what do you mean by “willingly”? i never said i gave them on purpose. Inventing your own stuff is crazy. And its crazy you actually think im one of those cav players that got everything from those crystals🤣🤣 I was already in gc arcane 1 and stayed there the whole season. Never went down and never went up. How am i gonna obtain rank up resources by just 2 champs i ranked up?💀 cgr and nimrod which till this day i still dont have them. Those were literally the only 2 and the ones i wasted my resources in.
  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21

    Simply put, they should just do a rollback of the account, guess Kabam don't have A Time Machine.

    sure i would accept a rollback and lose all the tier 6 resources i got with my alliance, my bg reward, my 6 star dupes and more stuff
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Mamapucha said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.

    If thats the logic ur using then heres an example. How about I take the money kabam got from me but I take even MORE. Doesnt make sense whatsoever and if they dont give us bg rewards or the exact rank up resources we waisted, plus sig stones and awakening gems. Then I think we can all agree that must be absolutely stupid right. Some of yall people just disagree because its actually the truth but the glazing from yall to kabam is crazy. How they are controlling and abusing your minds is mad. Blaming the entire player base that did this its insane, and yall dont even realize. Unprofessional at its finest
    You willingly gave that money to Kabam, Kabam didn't willingly give you 1250 mythic crystals, it was a mistake, big difference.
    You mean the BGs rewards and rank up resources you got using the champs you pulled from the mythic crystals? Yes, you should lose those too because you wouldn't have got them if it wasn't for the exploit.
    Nobody's sucking up to Kabam, it's just funny seeing the entitlement and lack of self awareness on this post, it reeks so much I can smell it through my phone.
    what do you mean by “willingly”? i never said i gave them on purpose. Inventing your own stuff is crazy. And its crazy you actually think im one of those cav players that got everything from those crystals🤣🤣 I was already in gc arcane 1 and stayed there the whole season. Never went down and never went up. How am i gonna obtain rank up resources by just 2 champs i ranked up?💀 cgr and nimrod which till this day i still dont have them. Those were literally the only 2 and the ones i wasted my resources in.
    Kabam can't take your money unless you willingly give it to them, I don't know what you're even trying to justify here.

    Oh so you're a Paragon who picked the Cav rewards from the objectives on purpose? That just makes it worse, you knew it was obviously a bug cause Cav rewards wouldn't be better than Paragon rewards and you knew Cav gave 1250 mythic crystals instead of shards, that's why you didn't take the 6* shards from the Paragon objectives. I truly do hope you lose everything you got these last two weeks so you learn a lesson you should've learned when you were a kid.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,588 ★★★★★
    Mamapucha said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
    Good you should lose everything you got and more
    bro is actually jealous hahaha. Go suck kabams feet. Glazing from you is abnormal. Would be better if you delete that comment

  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21
    ahmynuts said:

    Mamapucha said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
    Good you should lose everything you got and more
    bro is actually jealous hahaha. Go suck kabams feet. Glazing from you is abnormal. Would be better if you delete that comment

    Thats how u replied?? embarrassing
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Mamapucha said:

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
    U r the one who exploited and decided to rank up AFTER knowing it was an exploit...
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  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21
    Coppin said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
    U r the one who exploited and decided to rank up AFTER knowing it was an exploit...
    true but i mostly care about bg rewards and 7 star shards i had before
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 208 ★★
    Mamapucha said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.

    If thats the logic ur using then heres an example. How about I take the money kabam got from me but I take even MORE. Doesnt make sense whatsoever and if they dont give us bg rewards or the exact rank up resources we waisted, plus sig stones and awakening gems. Then I think we can all agree that must be absolutely stupid right. Some of yall people just disagree because its actually the truth but the glazing from yall to kabam is crazy. How they are controlling and abusing your minds is mad. Blaming the entire player base that did this its insane, and yall dont even realize. Unprofessional at its finest
    You willingly gave that money to Kabam, Kabam didn't willingly give you 1250 mythic crystals, it was a mistake, big difference.
    You mean the BGs rewards and rank up resources you got using the champs you pulled from the mythic crystals? Yes, you should lose those too because you wouldn't have got them if it wasn't for the exploit.
    Nobody's sucking up to Kabam, it's just funny seeing the entitlement and lack of self awareness on this post, it reeks so much I can smell it through my phone.
    what do you mean by “willingly”? i never said i gave them on purpose. Inventing your own stuff is crazy. And its crazy you actually think im one of those cav players that got everything from those crystals🤣🤣 I was already in gc arcane 1 and stayed there the whole season. Never went down and never went up. How am i gonna obtain rank up resources by just 2 champs i ranked up?💀 cgr and nimrod which till this day i still dont have them. Those were literally the only 2 and the ones i wasted my resources in.
    Kabam can't take your money unless you willingly give it to them, I don't know what you're even trying to justify here.

    Oh so you're a Paragon who picked the Cav rewards from the objectives on purpose? That just makes it worse, you knew it was obviously a bug cause Cav rewards wouldn't be better than Paragon rewards and you knew Cav gave 1250 mythic crystals instead of shards, that's why you didn't take the 6* shards from the Paragon objectives. I truly do hope you lose everything you got these last two weeks so you learn a lesson you should've learned when you were a kid.
    Yeh i did that. Entirely did that. And never justify I didnt. Everyone did it on purpose that did it. But kabam blaming only the player base and nit themselves is quite dumb dont you think. If you truly do hope that then you must be a jealous **** and cried since the beggining that u werent able to exploit the bug.
    I bet you are the type if your bank erroneously put money in your account you would spend it and try telling the cops well they put it there its the banks fault
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  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21

    Mamapucha said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.

    If thats the logic ur using then heres an example. How about I take the money kabam got from me but I take even MORE. Doesnt make sense whatsoever and if they dont give us bg rewards or the exact rank up resources we waisted, plus sig stones and awakening gems. Then I think we can all agree that must be absolutely stupid right. Some of yall people just disagree because its actually the truth but the glazing from yall to kabam is crazy. How they are controlling and abusing your minds is mad. Blaming the entire player base that did this its insane, and yall dont even realize. Unprofessional at its finest
    You willingly gave that money to Kabam, Kabam didn't willingly give you 1250 mythic crystals, it was a mistake, big difference.
    You mean the BGs rewards and rank up resources you got using the champs you pulled from the mythic crystals? Yes, you should lose those too because you wouldn't have got them if it wasn't for the exploit.
    Nobody's sucking up to Kabam, it's just funny seeing the entitlement and lack of self awareness on this post, it reeks so much I can smell it through my phone.
    what do you mean by “willingly”? i never said i gave them on purpose. Inventing your own stuff is crazy. And its crazy you actually think im one of those cav players that got everything from those crystals🤣🤣 I was already in gc arcane 1 and stayed there the whole season. Never went down and never went up. How am i gonna obtain rank up resources by just 2 champs i ranked up?💀 cgr and nimrod which till this day i still dont have them. Those were literally the only 2 and the ones i wasted my resources in.
    Kabam can't take your money unless you willingly give it to them, I don't know what you're even trying to justify here.

    Oh so you're a Paragon who picked the Cav rewards from the objectives on purpose? That just makes it worse, you knew it was obviously a bug cause Cav rewards wouldn't be better than Paragon rewards and you knew Cav gave 1250 mythic crystals instead of shards, that's why you didn't take the 6* shards from the Paragon objectives. I truly do hope you lose everything you got these last two weeks so you learn a lesson you should've learned when you were a kid.
    Yeh i did that. Entirely did that. And never justify I didnt. Everyone did it on purpose that did it. But kabam blaming only the player base and nit themselves is quite dumb dont you think. If you truly do hope that then you must be a jealous **** and cried since the beggining that u werent able to exploit the bug.
    I bet you are the type if your bank erroneously put money in your account you would spend it and try telling the cops well they put it there its the banks fault
    this is not the same as the bank. This is totally different cause the bank you got hard consequences never does that. Dont know why people use that example
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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,677 Guardian
    Mamapucha said:

    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.

    If thats the logic ur using then heres an example. How about I take the money kabam got from me but I take even MORE.
    I believe that is called theft, and people go to prison for that.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    edited July 2023

    Mamapucha said:

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
    Good, you deserve to lose all that. Cry harder
    Your name is Ron Swanson...
    This account was created 20 minutes ago, OP you don't need to create alt accounts to spam agrees on your posts, people don't agree with you for a reason and this just makes it even more embarrassing. Own up to what you did and move on lol.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Mamapucha said:

    Coppin said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
    U r the one who exploited and decided to rank up AFTER knowing it was an exploit...
    true but i mostly care about bg rewards and 7 star shards i had before
    U mean the bg rewards that you don't deserve because you used those champs you gained from exploiting those crystals?...
    I honestly don't think you will miss out on rewards unless your alliance kicks you out... They should be in the mail; but i dont think you deserve them either...
  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21

    Mamapucha said:

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
    Good, you deserve to lose all that. Cry harder
    Your name is Ron Swanson...
    This account was created 20 minutes ago, OP you don't need to create alt accounts, people don't agree with you for a reason and this just makes it even more embarrassing. Own up to what you did and move on lol.
    bro what??? fr??? Bro i acc swear to god i didnt made that account hahaha. Like im being desd serious.
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 208 ★★
    Mamapucha said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Compensation for what? Using an exploit? Nobody forced you to use the exploit, think about the consequences before doing something next time 🤷‍♂️
    Yes, it is Kabam's fault too I agree 100%, and for that they've received a lot of backlash in the forums, especially the day it happened. However, your account being disabled while they fix this and you losing your stuff are the consequences of your own actions.

    If thats the logic ur using then heres an example. How about I take the money kabam got from me but I take even MORE. Doesnt make sense whatsoever and if they dont give us bg rewards or the exact rank up resources we waisted, plus sig stones and awakening gems. Then I think we can all agree that must be absolutely stupid right. Some of yall people just disagree because its actually the truth but the glazing from yall to kabam is crazy. How they are controlling and abusing your minds is mad. Blaming the entire player base that did this its insane, and yall dont even realize. Unprofessional at its finest
    You willingly gave that money to Kabam, Kabam didn't willingly give you 1250 mythic crystals, it was a mistake, big difference.
    You mean the BGs rewards and rank up resources you got using the champs you pulled from the mythic crystals? Yes, you should lose those too because you wouldn't have got them if it wasn't for the exploit.
    Nobody's sucking up to Kabam, it's just funny seeing the entitlement and lack of self awareness on this post, it reeks so much I can smell it through my phone.
    what do you mean by “willingly”? i never said i gave them on purpose. Inventing your own stuff is crazy. And its crazy you actually think im one of those cav players that got everything from those crystals🤣🤣 I was already in gc arcane 1 and stayed there the whole season. Never went down and never went up. How am i gonna obtain rank up resources by just 2 champs i ranked up?💀 cgr and nimrod which till this day i still dont have them. Those were literally the only 2 and the ones i wasted my resources in.
    Kabam can't take your money unless you willingly give it to them, I don't know what you're even trying to justify here.

    Oh so you're a Paragon who picked the Cav rewards from the objectives on purpose? That just makes it worse, you knew it was obviously a bug cause Cav rewards wouldn't be better than Paragon rewards and you knew Cav gave 1250 mythic crystals instead of shards, that's why you didn't take the 6* shards from the Paragon objectives. I truly do hope you lose everything you got these last two weeks so you learn a lesson you should've learned when you were a kid.
    Yeh i did that. Entirely did that. And never justify I didnt. Everyone did it on purpose that did it. But kabam blaming only the player base and nit themselves is quite dumb dont you think. If you truly do hope that then you must be a jealous **** and cried since the beggining that u werent able to exploit the bug.
    I bet you are the type if your bank erroneously put money in your account you would spend it and try telling the cops well they put it there its the banks fault
    this is not the same as the bank. This is totally different cause the bank you got hard consequences never does that. Dont know why people use that example
    I see so cause kabam hadn't really come down hard on exploits other then the mutant treasure island that's why you did it cause you didn't think they would really do anything that explains alot
  • MamapuchaMamapucha Member Posts: 21
    Coppin said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Coppin said:

    Mamapucha said:

    Your account will be restored to before the EXPLOIT, you will have your materials back

    That is not true. And if that does happens I will lost a rank 5 hulking, bg rewards, an absorbing man i got and took him to r4, sig stones, champs i got from normal 6 star champs i grinded for and duping those giving me 7 star shards. Your comment is nonsense
    U r the one who exploited and decided to rank up AFTER knowing it was an exploit...
    true but i mostly care about bg rewards and 7 star shards i had before
    U mean the bg rewards that you don't deserve because you used those champs you gained from exploiting those crystals?...
    I honestly don't think you will miss out on rewards unless your alliance kicks you out... They should be in the mail; but i dont think you deserve them either...
    Quite simple. I was already in gc arcane 1. Never go up nor down. I stayed there before the exploit. Easy to comprehend
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